Soriano to 2B?

[erik316wttn]

Maybe move Soriano to 2B, and Theriot to SS? If Theriot can play short, your OF problem is solved.

 

He told Lou today to play him wherever, so it seems his prima donna days of "I'm only playing one position" crap is over.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I think Soriano at 2b is only in the case of emergency.

[Magnetic Curses]

no. it's better for all if he sticks to left.

 

you'd also create another problem on the infield with derosa having no place to play.

[Schwarber Fan]

How does that solve our OF problem...?

 

DeRosa

Floyd

Jones

Murton

Pie

 

Still 5 OFs...

 

I assume you just forgot DeRosa/decided to bench him?

[hawkcub]

NO

 

Soriano sucked at 2nd before, just because he played there once doesn't mean he was good at it.

[Sammy Sofa]

Maybe move Soriano to 2B, and Theriot to SS? If Theriot can play short, your OF problem is solved.

 

He told Lou today to play him wherever, so it seems his prima donna days of "I'm only playing one position" crap is over.

 

As much as I think defense gets overrated in terms of importance with this team, that's just begging for diaster with those two taking care of the middle IF.

[cubfan1955]

And he wasn't that great defensively as a 2B to begin with. I'd rather keep him in LF but it's nice to know we can use him there in a pinch.

[wilk]

Saying he "wasn't that great" is very generous to him. If anything, today's "emergency" showed why we need one less outfielder and one more shortstop.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I'm starting to think Jones looks fine in CF. He's not as strong as Pie, but I'm ok with Jones as the CF. If that's the case, there's really no reason to put Soriano at 2b.

[cubfan1955]

I'm starting to think Jones looks fine in CF. He's not as strong as Pie, but I'm ok with Jones as the CF. If that's the case, there's really no reason to put Soriano at 2b.

I agree. Jones has been fine. I think at this point I'd rather see Pie playing everyday at Iowa then as a defensive replacement/pinch runner late in the game. I'm also not in hurry to trade Jones away.

[Rob]

I'd be willing to put Soriano at 2B and move DeRosa to SS when we have a flyball pitcher like Hill or Lilly on the mound. Their positive offensive impact would probably outweigh any defensive concerns in that case.

[wilk]

I sure hope Lou isn't as willing.

[Soul]

Umm, I don't think it takes a genius to figure out that Soriano is willing to play wherever in a pinch, but that's not the same as being willing to be put anywhere permanently.

[Flames24Rulz]

Leave him in the OF. LF is perfect for him.

 

And moving Soriano to 2B wouldn't solve anything at all because where would DeRosa play then?

[Rob]

I sure hope Lou isn't as willing.

 

If you'd rather decrease win expectancy slightly in order to allow the team to conform more closely to archaic and antiquated views about lineup construction, I suppose that's a tradeoff that you can decide whether you'd like to make.

 

Personally, I will root for the team to win, even if it necessitates the employ of unconventional tactics.

[Magnetic Curses]

I'd be willing to put Soriano at 2B and move DeRosa to SS when we have a flyball pitcher like Hill or Lilly on the mound. Their positive offensive impact would probably outweigh any defensive concerns in that case.

 

that's interesting. i wouldn't dismiss it totally, it has merit.

[wilk]

I sure hope Lou isn't as willing.

 

If you'd rather decrease win expectancy slightly in order to allow the team to conform more closely to archaic and antiquated views about lineup construction, I suppose that's a tradeoff that you can decide whether you'd like to make.

 

Personally, I will root for the team to win, even if it necessitates the employ of unconventional tactics.

 

No, as I see it, you are decreasing win expectancy. And it's not as if you're adding Soriano's offense; you're essentially replacing Theriot with Murton if you're taking Soriano out of left to 2B, DeRosa to SS and presumably one of Murton/Floyd in left and the other in right. Correct? It has nothing to do with "lineup construction." And I don't see it as unconventional, I see it as unwise. It'd be a different story if we were struggling to get Soriano into the lineup and there was nowhere to put him. There's also the entire realm of the fact the game is human -- should we really dismiss Soriano's comfort level when it's been pretty obvious throughout his career he performs best when he's most content? With that plan, we're quite possibly somewhat decreasing Soriano's offense output, significantly decreasing infield defense and thus pitching security (watch what will happen to everyone's BABIP), taking the best arm (besides Pie) from the outfield and all to put Murton in instead of Theriot. I think Murton will be the better hitter, but so far this year it's been Theriot and the difference certainly doesn't outweigh the aforementioned concerns. So, no, it's not that I'm "comforming more closely to archaic and antiquated views about lineup construction." It's that I see there's no logic in it.

 

I root for the team to win too. Thanks.

[LetsGoCubs89]

Maybe move Soriano to 2B, and Theriot to SS? If Theriot can play short, your OF problem is solved.

 

He told Lou today to play him wherever, so it seems his prima donna days of "I'm only playing one position" crap is over.

 

very dumb post

[Rob]

No, as I see it, you are decreasing win expectancy. And it's not as if you're adding Soriano's offense; you're essentially replacing Theriot with Murton if you're taking Soriano out of left to 2B, DeRosa to SS and presumably one of Murton/Floyd in left and the other in right. Correct? It has nothing to do with "lineup construction." And I don't see it as unconventional, I see it as unwise. It'd be a different story if we were struggling to get Soriano into the lineup and there was nowhere to put him. There's also the entire realm of the fact the game is human -- should we really dismiss Soriano's comfort level when it's been pretty obvious throughout his career he performs best when he's most content? With that plan, we're quite possibly somewhat decreasing Soriano's offense output, significantly decreasing infield defense and thus pitching security (watch what will happen to everyone's BABIP), taking the best arm (besides Pie) from the outfield and all to put Murton in instead of Theriot. I think Murton will be the better hitter, but so far this year it's been Theriot and the difference certainly doesn't outweigh the aforementioned concerns. So, no, it's not that I'm "comforming more closely to archaic and antiquated views about lineup construction." It's that I see there's no logic in it.

 

I root for the team to win too. Thanks.

 

Basing your decision on the last 250 PA by Theriot may be a bit foolish considering his minor league track record. Yes, I realize that he fairly recently stopped switch hitting, but absolutely nothing in his track record suggests he's a .300 hitter... most projection systems see him hitting in the .260 to .270 range with no power. I have no problem riding him while he's hot, but at some point he will turn back into a pumpkin.

 

At that point, the difference in offense between Floyd/Murton and Theriot may very well justify the defensive downgrades when pitchers like Lilly and Hill are on the mound. Their high strikeout, flyball approach to pitching makes the defensive downgrades in the infield mean much, much less.

[erik316wttn]

Maybe move Soriano to 2B, and Theriot to SS? If Theriot can play short, your OF problem is solved.

 

He told Lou today to play him wherever, so it seems his prima donna days of "I'm only playing one position" crap is over.

 

very dumb post

 

Thank you for your wonderful insight on the topic. I think I'll run off and cry because I've bene proven a moron in just three simple words.

 

Thank you, LetsGoCubs for showing me the error of my ways. Kudos to you, fine sir.

 

And notice because I used the word "maybe" that I was posing it as a hypothetical question, and not a "We HAVE to do this" type of situation.

 

But you already knew that, smart as you are.

[Soul]

I sure hope Lou isn't as willing.

 

If you'd rather decrease win expectancy slightly in order to allow the team to conform more closely to archaic and antiquated views about lineup construction, I suppose that's a tradeoff that you can decide whether you'd like to make.

 

Personally, I will root for the team to win, even if it necessitates the employ of unconventional tactics.

 

Me too, but I don't think this would help the Cubs win. At all.

[Rob]

I sure hope Lou isn't as willing.

 

If you'd rather decrease win expectancy slightly in order to allow the team to conform more closely to archaic and antiquated views about lineup construction, I suppose that's a tradeoff that you can decide whether you'd like to make.

 

Personally, I will root for the team to win, even if it necessitates the employ of unconventional tactics.

 

Me too, but I don't think this would help the Cubs win. At all.

 

Even sac bunts can be useful if used correctly. This is no different.

[Coach C]

I'd be willing to put Soriano at 2B and move DeRosa to SS when we have a flyball pitcher like Hill or Lilly on the mound. Their positive offensive impact would probably outweigh any defensive concerns in that case.

 

Not a bad idea, except where would The Riot play? I think, in my opinion, that there's no need to move The Riot, considering how well he's been performing.

[Jehrico]

Soriano should be used at 2nd with about the same frequency that Marquis should be used as a pinch hitter.

[Rob]

I'd be willing to put Soriano at 2B and move DeRosa to SS when we have a flyball pitcher like Hill or Lilly on the mound. Their positive offensive impact would probably outweigh any defensive concerns in that case.

 

Not a bad idea, except where would The Riot play? I think, in my opinion, that there's no need to move The Riot, considering how well he's been performing.

 

Again, the entire idea is predicated on the idea that Theriot will come back down to earth sometime.