cuban oh cuban

[anabiono]

bummer...apparently cuban is trying to develop an alternate football league to compete with the NFL...

 

i guess he isn't in the running anymore

 

plus...this makes him a bit dumb...

 

you guys remember the XFL?

 

oh...who who who will buy the cubs, who who, who who?

[seanimal]

bummer...apparently cuban is trying to develop an alternate football league to compete with the NFL...

 

i guess he isn't in the running anymore

 

plus...this makes him a bit dumb...

 

you guys remember the XFL?

 

oh...who who who will buy the cubs, who who, who who?

 

Knowing our luck, probably Rupert Murdoch

[FergieJ31]

bummer...apparently cuban is trying to develop an alternate football league to compete with the NFL...

 

i guess he isn't in the running anymore

 

plus...this makes him a bit dumb...

 

you guys remember the XFL?

 

Not to mention the USFL in the 80's. They filed and actually won an antitrust lawsuit against the NFL, but were awarded $3 in damages (that's right, 3 dollars). Carrying a debt of $160 million that $3 didn't go very far, and the league folded after a couple of years. Trump was one of the owners IIRC

[Derwood]

bummer...apparently cuban is trying to develop an alternate football league to compete with the NFL...

 

i guess he isn't in the running anymore

 

plus...this makes him a bit dumb...

 

you guys remember the XFL?

 

Not to mention the USFL in the 80's. They filed and actually won an antitrust lawsuit against the NFL, but were awarded $3 in damages (that's right, 3 dollars). Carrying a debt of $160 million that $3 didn't go very far, and the league folded after a couple of years. Trump was one of the owners IIRC

 

USFL would have been fine if they had stuck to a spring schedule. as soon as they decided to go heads up with the NFL in the fall, they were screwed

[FergieJ31]

bummer...apparently cuban is trying to develop an alternate football league to compete with the NFL...

 

i guess he isn't in the running anymore

 

plus...this makes him a bit dumb...

 

you guys remember the XFL?

 

Not to mention the USFL in the 80's. They filed and actually won an antitrust lawsuit against the NFL, but were awarded $3 in damages (that's right, 3 dollars). Carrying a debt of $160 million that $3 didn't go very far, and the league folded after a couple of years. Trump was one of the owners IIRC

 

USFL would have been fine if they had stuck to a spring schedule. as soon as they decided to go heads up with the NFL in the fall, they were screwed

 

No, the USFL would not have been fine.

 

Practically all of the USFL franchises were hemorraging money because of the huge contracts they were playing their marquee players, and the USFL had a TON of talent. Whether the games were in the spring or fall, they were effectively in direct competition with the NFL from the get go.

 

I think the USFL strategy all along was to eventually go to a fall schedule while pursuing the antitrust suit, and try to win some of the NFL's TV rights to stop the bleeding.

 

I don't know the details of Cuban's proposed league, but to me it seems like a losing bet if history is any guide.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban is part of a group considering formation of a football league that would compete with the NFL for players drafted after the second round.

 

The league, still very much in the preliminary stage, would play its games on Friday nights.

 

“It's a pretty simple concept,” Cuban said in an e-mail to The Associated Press. “We think there is more demand for pro football than supply.”

 

Los Angeles, Mexico City and Las Vegas are among cities where the league hopes to have teams, Reuters reported.

[Derwood]

competing for players with the NFL

 

 

and Arena League

 

 

and the CFL

 

 

 

and NFL Europe

[Derwood]

Colin Cowherd (gulp) made a really good point about all this today. He said yes, there is demand for more football, but not for crappy football. He made the analogy to the airlines or hotel industry; there is always demand for another great hotel chain or airline, but no one is clamoring for a cut-rate, badly run business in any industry

[Banedon]

Colin Cowherd (gulp) made a really good point about all this today. He said yes, there is demand for more football, but not for crappy football. He made the analogy to the airlines or hotel industry; there is always demand for another great hotel chain or airline, but no one is clamoring for a cut-rate, badly run business in any industry

 

I'd argue that there's plenty of people clamoring for a cut-rate, well run business though. There are plenty of "discount" airlines that are used pretty frequently. And there's plenty of room for budget hotels. I think that's a terrible analogy.

 

Minor league baseball seems to do just fine. The CBA has managed to stay to remain in business. The CFL, AFL, and NFL Europe all are popular enough to support continued operations.

 

I'm not saying he'll be successful. I just think it's a poor analogy.

[Derwood]

Colin Cowherd (gulp) made a really good point about all this today. He said yes, there is demand for more football, but not for crappy football. He made the analogy to the airlines or hotel industry; there is always demand for another great hotel chain or airline, but no one is clamoring for a cut-rate, badly run business in any industry

 

I'd argue that there's plenty of people clamoring for a cut-rate, well run business though. There are plenty of "discount" airlines that are used pretty frequently. And there's plenty of room for budget hotels. I think that's a terrible analogy.

 

Minor league baseball seems to do just fine. The CBA has managed to stay to remain in business. The CFL, AFL, and NFL Europe all are popular enough to support continued operations.

 

I'm not saying he'll be successful. I just think it's a poor analogy.

 

i think his point wasn't that people don't want discount airlines, but they don't want shoddy, poorly run airlines. People don't want a crappy league with bad players and kitschy marketing

[Lockes Eye Scar]

USFL, XFL... nothing more needs to be said. will NEVER work.

[Jon]

If there's a large betting community for it along with a large fantasy fan base, it could work.

 

Of course, without those two things, the NFL would be down in NBA territory right now.

[Shilzzz]

bummer...apparently cuban is trying to develop an alternate football league to compete with the NFL...

 

i guess he isn't in the running anymore

 

plus...this makes him a bit dumb...

 

you guys remember the XFL?

 

oh...who who who will buy the cubs, who who, who who?

 

Knowing our luck, probably Rupert Murdoch

 

ok, i have a myspace account, but i would NEVER support the cubs in ANY WAY if murdoch was the owner. NEVER.

[Cubfanintheknow]

bummer...apparently cuban is trying to develop an alternate football league to compete with the NFL...

 

i guess he isn't in the running anymore

 

plus...this makes him a bit dumb...

 

you guys remember the XFL?

 

Not to mention the USFL in the 80's. They filed and actually won an antitrust lawsuit against the NFL, but were awarded $3 in damages (that's right, 3 dollars). Carrying a debt of $160 million that $3 didn't go very far, and the league folded after a couple of years. Trump was one of the owners IIRC

 

Actually, the USFL won only $1 in damages. But antitrust laws dictate the fine automatically be tripled. Hence the $3. Just splitting hairs, though.

 

Maybe Cuban is hoping to play a couple of seasons, then sell the broadcast rights to ESPN classic, like the old USFL.

 

Hard to believe this is going to be attempted yet again. Lots of other attempts--remember the old WFL in the mid-70's?--but it's his money to waste, so let him, I guess.

 

It just might produce the next Rod Smart, a.k.a. "He Hate Me".

[Omar]

I think the AFL is the only thing that has come close to success in American Football other than the obvious NFL... So take a lesson from the past - thats why history is so important - Don't compete with the NFL. You will lose.

[RegulusBlue]

bummer...apparently cuban is trying to develop an alternate football league to compete with the NFL...

 

i guess he isn't in the running anymore

 

plus...this makes him a bit dumb...

 

you guys remember the XFL?

 

oh...who who who will buy the cubs, who who, who who?

 

Knowing our luck, probably Rupert Murdoch

 

ok, i have a myspace account, but i would NEVER support the cubs in ANY WAY if murdoch was the owner. NEVER.

 

That would be huge (edit: HUGE) mistake on your part. Murdoch is a very rich man because he is very extremely successful and smart with all of his assets. If any man can turn the Cubs into the Midwest Yankees complete with media hype and wins to boot, its a man like Murdoch.

 

Don't let your politics get in the way of what would be a great thing for the Cubs. God, only a liberal can see a bad thing when one of the most successful men in the world is suggested as a buyer for the world's worst bigtime franchise.

 

Shouldn't you be in a drum circle or music festival somewhere?

[seanimal]

bummer...apparently cuban is trying to develop an alternate football league to compete with the NFL...

 

i guess he isn't in the running anymore

 

plus...this makes him a bit dumb...

 

you guys remember the XFL?

 

oh...who who who will buy the cubs, who who, who who?

 

Knowing our luck, probably Rupert Murdoch

 

ok, i have a myspace account, but i would NEVER support the cubs in ANY WAY if murdoch was the owner. NEVER.

 

That would be huge (edit: HUGE) mistake on your part. Murdoch is a very rich man because he is very extremely successful and smart with all of his assets. If any man can turn the Cubs into the Midwest Yankees complete with media hype and wins to boot, its a man like Murdoch.

 

Don't let your politics get in the way of what would be a great thing for the Cubs. God, only a liberal can see a bad thing when one of the most successful men in the world is suggested as a buyer for the world's worst bigtime franchise.

 

Shouldn't you be in a drum circle or music festival somewhere?

 

:lol:

 

I was thinking more along the lines of being owned by a major media corporation...

[MPrior]

That would be huge (edit: HUGE) mistake on your part. Murdoch is a very rich man because he is very extremely successful and smart with all of his assets. If any man can turn the Cubs into the Midwest Yankees complete with media hype and wins to boot, its a man like Murdoch.

 

Don't let your politics get in the way of what would be a great thing for the Cubs. God, only a liberal can see a bad thing when one of the most successful men in the world is suggested as a buyer for the world's worst bigtime franchise.

 

Shouldn't you be in a drum circle or music festival somewhere?

 

Whoa.

[Banedon]

Colin Cowherd (gulp) made a really good point about all this today. He said yes, there is demand for more football, but not for crappy football. He made the analogy to the airlines or hotel industry; there is always demand for another great hotel chain or airline, but no one is clamoring for a cut-rate, badly run business in any industry

 

I'd argue that there's plenty of people clamoring for a cut-rate, well run business though. There are plenty of "discount" airlines that are used pretty frequently. And there's plenty of room for budget hotels. I think that's a terrible analogy.

 

Minor league baseball seems to do just fine. The CBA has managed to stay to remain in business. The CFL, AFL, and NFL Europe all are popular enough to support continued operations.

 

I'm not saying he'll be successful. I just think it's a poor analogy.

 

i think his point wasn't that people don't want discount airlines, but they don't want shoddy, poorly run airlines. People don't want a crappy league with bad players and kitschy marketing

 

I understand, but he's jumping to conclusions that it would be "poorly run". And unknown players doesn't mean "bad players".

 

It all depends on exactly how they try to do this. If they try to make it a smaller community kind of thing, like minor league baseball, it could work. If he tries to be like the XFL and directly compete with the NFL with "kitschy marketing", then yes, I'd forsee massive failure.

 

I just don't see Mark Cuban as a dumb guy. He's made a lot of good business deals (and a few bad ones). I'm willing to wait for some more detail before I completely dismiss the idea.

[biittner77]

Could this league compete with College football for talent? Perhaps this league could be a younger league where the guys that aren't student athletes could go play and earn a paycheck instead of pretending to get an education. That type of league could be a feeder system for the NFL and might therefore have a chance to succeed. It would be sort of like the CBA before they turned it over to the hands of Isaiah Thomas.

[cubscausestress]

bummer...apparently cuban is trying to develop an alternate football league to compete with the NFL...

 

i guess he isn't in the running anymore

 

plus...this makes him a bit dumb...

 

you guys remember the XFL?

 

oh...who who who will buy the cubs, who who, who who?

 

Knowing our luck, probably Rupert Murdoch

 

ok, i have a myspace account, but i would NEVER support the cubs in ANY WAY if murdoch was the owner. NEVER.

 

That would be huge (edit: HUGE) mistake on your part. Murdoch is a very rich man because he is very extremely successful and smart with all of his assets. If any man can turn the Cubs into the Midwest Yankees complete with media hype and wins to boot, its a man like Murdoch.

 

Don't let your politics get in the way of what would be a great thing for the Cubs. God, only a liberal can see a bad thing when one of the most successful men in the world is suggested as a buyer for the world's worst bigtime franchise.

 

Shouldn't you be in a drum circle or music festival somewhere?

 

shouldn't you be praying somewhere out in the woods with a shotgun while hunting, after burning 20 gallons of fuel in your full-sized cab truck with a picture of calvin on the back pissing on France?

[anabiono]

bummer...apparently cuban is trying to develop an alternate football league to compete with the NFL...

 

i guess he isn't in the running anymore

 

plus...this makes him a bit dumb...

 

you guys remember the XFL?

 

oh...who who who will buy the cubs, who who, who who?

 

Knowing our luck, probably Rupert Murdoch

 

ok, i have a myspace account, but i would NEVER support the cubs in ANY WAY if murdoch was the owner. NEVER.

 

That would be huge (edit: HUGE) mistake on your part. Murdoch is a very rich man because he is very extremely successful and smart with all of his assets. If any man can turn the Cubs into the Midwest Yankees complete with media hype and wins to boot, its a man like Murdoch.

 

Don't let your politics get in the way of what would be a great thing for the Cubs. God, only a liberal can see a bad thing when one of the most successful men in the world is suggested as a buyer for the world's worst bigtime franchise.

 

Shouldn't you be in a drum circle or music festival somewhere?

 

shouldn't you be praying somewhere out in the woods with a shotgun while hunting, after burning 20 gallons of fuel in your full-sized cab truck with a picture of calvin on the back pissing on France?

 

i still only eat freedom fries

[Soul]

bummer...apparently cuban is trying to develop an alternate football league to compete with the NFL...

 

i guess he isn't in the running anymore

 

plus...this makes him a bit dumb...

 

you guys remember the XFL?

 

oh...who who who will buy the cubs, who who, who who?

 

Knowing our luck, probably Rupert Murdoch

 

ok, i have a myspace account, but i would NEVER support the cubs in ANY WAY if murdoch was the owner. NEVER.

 

Yeah right, keep telling yourself that. Some of these Tribune executive types easily share Rupert's political philosophy, hasn't stopped you from supporting the Cubs yet.

[Abe Frohman]

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