Jim Hendry should be Fired - NOW!

[frostwyrm]

Soriano is still pissing me off. Other than prove he can beat up on Pirates pitching what has he done so far? Of his 68 total bases 24 of them have come against the Pirates. His season stats(.813 OPS) certainly aren't where they need to be for his salary and position, and if you take out the Pirates numbers he looks really bad. If Soriano tanks that's certainly a firing offense for Hendry.

[mhuber92211]

What cracks me up is that this thread is started by an alleged "Voice of Reason." I guess the Cubs can even make reasonable people insane.

 

BTW, The Cubs payroll figure according to the USA today was under100 million this season

[Guest]

What cracks me up is that this thread is started by an alleged "Voice of Reason." I guess the Cubs can even make reasonable people insane.

 

BTW, The Cubs payroll figure according to the USA today was under100 million this season

 

The opening day 25-man roster payroll was $99,670,332. It should only be $96,420,332 but Rusch still counts $3.25mil against this year's payroll.

[seanimal]

What cracks me up is that this thread is started by an alleged "Voice of Reason." I guess the Cubs can even make reasonable people insane.

 

BTW, The Cubs payroll figure according to the USA today was under100 million this season

 

The opening day 25-man roster payroll was $99,670,332. It should only be $96,420,332 but Rusch still counts $3.25mil against this year's payroll.

 

Anyone with any idea how much net profit this team dragged in last year?

[SouthSideRyan]

Was it a coincidence that after the RedSux built on top of the Monster in 2003 that HRs stopped going out with the same frequency as before?

 

Methinks not.

This statement makes no sense

 

Why?

 

Gammons mentioned it again the other nite after one of the guys cleared the Monster. The ball simply isnt traveling as well to left field these days.

 

The new edition up there has caused some kind of change to the wind direction in Fenway. It was done right before the RedSux won the Championship in 2004. Some say its a coincidence which i can somewhat understand. Some say it was a fundamental change to the pitching staff (which i disagree with. look at the 70s Boston staff of Eck, Torrez, Tiant, and Lee. Pretty hard throwers with good stuff but they were unable to seal the deal.) I think it is the wind dynamics. I do not understand why that makes little sense.

 

Does it magically travel well for the Red Sox and not for the opponent? Why should it matter how a park plays when dealing with how a team fares? And did the Red Sox remove the Monster seats in '05? And then take like 6 feet off the wall in '06 to ensure the Sox wouldn't even make the playoffs?

[DivineBovine]

2 events will make the team instantly better-

 

The firing of Jim "I don't believe in walks" Hendry

 

The sale of the team by the penny pinching, fan scamming tribune company.

 

 

Fortunately, both events should come pretty soon.

[seanimal]

2 events will make the team instantly better-

 

The firing of Jim "I don't believe in walks" Hendry

 

The sale of the team by the penny pinching, fan scamming tribune company.

 

 

Fortunately, both events should come pretty soon.

 

And I will bask in the gloriousness.

[Careless]

What cracks me up is that this thread is started by an alleged "Voice of Reason." I guess the Cubs can even make reasonable people insane.

 

BTW, The Cubs payroll figure according to the USA today was under100 million this season

 

The opening day 25-man roster payroll was $99,670,332. It should only be $96,420,332 but Rusch still counts $3.25mil against this year's payroll.

 

Anyone with any idea how much net profit this team dragged in last year?

ridiculously hard to figure out while the team is owned by WGN. Should be a much easier calculation next season

[sunnydoo]

Was it a coincidence that after the RedSux built on top of the Monster in 2003 that HRs stopped going out with the same frequency as before?

 

Methinks not.

This statement makes no sense

it makes sense. It's silly and illogical, but it makes sense. he's telling you why he thinks something happened. That's an opinion, and they don't need to be backed with facts to be intelligible, even if they are nonsensical

 

Now that i take a look at it, i see what Gammons is saying...but its an incorrect data conclusion.

 

The percentage of HRs hit out to LF has been dropping since they added the seats in 2003, and with everything being equal, Gammons would have reached the logical conclusion that the seats were causing the mayhem.

 

The assumption is that everything remained equal...and it did not. Big Papi is the reason the % of HRs is increasing to RF, which is causing the numbers to drag to LF. Ortiz actually hit more HRs in Fenway last year than Psycho...the first time that has happened.

 

The funny thing looking at the stats for the last 10 years is the 2 curves:

 

• 
  2007 13/15
  2006 74/73
  2005 79/72
  2004 77/111
  2003 74/111
  2002 68/77
  2001 77/97
  2000 77/66
  1999 72/80
  1998 83/93
  1997 62/90

 

The Sox pitchers have been remarkably consistent, while the hitters have not.

[C.C.]

Soriano is still pissing me off. Other than prove he can beat up on Pirates pitching what has he done so far? Of his 68 total bases 24 of them have come against the Pirates. His season stats(.813 OPS) certainly aren't where they need to be for his salary and position, and if you take out the Pirates numbers he looks really bad. If Soriano tanks that's certainly a firing offense for Hendry.

 

I'm just stunned to see he only has 8 RBI's.

[Tracer Bullet]

Piniella is a good manager.

 

The Cubs have so little talent, though.

 

What can he do?

 

We have a good manager and have talent....You know what, I don't know what to say. Our offense comes through today and our bullpen (Dempster-Eyre) faulter. We just find ways to lose. I can't explain it. On paper the Stats should balance out to at least a .500 team, but we aren't.

 

We do not have a good manager.

[Soul]

What cracks me up is that this thread is started by an alleged "Voice of Reason." I guess the Cubs can even make reasonable people insane.

 

BTW, The Cubs payroll figure according to the USA today was under100 million this season

 

The opening day 25-man roster payroll was $99,670,332. It should only be $96,420,332 but Rusch still counts $3.25mil against this year's payroll.

 

That's true, but the actual Cubs payroll including deadweight and what not, is more like $115 million:

 

http://www.northsidebaseball.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=36396&start=60

 

Ya can't just take all the bad decisions and players who tanked, remove their salaries from the table, and then paint a rosier picture. In other words, nobody forced Mr. Hendry to re-up guys like Wood & Prior. That counts against him.

[Amazing_Grace]

Soriano is still pissing me off. Other than prove he can beat up on Pirates pitching what has he done so far? Of his 68 total bases 24 of them have come against the Pirates. His season stats(.813 OPS) certainly aren't where they need to be for his salary and position, and if you take out the Pirates numbers he looks really bad. If Soriano tanks that's certainly a firing offense for Hendry.

 

A lot of people on this board, including myself, suggested this past offseason that Soriano's numbers last year might be an aberration and he could very possibly regress towards his career numbers, which puts him at an OPS in the low to mid .800s and very much not worth approx. 15M a year for a guy that plays the easiest position in baseball to fill. Hendry didn't need any more offenses to be fired.

 

On a depressing note, if we're disappointed now, imagine when he's making 17M at age 38.

[The Voice of Reason]

What cracks me up is that this thread is started by an alleged "Voice of Reason." I guess the Cubs can even make reasonable people insane.

 

BTW, The Cubs payroll figure according to the USA today was under100 million this season

 

So you think Hendry has done a great job and anyone that thinks he should be fired is insane? :?

[hitamprun]

Hendry should be fired two years ago, or last season at the very least. Having him around this past offseason to hand out his hideous backloaded contracts virtually guarantees that the Cubs won't be signing any more big free agents the next few years. If the new owners want to pennypinch, who knows how bad it could get.

 

Your timing is right, Hendry should have been launched 1-2 years ago. It amazes me how this guy has avoided accountability for the parent clubs win/loss record and steady decline over the years. Furthermore, he ran the farm system for several years before he became GM, and it has also produced very little from a position player standpoint, and is terrible at developing talent and teaching fundemental baseball.

 

There have been two constants in this organization now for 6 years - Hendry & Rothschild, and they have both avoided responsibility for failure. People can keep blaming Dusty and now some Piniella, but the way Hendry puts the parts together, no one would win with his players.

 

My hope is the new owners will move on this rather quickly, and bring someone in that can improve the entire baseball organization.

[YearofDaCubs]

Chances are, Hendry is a goner after this year but unfortunately the damage has been done with his ridiculous backloaded contracts. We're strapped with an overrated and overpriced player in Soriano. DeRosa has been bombing and every single setup man Hendry has signed to ridiculous money has bombed, Eyre, Howry, Remlinger, Hawks etc.. This guy is a TERRIBLE GM! I bet you any money when Hendry signed Soriano to that RIDICULOUS contract there were GMs out there laughing their asses off, I know I would. Fire the man already!

[anabiono]

Hendry should be fired two years ago, or last season at the very least. Having him around this past offseason to hand out his hideous backloaded contracts virtually guarantees that the Cubs won't be signing any more big free agents the next few years. If the new owners want to pennypinch, who knows how bad it could get.

 

Your timing is right, Hendry should have been launched 1-2 years ago. It amazes me how this guy has avoided accountability for the parent clubs win/loss record and steady decline over the years. Furthermore, he ran the farm system for several years before he became GM, and it has also produced very little from a position player standpoint, and is terrible at developing talent and teaching fundemental baseball.

 

There have been two constants in this organization now for 6 years - Hendry & Rothschild, and they have both avoided responsibility for failure. People can keep blaming Dusty and now some Piniella, but the way Hendry puts the parts together, no one would win with his players.

 

My hope is the new owners will move on this rather quickly, and bring someone in that can improve the entire baseball organization.

 

i am sure they will

 

and really, Piniella is not to blame...i like Piniella...do not forget that he is still getting used to who goes where and what have you...soriano batting leadoff was probably being pushed by hendry...now...the chips are falling where they should be soriano is in LF and he will not be batting in the leadoff spot anymore...

 

lou isn't responsible for the pen looking like a bunch of rotten eggs

 

i believe he will find the proper way to approach this thing in the next month, and lets not forget that we are not even one-third of the way into the season yet...

 

still a long way to go

 

eta" he also has to deal with a ridiculous outfield situation and who really knows how much his hands are tied...i am guessing hendry isn't letting lou do as much as he wants to at this moment...and i really REALLY hope that changes very very very soon

[goonys evil twin]

eta" he also has to deal with a ridiculous outfield situation and who really knows how much his hands are tied...i am guessing hendry isn't letting lou do as much as he wants to at this moment...and i really REALLY hope that changes very very very soon

 

I can't imagine a single thing that Lou would want to be doing that Hendry isn't allowing him to do, other than working with a great roster that is.

[davearm]

Gammons mentioned it again the other nite after one of the guys cleared the Monster. The ball simply isnt traveling as well to left field these days.

 

The new edition up there has caused some kind of change to the wind direction in Fenway. It was done right before the RedSux won the Championship in 2004. Some say its a coincidence which i can somewhat understand. Some say it was a fundamental change to the pitching staff (which i disagree with. look at the 70s Boston staff of Eck, Torrez, Tiant, and Lee. Pretty hard throwers with good stuff but they were unable to seal the deal.) I think it is the wind dynamics. I do not understand why that makes little sense.

So the Red Sox won the World Series thanks to changing wind patterns?

 

As theories go, that one's as far out there as any I've heard in quite a while.

[mhuber92211]

What cracks me up is that this thread is started by an alleged "Voice of Reason." I guess the Cubs can even make reasonable people insane.

 

BTW, The Cubs payroll figure according to the USA today was under100 million this season

 

So you think Hendry has done a great job and anyone that thinks he should be fired is insane? :?

 

I think that he has done a better job then what is being bantered about after a tough loss. Ironically, the overall mood of the board has shifted today to a much better balance of logical and unemotional reponse. What I was commenting on was the fact that an obviously emotional response to a VERY tough loss was initiated by a poster named as a Voice of Reason. Inherently, you should be the 1 poster who has no emotional response in a situation, but a reasonable one.

[Bote McBoteface]

Chances are, Hendry is a goner after this year but unfortunately the damage has been done with his ridiculous backloaded contracts. We're strapped with an overrated and overpriced player in Soriano. DeRosa has been bombing and every single setup man Hendry has signed to ridiculous money has bombed, Eyre, Howry, Remlinger, Hawks etc.. This guy is a TERRIBLE GM! I bet you any money when Hendry signed Soriano to that RIDICULOUS contract there were GMs out there laughing their asses off, I know I would. Fire the man already!

 

I wouldn't call Howry a bust.

 

And in Hendry's defense, for every Eyre, Remlinger, Hawkins, etc... there has been a Karos, Ramirez, Grudzielanek, Lilly, Marquis, etc.

 

He hasn't been all bad. You're over-exaggerating terribly and it makes me a sad panda =/

[The Voice of Reason]

What cracks me up is that this thread is started by an alleged "Voice of Reason." I guess the Cubs can even make reasonable people insane.

 

BTW, The Cubs payroll figure according to the USA today was under100 million this season

 

So you think Hendry has done a great job and anyone that thinks he should be fired is insane? :?

 

I think that he has done a better job then what is being bantered about after a tough loss. Ironically, the overall mood of the board has shifted today to a much better balance of logical and unemotional reponse. What I was commenting on was the fact that an obviously emotional response to a VERY tough loss was initiated by a poster named as a Voice of Reason. Inherently, you should be the 1 poster who has no emotional response in a situation, but a reasonable one.

 

Which of the following statements do you disagree with or consider unreasonable?

 

It's his team.

 

He had all the money in the world to build it.

 

It's his high priced "pen" (among other things) that he said was "fixed" that's killing this team.

 

There's not a lot of reason for hope in the minor league system he built and oversees.

[mhuber92211]

 

Which of the following statements do you disagree with or consider unreasonable?

 

It's his team.

 

He had all the money in the world to build it.

 

It's his high priced "pen" (among other things) that he said was "fixed" that's killing this team.

 

There's not a lot of reason for hope in the minor league system he built and oversees.

 

I agree that this is his team and that he has had the needed budget if the situation called for it (i.e. Furcal)

 

His bullpen is NOT high priced but I agree that he has paid specific bullpen arms large contracts. I disagree that he overpaid for them. Considering the market (look at what the Reds paid in players) but Hendry has spent large dollars on typical large dollar positions. Setup men cost as much as some closers and it most cases of large payroll teams, are the biggest source of overspend. From the "fixes" available to Hendry when he signed Howry & Eyre (who both were worth what they got paid last year) who else received big money and were worth it?

 

The minor league system is in better shape then you make it out to be. Hendry has little to do with actual development and scouting. As a GM, you have to delegate many things and Hendry can't be everywhere to see every player. Does he sign off on the big ones? Certainly. But in Hendry's tenure as GM, the "big ones" that went bust went that way mostly from injury and not from lack of talent. You can't predict injury for the most part. Hendry's tenure as scouting director was sucessful, so I doubt that he suddenly forgot how to scout.

 

The main argument I have against the general school of thought on Hendry is the money. Budget has little to do with success. Just because the team has a high payroll shouldn't be a reason for a poor grade on a GM's tenure.

[TruffleShuffle]

I wouldn't call Howry a bust.

 

I've not given up on him yet either. Yes, he's had a poor start this year, but he was very good from 2004-06. If he sucks this year, it wouldn't surprise me if Dusty's meaningless overuse last year has something to do with it.

[AlwaysaCub]

I think one of Hendry's underrated busts was his not winning Rafael Furcal. It led to the Pierre trade, and we could use the guys we gave up now. But also, we didn't get Mr. Furcal and now have a relatively weak middle infield instead of Furcal, who has some patience and plays in Dodger Stadium and had an .814 OPS there last season.