Wrigley Field

[BeerHere]

Your problem with Wrigleyville seems to be your main problem with the field. I've heard the same complaints about the neighborhood from people who've lived there, but it's not reason enough to move the Cubs out.

I agree, but when you combine this with everything else I stated a few pages back, I think the Cubs should seriously consider moving out of Wrigley. Notice I said "Wrigley" and not out of the city. If they could find a suitable site in the city, great. The issue they have with City Council has to do with the landmark status that Daley administration had placed on the park to force the Tribune to pay into the pockets of the alderman/landowners. Move them to another park and that problem goes away (maybe temporarily).

[J.R.]

And you know the stats of every visiting player?

 

When I want 'em, I don't go to the ballpark to find out.

 

I'll say again that I wouldn't trade the clarity of our board for the information overload present in many modern parks. Balls, strikes and outs are nearly secondary in too many places.

[Exile on Waveland]

I live 4.5-5 hours away from Wrigley and lived even further away as a kid. I've often driven up to games and back on the same day.

 

There is NO way I'd trade Wrigley Field for a newer stadium because of some traffic/parking issues. I'll take the traffic issues (which I think are overblown) and a classic stadium over a smoother trip for a shiny retro stadium.

 

PNC, AT&T, Camden Yards are great parks. I love visiting them. However, there are two truly unique stadiums: Wrigley and Fenway. They are breathtaking and historical. Please Cubs, do not leave.

[Chocolate Milk]

I can't express how much I would loathe the Cubs moving to the Suburbs. It would be horrible.

I would be willing to bet that you live in the city. Am I correct?

 

Yup.

 

Color me shocked

 

As shocked as I am to hear someone from Cary that wants a new stadium at thier doorstep. Sorry it takes you so long to get to the game, for some reason. You live in Cary, not sure what you expect.

 

Never said my doorstep. Your exaggerations are childish.

 

Never said I worked in Cary. He asked where I live. Although I do go to day games, most of the games I attend are at night, after work. I also said that I used to live in Wrigleyville, until I was married 5 years ago. Not sure if you live in Wrigleyville, but if you do you likely rent and your landlord is extremely wealthy, and is living in either Kennilworth, Evanston, Lake Forest or Highland Park. If you think those people give 2 craps about you and your neighborhood you are sadly mistaken. The "Neighborhood Improvement Fund" that the Tribune was forced to pay into goes straight into their pockets. the neighborhood and the city administration treats the Cubs (the team I love) like crap. It's upsetting.

 

My exaggerations? You've pretty much exaggerated every transportation related complaint you've had about Wrigley. Who are you kidding here?

 

I used to live in Wrigleyville, before that I lived in the Burbs, and now I live near Navy Pier. My outlook hasn't changed. I've been to a number of sporting events and all of them have issues getting there and leaving. That's par for the course. I don't expect to be able to breeze into any game I go to, it's unreasonable. I also think it's unreasonable to complain about how tough it is to get to Wrigley. They city has done plenty to make it manageable to get to Wrigley for the game. Sorry, if I don't want a stadium in the burbs that almost everyone would have to drive to. I've had my fill of trying to leave Bears games where many drive to the game, drink at the stadium, and drive home. What a safe family atmosphere that is!

 

As far as your other complaints regarding the stadium, I just go there to watch baseball. I'm not really concerned about souvenier shops or snow cone stands.

[Chocolate Milk]

Sorry, I don't mean to get too fired up here, but I really think moving the Cubs would be a big mistake. I personally love Wrigley (obviously). I've been to a few other parks and I think Wrigley is the best place to watch a game. If the Cubs decided to move the team, it's not like I wouldn't be a Cubs fan anymore. I'd still love the Cubs but I love Wrigley too and I don't really see a reason for moving the team.

[Andy]

I live a 90-minute drive from Chicago and would never ever ever ever ever support a Wrigley removal unless we found out it had been built on massive amounts of radon and/or toxic waste - and even then I'd have to think about it.

 

I'm going to 4 games this year and wish I could afford to/have the time to go to more.

[BeerHere]

Sorry, I don't mean to get too fired up here, but I really think moving the Cubs would be a big mistake. I personally love Wrigley (obviously). I've been to a few other parks and I think Wrigley is the best place to watch a game. If the Cubs decided to move the team, it's not like I wouldn't be a Cubs fan anymore. I'd still love the Cubs but I love Wrigley too and I don't really see a reason for moving the team.

 

You have to admit, "The Chicago Cubs of Cary" has a nice ring to it.

 

I'm just sayin.... 8-[

[Chocolate Milk]

Sorry, I don't mean to get too fired up here, but I really think moving the Cubs would be a big mistake. I personally love Wrigley (obviously). I've been to a few other parks and I think Wrigley is the best place to watch a game. If the Cubs decided to move the team, it's not like I wouldn't be a Cubs fan anymore. I'd still love the Cubs but I love Wrigley too and I don't really see a reason for moving the team.

 

You have to admit, "The Chicago Cubs of Cary" has a nice ring to it.

 

I'm just sayin.... 8-[

 

If they have a helicopter shuttle from the roof of my apartment complex to the games, I'm in.

[The Voice of Reason]

Ugh, this thread has me irritated

 

Me too. I agree with you and I think the new owners should move the Cubs from the exciting and always vibrant Wrigleyville area. A place that is assessible from the North, South and West by public transporation and is a 20 minute L ride from a place where millions go to work everyday (The Loop). Screw the people who come in from out of town and want to stay downtown and take in other things one of the greatest cities in the world has to offer in addition to going to a Cubs game. The fact that over 3 million people a year have been coming to Wrigleyville to take in a Cubs game is solely because of the excellent product that has been on the field - no one comes for the great pre and post game experience available in Wrigleyville.

 

The new stadum could be affordably built in the corn fields west of Elgin. That way it would be convenient for people who live in the NW suburbs. Screw the south side cubs fans - they should be White Sox fans anyway, or the northside fans - heck the Yuppies can always rent a car if they want to go to a game bad enough.

 

The new stadium could be surrounded by miles and miles of vibrant parking lots. Who needs friendly neighborhood bars and great atmosphere when you got traffic jams. Outside of the parking lots, a Shaumburg-like feel could be created by adding endless strip malls, Walmarts, Fridays and Bennigans. People would come from all over the world to experience "Suburbville" because it would be a place like no other.

 

Yep, that is what the new owners should do. Take the Cubs out of Wrigleyville and move them to the Suburbs. :roll:

Edited April 6, 2007 by The Voice of Reason

[Chris]

For the record, what's wrong with a parent taking a child to the game and enjoying the conversation of one another?

[BeerHere]

Ugh, this thread has me irritated

 

Me too. I agree with you and I think the new owners should move the Cubs from the exciting and always vibrant Wrigleyville area. A place that is assessible from the North, South and West by public transporation and is a 20 minute L ride from a place where millions go to work everyday (The Loop). Screw the people who come in from out of down and want to stay downtown and take in other things one of the greatest cities in the world has to offer in addition to going to a Cubs game. The fact that over 3 million people a year have been coming to Wrigleyville to take in a Cubs game is solely because of the excellent product that has been on the field - no one comes for the great pre and post game experience available in Wrigleyville.

 

The new stadum could be affordably built in the corn fields west of Elgin. That way it would be convenient for people who live in the NW suburbs. Screw the south side cubs fans - they should be White Sox fans anyway, or the northside fans - heck the Yuppies can always rent a car if they want to go to a game bad enough.

 

The new stadium could be surrounded by miles and miles of vibrant parking lots. Who needs friendly neighborhood bars and great atmosphere when you got traffic jams. Outside of the parking lots, a Shaumburg-like feel could be created by adding endless strip malls, Walmarts, Fridays and Bennigans. People would come from all over the world to experience "Suburbville" because it would be a place like no other.

 

Yep, that is what the new owners should do. Take the Cubs out of Wrigleyville and move them to the Suburbs. :roll:

 

How about another part of the city? I didn't say the suburbs were the only viable option. Is it the Mets or Yankees that want to build a park in downtown New York? Regardless, if other franchises can build a park downtown (or the suburbs) the Cubs should at least look at it. Saying that Wrigley is the only option is being too closed-minded to other, and potentially better, solutions.

[BeerHere]

For the record, what's wrong with a parent taking a child to the game and enjoying the conversation of one another?

 

Seconded.

 

I'll take it one step further as well. Lets say you take your four year old to a ballgame and the people sitting in your section are loud, annoying and full of profanity? Would it be nice to be able to take your son to other parts of the park to enjoy the game?

 

 

It happens

[Chris]

Lets say you take your four year old to a ballgame and the people sitting in your section are loud, annoying and full of profanity? Would it be nice to be able to take your son to other parts of the park to enjoy the game?

 

If that happened I'd first us it as a teaching opportunity. Then I'd go and find us a closer seat to the field. :lol:

[J.R.]

Saying that Wrigley is the only option is being too closed-minded to other, and potentially better, solutions.

 

Not really. A majority of the people who love Wrigley have seen games in other places, and can legitimately say that the new parks aren't even close.

[waffle]

For the record, what's wrong with a parent taking a child to the game and enjoying the conversation of one another?

 

Seconded.

 

I'll take it one step further as well. Lets say you take your four year old to a ballgame and the people sitting in your section are loud, annoying and full of profanity? Would it be nice to be able to take your son to other parts of the park to enjoy the game?

 

 

It happens

 

Man, I go to games in Philly, widely regarded as having the worst fans in the world... and I have almost never had a problem... "son, people drink beer. You daddy drinks beer. Sometimes when you drink beer you act like an idiot. Let this be a lesson to you. Observe and LEARN"

[J.R.]

It happens

 

Get no-beer tickets.

 

Or maybe not.

[BeerHere]

It happens

 

Get no-beer tickets.

 

Or maybe not.

 

 

I do enjoy the suds, and they enjoy me.

[waffle]

Saying that Wrigley is the only option is being too closed-minded to other, and potentially better, solutions.

 

Not really. A majority of the people who love Wrigley have seen games in other places, and can legitimately say that the new parks aren't even close.

 

I have been to probably 1/2 of the newer parks, including the wonders that are Baltimore and Philly. NOT EVEN CLOSE. They dream of being as "baseball" as Wrigley is. It's about baseball, baseball by its nature is a game of history. I also believe it should be watched CAREFULLY, for the nuances that often are the deciding factors in the end...

[BeerHere]

Saying that Wrigley is the only option is being too closed-minded to other, and potentially better, solutions.

 

Not really. A majority of the people who love Wrigley have seen games in other places, and can legitimately say that the new parks aren't even close.

 

I have been to probably 1/2 of the newer parks, including the wonders that are Baltimore and Philly. NOT EVEN CLOSE. They dream of being as "baseball" as Wrigley is. It's about baseball, baseball by its nature is a game of history. I also believe it should be watched CAREFULLY, for the nuances that often are the deciding factors in the end...

I travel for my job and try to see games when I can. Safeco is nice, as is Turner Field, AT&T Park is fantastic. All of which are better places to see a ballgame than Wrigley IMO.

[Andy]

Saying that Wrigley is the only option is being too closed-minded to other, and potentially better, solutions.

 

Not really. A majority of the people who love Wrigley have seen games in other places, and can legitimately say that the new parks aren't even close.

 

I have been to probably 1/2 of the newer parks, including the wonders that are Baltimore and Philly. NOT EVEN CLOSE. They dream of being as "baseball" as Wrigley is. It's about baseball, baseball by its nature is a game of history. I also believe it should be watched CAREFULLY, for the nuances that often are the deciding factors in the end...

I travel for my job and try to see games when I can. Safeco is nice, as is Turner Field, AT&T Park is fantastic. All of which are better places to see a ballgame than Wrigley IMO.

TURNER FIELD???

[Chris]

ouch

[Chris]

Turner is nowhere close to Wrigley. I didn't feel in any way threatened in Chicago like I did in Atlanta.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

My wife really likes Turner. To me it doesn't compare to Wrigley, but Turner has a few things going for it. It has a wide open entry way which makes getting into the park easy. The outfield concourse with the picnic tables, multiple eateries, games, and attractions can be fun for little ones.

 

As I said, personally I perfer Wrigley and it isn't close, but I can see why some would enjoy Turner Field.

[Magnetic Curses]

Saying that Wrigley is the only option is being too closed-minded to other, and potentially better, solutions.

 

Not really. A majority of the people who love Wrigley have seen games in other places, and can legitimately say that the new parks aren't even close.

 

I have been to probably 1/2 of the newer parks, including the wonders that are Baltimore and Philly. NOT EVEN CLOSE. They dream of being as "baseball" as Wrigley is. It's about baseball, baseball by its nature is a game of history. I also believe it should be watched CAREFULLY, for the nuances that often are the deciding factors in the end...

I travel for my job and try to see games when I can. Safeco is nice, as is Turner Field, AT&T Park is fantastic. All of which are better places to see a ballgame than Wrigley IMO.

 

i've been to safeco and coors more times than i've been to wrigley. safeco is a really awesome place to see a game at a great location in SoDo.

 

Coors is state of the art, all amenities and no sewer-smell near bathrooms. it, also is in an awesome location in LoDo Denver, near many many bars. i once saw chip caray walk straight out of coors and right into The Falling Rock Tap House--my favorite bar in the world.

[BeerHere]

Turner is nowhere close to Wrigley. I didn't feel in any way threatened in Chicago like I did in Atlanta.

I've never felt threatened in any ballpark. What happened to you?