Cubs' Defensive Zone Ratings

[JGalt73]

The Hardball Times (via Baseball Info Solutions) will start running 2007 to date leaders on defense soon. The league leaders (and trailers) are here.

 

The Cubs' zone rating data so far for '07 (in runs prevented):

 

Daryle Ward 1B 2

Mark DeRosa 1B -1

Derrek Lee 1B -5

 

Mark DeRosa 2B 1

Mike Fontenot 2B 0

Ronny Cedeno 2B 0

Ryan S Theriot 2B -1

 

Mark DeRosa 3B 0

Ryan S Theriot 3B 0

Aramis Ramirez 3B -4

 

Ronny Cedeno SS 2

Cesar Izturis SS 0

Ryan S Theriot SS -1

 

Matt Murton LF 3

Cliff Floyd LF 1

Alfonso Soriano LF 1

Ryan S Theriot LF 0

Jacque Jones LF -1

 

Angel Pagan CF 1

Felix Pie CF 0

Jacque Jones CF 0

Matt Murton CF -1

Alfonso Soriano CF -1

 

Jacque Jones RF 3

Angel Pagan RF 2

Mark DeRosa RF 1

Ryan S Theriot RF -1

Matt Murton RF -2

Cliff Floyd RF -3

[Soriano12]

Cesar Izturis SS 0

 

This can't be right....HE DRIVES IN RUNS WITH HIS GLOVE DAMNIT!

[C.C.]

Cesar Izturis SS 0

 

This can't be right....HE DRIVES IN RUNS WITH HIS GLOVE DAMNIT!

 

Isn't this joke getting old yet?

[Soriano12]

It's not a joke.. :twisted:

 

 

Anyways I wipe my arse with any list that doesn't have D. Lee as a top defensive firstbaseman. That list..that is the joke.

[CubColtPacer]

I love how Murton gets a -1 rating in CF even though he only played there one inning, and didn't have a misplay (there was a bloop that no CF could have caught and Pujols's homer that was long gone).

Also, I watched the Daryle Ward at first base games, and there is no way that he was better than Derrek Lee has been at first this year.

 

I don't trust most of the other rankings either, but I think those are the only two that are blatantly wrong.

[Moonlight Graham]

Cesar Izturis SS 0

 

This can't be right....HE DRIVES IN RUNS WITH HIS GLOVE DAMNIT!

 

Isn't this joke getting old yet?

 

no

[Chocolate Milk]

Looks like we're basically average defensively as a team.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Some very large discrepancies with the UZR stuff that was released not too long ago.

 

EDIT: I wouldn't worry about 1B too much, those ratings are going to be pretty worthless.

[treebird]

stuff like this that isn't on a per inning basis makes my brain hurt

[Ding Dong Johnson]

yay for useless numbers!

[jyoung55]

Some very large discrepancies with the UZR stuff that was released not too long ago.

 

EDIT: I wouldn't worry about 1B too much, those ratings are going to be pretty worthless.

 

Did a Cardinals fan or The Sporting News come up with these ratings? Because being down here I get Cardinals games and I have watched him and I am sorry but any defensive rating that has him on top is ridiculous.

[Rob]

Some very large discrepancies with the UZR stuff that was released not too long ago.

 

EDIT: I wouldn't worry about 1B too much, those ratings are going to be pretty worthless.

 

Did a Cardinals fan or The Sporting News come up with these ratings? Because being down here I get Cardinals games and I have watched him and I am sorry but any defensive rating that has him on top is ridiculous.

 

The entire premise is measuring range... of which DLee doesn't have all that much. That doesn't make him a below average first baseman, though... he is probably the best in the game at receiving throws from the other infielders... which is a much larger part of 1B defense than his range.

 

That's why you don't need to worry about 1B too much.

[Amazing_Grace]

So Izturis isn't really that great at SS and he's barely even better than Theriot.

 

I guess we're all pretty stunned at that revelation.

[soccer10k]

Cesar Izturis SS 0

 

This can't be right....HE DRIVES IN RUNS WITH HIS GLOVE DAMNIT!

 

Isn't this joke getting old yet?

 

Definitely not.