Trade for Cabrera?

[NoDak]

I don't know if I would make this kind of deal. The Marlins are masters of producing major talent and then trading them just as they become expensive for somewhat less talented players that will be MUCH less expensive. We'll be acquiring Cabrera about the time he will get VERY expensive to retain. Besides, the Marlins are going to want significant talent for him and I am not willing to give up 3 average players for 1 really good player (because then I have to find replacements for those that I gave up).

 

I personally believe we will go further with a team of average to somewhat above average players (OPS+/ERA+ 100-115) than a couple of really good players and then fill-ins for the rest. A line-up with fewer black holes, even at the cost of fewer great players.

[jersey cubs fan]

I don't know if I would make this kind of deal. The Marlins are masters of producing major talent and then trading them just as they become expensive for somewhat less talented players that will be MUCH less expensive. We'll be acquiring Cabrera about the time he will get VERY expensive to retain. Besides, the Marlins are going to want significant talent for him and I am not willing to give up 3 average players for 1 really good player (because then I have to find replacements for those that I gave up).

 

I personally believe we will go further with a team of average to somewhat above average players (OPS+/ERA+ 100-115) than a couple of really good players and then fill-ins for the rest. A line-up with fewer black holes, even at the cost of fewer great players.

 

He'll be expensive because he's great. He'd easily be the Cubs best player. The Cubs don't have a team of average to above average players, they've got too many crap players. They already have black holes, at SS, possibly in CF and 2B (depending on what crazy stuff Hendry does) and maybe even RF if they "solve" that problem by going for average.

 

This team isn't going to win crap striving for average. They need to be great. The goal should be great. The target should be 95+ wins, and you get to that level by having great players. Cabrera is great. Ramirez and Lee are solid, but neither is a superstar. Soriano is a highly flawed overpaid player. Cabrera is a pre-prime stud who will in all likelihood just get better. He is exactly what this team needs. What they don't need are a bunch more average players playing average baseball in hopes of another 85 win season that may or may not get you into the postseason.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

The bottom line is that the Cubs could make their entire minor league system available to the Marlins, and it still wouldn't be enough to get Cabrera.

[rawaction]

The bottom line is that the Cubs could make their entire minor league system available to the Marlins, and it still wouldn't be enough to get Cabrera.

 

Yeah, that's not true.

[USSoccer]

I personally believe we will go further with a team of average to somewhat above average players (OPS+/ERA+ 100-115) than a couple of really good players and then fill-ins for the rest. A line-up with fewer black holes, even at the cost of fewer great players.

 

Wow, that's the opposite of true.

 

Unless you get lucky at the right time, it takes great players for a team to be great.

[anabiono]

I personally believe we will go further with a team of average to somewhat above average players (OPS+/ERA+ 100-115) than a couple of really good players and then fill-ins for the rest. A line-up with fewer black holes, even at the cost of fewer great players.

 

Wow, that's the opposite of true.

 

Unless you get lucky at the right time, it takes great players for a team to be great.

 

yes, correct, see the red sox for more proof

[jersey cubs fan]

The bottom line is that the Cubs could make their entire minor league system available to the Marlins, and it still wouldn't be enough to get Cabrera.

 

Yeah, that's not true.

 

It's been said the Cubs don't have the pieces to compete with the offers of other teams. And they may be true, if every team was willing to offer everybody they have.

 

But teams aren't often willing to trade their best young chips. NY is talking about getting Johan without giving up any of their big guys. Most teams with the bluest of blue chips try as hard as they can to hold onto them, and deal their second tier of prospects. The Cubs can probably compete with any package teams are actually willing to give up. The question is whether the Cubs want to compete.

 

Going by their long standing strategy of just doing enough to hope to contend within the division, the Cubs are doubtful to throw their hat into the ring on such a player. They've traded for guys that other teams were trying to dump for payroll considerations, but they weren't competing with anybody for the likes of Ramirez and Lee. It's all about whether the Cubs have the balls to go big. They can put a package together that will get the job done, but odds are they don't have any interest in doing so.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

The bottom line is that the Cubs could make their entire minor league system available to the Marlins, and it still wouldn't be enough to get Cabrera.

 

Yeah, that's not true.

 

Of course it is.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

According to the Miami Herald, the Angels are actively pursuing Cabrera. The main hold-up appears to be the inclusion of Adenhart in the deal.

 

Along with Willits, who would plug one need for the Marlins -- a center fielder -- the Angels also would likely give up second baseman Howie Kendrick and catcher Jeff Mathis. A source said the biggest sticking point to completing a deal at this point is whether the Angels also would throw in a fourth player: pitching prospect Nick Adenhart.

 

Link.

[CuseCubFan69]

According to the Miami Herald, the Angels are actively pursuing Cabrera. The main hold-up appears to be the inclusion of Adenhart in the deal.

 

Along with Willits, who would plug one need for the Marlins -- a center fielder -- the Angels also would likely give up second baseman Howie Kendrick and catcher Jeff Mathis. A source said the biggest sticking point to completing a deal at this point is whether the Angels also would throw in a fourth player: pitching prospect Nick Adenhart.

 

Link.

 

I'm surprised they don't want Wood for third to replace Miggy.

[nilodnayr]

According to the Miami Herald, the Angels are actively pursuing Cabrera. The main hold-up appears to be the inclusion of Adenhart in the deal.

 

Along with Willits, who would plug one need for the Marlins -- a center fielder -- the Angels also would likely give up second baseman Howie Kendrick and catcher Jeff Mathis. A source said the biggest sticking point to completing a deal at this point is whether the Angels also would throw in a fourth player: pitching prospect Nick Adenhart.

 

Link.

 

I'm surprised they don't want Wood for third to replace Miggy.

 

Wood kinda sucks.