9/15 Game 2: Cubs (Marshall) @ Cards (Piniero) 7:10 CDT CSN

[Fred Hornkohl]

Taguchi grounded an IF single to second base , Spiezio to third

[Anomalied]

Come on... enough of these cheap hits.

[BigSlick]

If we win and MIL wins, what do the standings look like?

 

The exact same as ... right now?

 

:roll:

 

2.0?

 

Well I mean, its an odd question. Nothing would change for either of the top teams, I guess the Cardinals would be 8 back.

[Guest]

That made it a LOT easier to take Quade's ineptitude.

 

 

not if they lose by a run. terrible coaching by quade. just terrible.

 

If there are runners at first and third, chances are Pinero throws a different pitch to Soriano. It sucks that Quade sent him, but I'm happy with how things worked out.

 

 

very dubious argument.

[Schwarber Fan]

If we win and MIL wins, what do the standings look like?

 

The exact same as ... right now?

 

:roll:

 

2.0?

 

Well I mean, its an odd question. Nothing would change for either of the top teams, I guess the Cardinals would be 8 back.

 

I didn't know the current numbers

[BigSlick]

That made it a LOT easier to take Quade's ineptitude.

 

 

not if they lose by a run. terrible coaching by quade. just terrible.

 

If there are runners at first and third, chances are Pinero throws a different pitch to Soriano. It sucks that Quade sent him, but I'm happy with how things worked out.

 

 

very dubious argument.

 

No, I think its a pretty safe argument. Things change in a hurry.

[inari]

That made it a LOT easier to take Quade's ineptitude.

 

 

not if they lose by a run. terrible coaching by quade. just terrible.

 

If there are runners at first and third, chances are Pinero throws a different pitch to Soriano. It sucks that Quade sent him, but I'm happy with how things worked out.

 

 

very dubious argument.

 

Far less dubious than assuming the same sequence of events would have transpired, IMO.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Thanks DeRosa since Floyd can't run.

[Anomalied]

That Bud Light vendor is getting annoying.

[Careless]

jebus, cliff, don't scare me like that

[Fred Hornkohl]

BOTTOM OF THE SECOND INNING

 

Spiezio grounded an IF single to third base

Piniero sacrificed, 3-4, Spiezio to second

Cairo struck out swinging

Taguchi grounded an IF single to second base , Spiezio to third

Ryan popped out to shallow right field

 

0 runs 2 hits 0 errors 2 men left on base

 

                1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9              R  H  E
CUBS            1 2                            3  6  0
St. Louis       0 0                            0  4  0

 

Home runs:

CUBS: Soriano (27)

St. Louis: none

 

CUBS           IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Marshall      2.0  4  0  0  1  2  0  41

 

St. Louis      IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Piniero       2.0  6  3  3  1  1  1  39

[Lockes Eye Scar]

That made it a LOT easier to take Quade's ineptitude.

 

 

not if they lose by a run. terrible coaching by quade. just terrible.

 

If there are runners at first and third, chances are Pinero throws a different pitch to Soriano. It sucks that Quade sent him, but I'm happy with how things worked out.

 

 

very dubious argument.

 

It's not dubious at all. If you change something in the past, the future doesn't stay the same.

[C.C.]

They are playing so lose now...

[Fred Hornkohl]

                  CUBS       St. Louis
P/PA              3.90            3.73

[sweetpeteman]

Scott Spiezio's mlb page says he pitched an inning this year, anyone know when this was?

 

http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/news/wrap.jsp?ymd=20070615&content_id=2028120&vkey=wrapup2005&fext=.jsp&team=away&c_id=stl

[XZero771679666304]

That made it a LOT easier to take Quade's ineptitude.

 

 

not if they lose by a run. terrible coaching by quade. just terrible.

 

If there are runners at first and third, chances are Pinero throws a different pitch to Soriano. It sucks that Quade sent him, but I'm happy with how things worked out.

 

 

very dubious argument.

 

No, I think its a pretty safe argument. Things change in a hurry.

 

It's probably true, but you can't waste your time analyzing things that way. The permutations for any situation would be virtually limitless.

[Guest]

That made it a LOT easier to take Quade's ineptitude.

 

 

not if they lose by a run. terrible coaching by quade. just terrible.

 

If there are runners at first and third, chances are Pinero throws a different pitch to Soriano. It sucks that Quade sent him, but I'm happy with how things worked out.

 

 

very dubious argument.

 

It's not dubious at all. If you change something in the past, the future doesn't stay the same.

 

very likely soriano still hits a homerun there. more likely than not in my opinion. the idea that pineiro pitches him differently is very dubious. why would he? What would he do differently? he made a mistake and he likely would have with theriot on third as well.

[Roast]

yay lee.

[Fred Hornkohl]

D Lee doubled to right center field

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Lee looked very gimpy there.

[Lockes Eye Scar]

Haven't you ever seen groundhog day? :P

[Careless]

That made it a LOT easier to take Quade's ineptitude.

 

 

not if they lose by a run. terrible coaching by quade. just terrible.

 

If there are runners at first and third, chances are Pinero throws a different pitch to Soriano. It sucks that Quade sent him, but I'm happy with how things worked out.

 

 

very dubious argument.

 

It's not dubious at all. If you change something in the past, the future doesn't stay the same.

 

very likely soriano still hits a homerun there. more likely than not in my opinion. the idea that pineiro pitches him differently is very dubious. why would he? What would he do differently? he made a mistake and he likely would have with theriot on third as well.

I find the idea that you will produce the same result every time (edit: or even close to every time, or close to a majority) the same pitcher throws the same pitches to you absurd.

[Buford T Justice]

Cardinals announcer: "Ramirez is only 3 for 5 in the series."

 

That sounds good to me no?

[Schwarber Fan]

Lee looked very gimpy there.

 

As long as he can still hit/field and he's not bothered that much by it...

 

That being said, starting Ward every now and then isn't a bad thing.

[Guest]

That made it a LOT easier to take Quade's ineptitude.

 

 

not if they lose by a run. terrible coaching by quade. just terrible.

 

If there are runners at first and third, chances are Pinero throws a different pitch to Soriano. It sucks that Quade sent him, but I'm happy with how things worked out.

 

 

very dubious argument.

 

It's not dubious at all. If you change something in the past, the future doesn't stay the same.

 

very likely soriano still hits a homerun there. more likely than not in my opinion. the idea that pineiro pitches him differently is very dubious. why would he? What would he do differently? he made a mistake and he likely would have with theriot on third as well.

I find the idea that you will produce the same result every time the same pitcher throws the same pitches to you absurd.

 

 

no one is saying that. anyway, terrible coaching by quade no matter how you slice it.

 

lee looks likes his knees hurt.