Lou Getting Concerned About Hitters

[Soul]

Not that I really disagree with you guys, but didn't we say all last year how Derrek Lee was gonna get his power stroke going and we didn't need to worry about him, but then he never really did? I know, he was coming off an injury and all, but still....

 

Are you referencing Spring Training or during the season? I don't remember anybody complaining about the power during Spring Training, and then yes, most of the first half people were waiting for him to get the power stroke going. Your use of never is incorrect as his power returned in the second half of the year.

 

It would be nice if we didn't have to wait until July for it to happen this year. If that means DLee plays a little more in the Spring, then so be it.

[jersey cubs fan]

Hasn't anyone picked up on the fact that what Lou says and what Lou does are two very different things?

 

Yeah, I have mixed feelings on this. If he follows through on the threat, it's stupid. If he's really upset that guys aren't hitting well, it's stupid. But if these are just words, and lighting fires under asses a bit, fine by me. It's a nice change of pace to see a Cubs manager actually hold veterans to some sort of standard and not use all their critical words on the kids.

[jersey cubs fan]

While Lee got his power back in the second half, I think it's still fair to say it didn't return all the way to where it was at its peak. Slugging a high number for a half a season is not the same as repeating what you did in your carer year. It's still very much in doubt how much power Lee will have going forward. It's almost certainly not going to compare to 2005.

[hardcorecubfan]

The tenor of this thread sounds like the honey moon is over for you Lou. Start ducking

[David]

While Lee got his power back in the second half, I think it's still fair to say it didn't return all the way to where it was at its peak. Slugging a high number for a half a season is not the same as repeating what you did in your carer year. It's still very much in doubt how much power Lee will have going forward. It's almost certainly not going to compare to 2005.

 

 

Post AS break 2007 he hit one every 16.13 AB's. That would come out to 37 HR in 600 AB's (34 in 550 AB's).

 

That seems about right and about the best we could have expected, even if he hadn't injured his wrist (despite his monster 2005).

 

We'll see if he continues at the pace he was at after the break. There is reason to believe he will.

[Soul]

While Lee got his power back in the second half, I think it's still fair to say it didn't return all the way to where it was at its peak. Slugging a high number for a half a season is not the same as repeating what you did in your carer year. It's still very much in doubt how much power Lee will have going forward. It's almost certainly not going to compare to 2005.

 

 

Post AS break 2007 he hit one every 16.13 AB's. That would come out to 37 HR in 600 AB's (34 in 550 AB's).

 

That seems about right and about the best we could have expected, even if he hadn't injured his wrist (despite his monster 2005).

 

We'll see if he continues at the pace he was at after the break. There is reason to believe he will.

 

These numbers cast some doubt:

 

.125/.167/.267

 

And I've got a feeling those right there comprise a good portion of what Lou is talking about. Lee needs to start showing he's prepared to start the season, and so far he hasn't. At all.

[David]

While Lee got his power back in the second half, I think it's still fair to say it didn't return all the way to where it was at its peak. Slugging a high number for a half a season is not the same as repeating what you did in your carer year. It's still very much in doubt how much power Lee will have going forward. It's almost certainly not going to compare to 2005.

 

 

Post AS break 2007 he hit one every 16.13 AB's. That would come out to 37 HR in 600 AB's (34 in 550 AB's).

 

That seems about right and about the best we could have expected, even if he hadn't injured his wrist (despite his monster 2005).

 

We'll see if he continues at the pace he was at after the break. There is reason to believe he will.

 

These numbers cast some doubt:

 

.125/.167/.267

 

And I've got a feeling those right there comprise a good portion of what Lou is talking about. Lee needs to start showing he's prepared to start the season, and so far he hasn't. At all.

 

 

While those numbers mean absolutely nothing to me, I wasn't really arguing or commenting on anything with regard to his ST performance this year.

[Sammy Sofa]

Lee's numbers really terrify me.

 

I also think Ichiro is only going to have a grand total of 4 hits all season.

 

And man, remember Nomar's titanic 2005 as a Cub? I don't think that season will ever be duplicated. And to think, it was all foreshadowed in his amazing ST performance! Jeepers!

[David]

Lee's numbers really terrify me.

 

I also think Ichiro is only going to have a grand total of 4 hits all season.

 

And man, remember Nomar's titanic 2005 as a Cub? I don't think that season will ever be duplicated. And to think, it was all foreshadowed in his amazing ST performance! Jeepers!

 

On the plus side, though, 'Lix is going to achieve Pujols like superstardom this year.

[Sammy Sofa]

Lee's numbers really terrify me.

 

I also think Ichiro is only going to have a grand total of 4 hits all season.

 

And man, remember Nomar's titanic 2005 as a Cub? I don't think that season will ever be duplicated. And to think, it was all foreshadowed in his amazing ST performance! Jeepers!

 

On the plus side, though, 'Lix is going to achieve Pujols like superstardom this year.

 

And Ward is going to be the greatest hitter of all time.

[David]

There's your answer.

 

Bench Lee. Start Ward. Problem solved.

[javy knows my name]

If Lou is really concerned about this, I'm really concerned about Lou.

[bring stone back]

Lee's numbers really terrify me.

 

I also think Ichiro is only going to have a grand total of 4 hits all season.

 

And man, remember Nomar's titanic 2005 as a Cub? I don't think that season will ever be duplicated. And to think, it was all foreshadowed in his amazing ST performance! Jeepers!

 

I see your point but I don't think I've ever heard of a player coming out of Spring Training say "I feel too good - too locked in at the plate. I just had too many good at bats this Spring."

 

If anything I'd prefer the regulars get enough/too many at bats in the Spring. Especially considering the Cubs are a team with no real young player looking to crack the lineup or any real evaluation needing to be done right now as far as position players. We all know what we have this year, the every day lineup and most of the bench. Let's give them the at bats and ready to go.

[bring stone back]

If Lou is really concerned about this, I'm really concerned about Lou.

 

I hope he's concerned about this. It's his job to be and to get the team ready to play come Opening Day.

[Soul]

If Lou is really concerned about this, I'm really concerned about Lou.

 

I hope he's concerned about this. It's his job to be and to get the team ready to play come Opening Day.

 

That's exactly right.

[javy knows my name]

If Lou is really concerned about this, I'm really concerned about Lou.

 

I hope he's concerned about this. It's his job to be and to get the team ready to play come Opening Day.

Derrek Lee will hit, and likely as soon as he needs to. Risking overextending anyone, especially him, is the opposite of smart.

[Soul]

If Lou is really concerned about this, I'm really concerned about Lou.

 

I hope he's concerned about this. It's his job to be and to get the team ready to play come Opening Day.

Derrek Lee will hit, and likely as soon as he needs to. Risking overextending anyone, especially him, is the opposite of smart.

 

This whole idea of "overextending" someone is a construct of this thread and has nothing to do with anything.

[jersey cubs fan]

If Lou is really concerned about this, I'm really concerned about Lou.

 

I hope he's concerned about this. It's his job to be and to get the team ready to play come Opening Day.

Derrek Lee will hit, and likely as soon as he needs to. Risking overextending anyone, especially him, is the opposite of smart.

 

This whole idea of "overextending" someone is a construct of this thread and has nothing to do with anything.

 

Are you suggesting it's impossible to use a guy too much in the spring? That there is no need for off days or rest, or easing into the everyday grind of the season?

[bring stone back]

If Lou is really concerned about this, I'm really concerned about Lou.

 

I hope he's concerned about this. It's his job to be and to get the team ready to play come Opening Day.

Derrek Lee will hit, and likely as soon as he needs to. Risking overextending anyone, especially him, is the opposite of smart.

 

These guys are doing repetitive hitting drills and/or taking batting practice every day. Do you really think an additional 3-4 at bats in a Spring game is overextending him? I certainly don't. Especially with a guy like Lee who is used to playing 150 games a year.

 

It's not quite as simple to say he'll start to hit when he "needs to."

[jersey cubs fan]

If Lou is really concerned about this, I'm really concerned about Lou.

 

I hope he's concerned about this. It's his job to be and to get the team ready to play come Opening Day.

Derrek Lee will hit, and likely as soon as he needs to. Risking overextending anyone, especially him, is the opposite of smart.

 

These guys are doing repetitive hitting drills and/or taking batting practice every day. Do you really think an additional 3-4 at bats in a Spring game is overextending him? I certainly don't. Especially with a guy like Lee who is used to playing 150 games a year.

 

It's not quite as simple to say he'll start to hit when he "needs to."

 

Nobody is saying anything about one extra game. The point is, spring training results are meaningless, and adding work to try and fix "bad results" is foolish. Making any sort of decisions based on spring training results is stupid.

[Soul]

If Lou is really concerned about this, I'm really concerned about Lou.

 

I hope he's concerned about this. It's his job to be and to get the team ready to play come Opening Day.

Derrek Lee will hit, and likely as soon as he needs to. Risking overextending anyone, especially him, is the opposite of smart.

 

This whole idea of "overextending" someone is a construct of this thread and has nothing to do with anything.

 

Are you suggesting it's impossible to use a guy too much in the spring? That there is no need for off days or rest, or easing into the everyday grind of the season?

 

Of course not. But I don't think Lou is saying he's going to grind anyone into the ground. People here are freaking out, jumping to that conclusion.

[CarolinaCubFan]

First off, I'll say I don't expect Lee to match his 2005 stats. I also understand a wrist injury takes time to heal. My heart went out to Lee and his family while dealing with the illness of his daughter.

 

This is a new season, it's time for Lee to get his head in the game. If it means Lou putting a fire under his arse, fine by me. Lou knows how to manage a ball club. A spark like this might be just what Lee needs, and Lou is happy to oblige. Get on him Lou!

[jersey cubs fan]

Of course not. But I don't think Lou is saying he's going to grind anyone into the ground. People here are freaking out, jumping to that conclusion.

 

I think you are grossly mischaracterizing people's reactions to what Lou said.

[Sammy Sofa]

First off, I'll say I don't expect Lee to match his 2005 stats. I also understand a wrist injury takes time to heal. My heart went out to Lee and his family while dealing with the illness of his daughter.

 

This is a new season, it's time for Lee to get his head in the game. If it means Lou putting a fire under his arse, fine by me. Lou knows how to manage a ball club. A spark like this might be just what Lee needs, and Lou is happy to oblige. Get on him Lou!

 

IT'S MARCH 12TH.

[Soul]

If Lou is really concerned about this, I'm really concerned about Lou.

 

I hope he's concerned about this. It's his job to be and to get the team ready to play come Opening Day.

Derrek Lee will hit, and likely as soon as he needs to. Risking overextending anyone, especially him, is the opposite of smart.

 

These guys are doing repetitive hitting drills and/or taking batting practice every day. Do you really think an additional 3-4 at bats in a Spring game is overextending him? I certainly don't. Especially with a guy like Lee who is used to playing 150 games a year.

 

It's not quite as simple to say he'll start to hit when he "needs to."

 

Nobody is saying anything about one extra game. The point is, spring training results are meaningless, and adding work to try and fix "bad results" is foolish. Making any sort of decisions based on spring training results is stupid.

 

This is silly. Let's just not have Spring Training then, by your logic it should make no difference.