What would B.Roberts and Fukudome do to help the offense?

[Mephistopheles]

I feel a little bit let down, actually.

 

sorry, im trying not to be the oakland a's in the playoffs, but its hard.

[sneakypower]

I feel a little bit let down, actually.

 

sorry, im trying not to be the oakland a's in the playoffs, but its hard.

 

Indulge me.

 

We like Ronny, despite his extensive failures at the major league level, because he's fared pretty well at the AAA level, but hate Pie, with no reasonable MLB sample to draw from, and who obliterated AAA pitching?

 

Khalil Greene is alright I guess, he'd be worth pursuing as a speculative transaction in case his road splits are more indicative of what he'd provide to the team, but I'm not going to trade my best prospect, at worst a GG CF in the making, to find out. Prior- sure, I'll give it a try.

[Mephistopheles]

"gg cf" guys grow on trees you know.

 

 

so youre obsessed over pie because hes a kerry robinson at worst

 

oh man that is excellent

[sneakypower]

"gg cf" guys grow on trees you know.

 

 

so youre obsessed over pie because hes a kerry robinson at worst

 

oh man that is excellent

 

Kerry Robinson couldn't even slug .400 in AAA at age 26.

[Geech]

According to BPs translations, Felix Pie put up a .287 EqA this season in Triple A. The previous two seasons it was .273 and .261.

[Mephistopheles]

"gg cf" guys grow on trees you know.

 

 

so youre obsessed over pie because hes a kerry robinson at worst

 

oh man that is excellent

 

Kerry Robinson couldn't even slug .400 in AAA at age 26.

 

irrelevant to your initial point son

[sneakypower]

"gg cf" guys grow on trees you know.

 

 

so youre obsessed over pie because hes a kerry robinson at worst

 

oh man that is excellent

 

Kerry Robinson couldn't even slug .400 in AAA at age 26.

 

irrelevant to your initial point son

 

One can also say that Maybin is a Kerry Robinson at worst, I guess, and he's getting traded for far better return than Greene. You didn't really make much of an argument.

 

Son? Give me a break.

[Mephistopheles]

Comparing Cameron Maybin to Felix Pie is wrong.

 

 

Felix Pie....sucks....Cameron Maybin...doesn't. Theyre not even in the same universe.

[cbbryan]

Comparing Cameron Maybin to Felix Pie is wrong.

 

 

Felix Pie....sucks....Cameron Maybin...doesn't. Theyre not even in the same universe.

 

Pie kicked Meph's dog. He's still got hard feelings, so just leave it alone!

 

FWI, Maybin has a bigger upside then Pie. Pie does have the ability to be above average.

[sneakypower]

Comparing Cameron Maybin to Felix Pie is wrong.

 

 

Felix Pie....sucks....Cameron Maybin...doesn't. Theyre not even in the same universe.

 

I'd love to hear a reason for this.

 

Nearly identical numbers at the same stages of the minors, similarly outlandish comparisons from scouts, comparable skill-sets.

[Mephistopheles]

not really. theyve got a few key differences in their skillsets.

 

mainly maybin is good and pie is not

[David]

Meph's seemingly irrational distaste for Pie considering Pie's numbers seems really out of character. I'm surprised there's really no argument being made.

 

His numbers appear to say he doesn't suck, but whatever.

[sneakypower]

not really. theyve got a few key differences in their skillsets.

 

mainly maybin is good and pie is not

 

Nice reasoning. I guess this argument is over.

[Mephistopheles]

"appear" just like greene "appears" to suck

 

 

i mean to back up the greene for pie trade i dont even need to mention pie. you guys know that.. cro magnon doesnt

[Mephistopheles]

not really. theyve got a few key differences in their skillsets.

 

mainly maybin is good and pie is not

 

Nice reasoning. I guess this argument is over.

 

im pretty sure its the perfect logical connection. if you assert that a guy sucks and your reasoning for saying he sucks is that he sucks and he in fact does suck, then it's not circular reasoning. it's simply stating the facts.

[David]

Definitely. It's like saying, "Hey, that car is black."

 

"Why?"

 

"Because it's black."

[sneakypower]

not really. theyve got a few key differences in their skillsets.

 

mainly maybin is good and pie is not

 

Nice reasoning. I guess this argument is over.

 

im pretty sure its the perfect logical connection. if you assert that a guy sucks and your reasoning for saying he sucks is that he sucks and he in fact does suck, then it's not circular reasoning. it's simply stating the facts.

 

Sickels ranked Pie 22nd in his preseason prospect rankings, and Maybin 16th.

 

Not exactly a different universe.

 

Perhaps he's not privy to the "facts".

Edited December 7, 2007 by sneakypower

[salukifudd]

"This suit is black, not."

[cbbryan]

Meph's seemingly irrational distaste for Pie considering Pie's numbers seems really out of character. I'm surprised there's really no argument being made.

 

His numbers appear to say he doesn't suck, but whatever.

 

There is apparently no rational with Meph as it pertains to Pie. The guy uses park adjustment, Fly ball ratios, etc. to validate trading for a player like Greene. (Which I don't have a problem with trying to acquire Greene)

 

But to look at Pie's career stats and skill set is too much to ask. I just hope the Cubs stand by their backing of Pie as the starting CF. He'll answer all the critics if he's given the opportunity to play everyday.

 

Sure he can improve on a few things, but he's not going to improve by pinch hitting/running.

[Mizzou]

Why are you so down on Pie? I'm not that high on him at all, but it sounds like you think he'll be a complete bust. Why?

[Mephistopheles]

not really. theyve got a few key differences in their skillsets.

 

mainly maybin is good and pie is not

 

Nice reasoning. I guess this argument is over.

 

im pretty sure its the perfect logical connection. if you assert that a guy sucks and your reasoning for saying he sucks is that he sucks and he in fact does suck, then it's not circular reasoning. it's simply stating the facts.

 

Sickels ranked Pie 22nd in his preseason prospect rankings, and Maybin 16th.

 

Not exactly a different universe.

 

Perhaps he's not privy to the "facts".

 

oooooh SICKELS OMG I AM CONVINCED NOW

 

he pulled the sickels card out on me. lol.

[sneakypower]

not really. theyve got a few key differences in their skillsets.

 

mainly maybin is good and pie is not

 

Nice reasoning. I guess this argument is over.

 

im pretty sure its the perfect logical connection. if you assert that a guy sucks and your reasoning for saying he sucks is that he sucks and he in fact does suck, then it's not circular reasoning. it's simply stating the facts.

 

Sickels ranked Pie 22nd in his preseason prospect rankings, and Maybin 16th.

 

Not exactly a different universe.

 

Perhaps he's not privy to the "facts".

 

oooooh SICKELS OMG I AM CONVINCED NOW

 

he pulled the sickels card out on me. lol.

 

Sickels gives reasons for his opinions.

 

Are you always excessively obnoxious?

[David]

Yes, he is. It's his "thing."

[Mephistopheles]

not really. theyve got a few key differences in their skillsets.

 

mainly maybin is good and pie is not

 

Nice reasoning. I guess this argument is over.

 

im pretty sure its the perfect logical connection. if you assert that a guy sucks and your reasoning for saying he sucks is that he sucks and he in fact does suck, then it's not circular reasoning. it's simply stating the facts.

 

Sickels ranked Pie 22nd in his preseason prospect rankings, and Maybin 16th.

 

Not exactly a different universe.

 

Perhaps he's not privy to the "facts".

 

oooooh SICKELS OMG I AM CONVINCED NOW

 

he pulled the sickels card out on me. lol.

 

Sickels gives reasons for his opinions.

 

Are you always excessively obnoxious?

 

and i give reasons for my opinions. its not as if i put all the cubs players in a hat, choose one and decide that i hate that guy. im a cubs fan im not out to get my own teams' players. i have rational reasons for not being that high on Felix Pie and i have explained them dozens of times on this board, not only that, in this case I do not even need to bother explaining my distaste for bitter pie because it is irrelevant to the point of the discussion: your misguided reluctance to trade pie for greene

[SouthSideRyan]

Felix Pie:Meph::Mark Prior:Cuse