Salaries of Baseball Executives

[oldcubsfan]

I love corporations, they've provided us with automobiles, telephones, computers, airplanes, cheap gasoline, cheap food, clean water, and the ability for large amounts of people to gain wage employment. This world would be total shite if it weren't for the advent and proliferation of corporations. They do FAR more measurable good than bad. But since they don't cater to your every whim, and are actually concerned with their own survival, you decide to develop some uninformed prejudice against them.

 

Now you're putting words in my mouth that I never said.

 

I really shouldn't have bothered to jump into this discussion. Yes, I can get into a game as cheaply as $5.00. Yes, I can eat and drink before the game. In that aspect, it's pretty cheap to go to a game.

 

When I go to a game, I do it up right. I can afford it when I do it.

 

Here's to Bud Selig making twice as much next year as he made this year.

 

You sound bitter and somewhat jealous. You seem to think people should make less so you can go to a game " the right way" for less. Life's not fair.

[BigbadB]

You sound bitter and somewhat jealous. You seem to think people should make less so you can go to a game " the right way" for less. Life's not fair.

 

Nope. I'm not bitter at all.

 

Life's been very fair to me, outside of a Chicago Cub World Series anyway.

 

But, thanks for caring. \:D/

[Wilson A2000]

A little off tangent, but how much does Hnedry make? Less than Piniella?

[Sarcastic]

I love corporations, they've provided us with automobiles, telephones, computers, airplanes, cheap gasoline, cheap food, clean water, and the ability for large amounts of people to gain wage employment. This world would be total shite if it weren't for the advent and proliferation of corporations. They do FAR more measurable good than bad. But since they don't cater to your every whim, and are actually concerned with their own survival, you decide to develop some uninformed prejudice against them.

 

Now you're putting words in my mouth that I never said.

 

I really shouldn't have bothered to jump into this discussion. Yes, I can get into a game as cheaply as $5.00. Yes, I can eat and drink before the game. In that aspect, it's pretty cheap to go to a game.

 

When I go to a game, I do it up right. I can afford it when I do it.

 

Here's to Bud Selig making twice as much next year as he made this year.

 

You sound bitter and somewhat jealous. You seem to think people should make less so you can go to a game " the right way" for less. Life's not fair.

 

"Life's not fair" is my favorite cliche, mostly because people use it as if it justified unfairness. That is absolutely hilarious. We do not live in the best of all possible worlds.

 

Honestly, I think the original beef in this discussion, the EI package, is a lot more relevant to this discussion than ticket prices. The mindset behind this deal is what drives people to hate Selig. Even though many people who complain are not directly affected, they feel threatened because this kind of mindset turns them off to the game. People do not want to think about major league baseball as a corporate entity, and this is exactly what this sort of thing does. It isn't the price that angers people. It is the greed. Ultimately, shutting off baseball to more people, both because of the price and because of the degradation of the game, will do nothing positive for the sport, and if Selig was more interested in the game than the profits, he would realize that.

 

Unfortunately, the MLB is a corporation, not a baseball league. I can still enjoy the games, but if Selig isn't careful he'll suck the fun of the game right out along with the dough.

[oldcubsfan]

You sound bitter and somewhat jealous. You seem to think people should make less so you can go to a game " the right way" for less. Life's not fair.

 

Nope. I'm not bitter at all.

 

Life's been very fair to me, outside of a Chicago Cub World Series anyway.

 

But, thanks for caring. \:D/

 

Think how I feel about the unfairness of the Cub drought, I've been going to games since the 50's and had season tckets since 1983!! That's one heck of a lot of losing. LOL!!

[mhuber92211]

The sentiments in this thread are similar to those in rants about gas prices, oil exec salaries, and so forth.

 

In reality all things cost money. The market dictates how much everything costs. Gas is $3 a gallon because people will pay $3 a gallon. Baseball Costs $300 to do it right and Disneyland costs $1000 for 3 days. "If you build it, they will come AND they will pay for it."

 

We are a unique country more then any other. This country is the one in the world that lives and breathes supply side economics and the entertainment industry is a key indicator of how healthy an economy is. Entertainment spend is purely disposable income. The higher the disposable income the healthier the economy, generally.

 

Basically, if an outing to a ballgame costs $300 or a trip to Disney costs $1000 and they are still as popular as ever, then the economy is chugging along.

 

What would be worrisome is when a trip to a ballgame costs $50 and attendance is a ghost town. Then things would be scary.

 

I would rather look at this as a good problem to have.

[BigbadB]

You sound bitter and somewhat jealous. You seem to think people should make less so you can go to a game " the right way" for less. Life's not fair.

 

Nope. I'm not bitter at all.

 

Life's been very fair to me, outside of a Chicago Cub World Series anyway.

 

But, thanks for caring. \:D/

 

Think how I feel about the unfairness of the Cub drought, I've been going to games since the 50's and had season tckets since 1983!! That's one heck of a lot of losing. LOL!!

 

If it makes you feel any better, I can afford the season tickets right next to you. Let me know if they ever become available. :D

 

I didn't make my argument very well, so I have no issue losing and bowing out of this battle. Heck, my issues at a ballpark aren't even the ticket prices. It's the price of a damn hot dog, which is a stadium issue. :D

[oldcubsfan]

You sound bitter and somewhat jealous. You seem to think people should make less so you can go to a game " the right way" for less. Life's not fair.

 

Nope. I'm not bitter at all.

 

Life's been very fair to me, outside of a Chicago Cub World Series anyway.

 

But, thanks for caring. \:D/

 

Think how I feel about the unfairness of the Cub drought, I've been going to games since the 50's and had season tckets since 1983!! That's one heck of a lot of losing. LOL!!

 

If it makes you feel any better, I can afford the season tickets right next to you. Let me know if they ever become available. :D

 

I didn't make my argument very well, so I have no issue losing and bowing out of this battle. Heck, my issues at a ballpark aren't even the ticket prices. It's the price of a damn hot dog, which is a stadium issue. :D

 

It would be far better if they even tasted like hotdogs!!

[BigbadB]

It would be far better if they even tasted like hotdogs!!

 

One thing at a time, here. Baby steps. Let's get these things back down to a buck/buck fifty. In the meantime, you can't still smother 'em in sauerkraut.

[SouthSideRyan]

 

You don't see a problem when it costs nearly $300.00 for a middle income family of 4 to go to a single baseball game (done the right way, of course)?

 

To each their own, I suppose.

 

When done the right way means somehow spending 75 bucks per person at a game, then either I'm spending way too much getting drunk with my kids, or I'm spending way too much on the brats for useless souveniers or great seats that they don't need. The way they calculate the cost for those things is ridiculous.

[seanimal]

I can understand both sides of this argument. Most of the people seem to be angry that the Extra Innings package won't be available for anyone who has their TV piped in by anyone other than DirecTV. This is a valid criticism. In any service industry, if a service is offered for some time and then its availability is restricted, the customers who payed for that service are going to be a bit bothered. However, on the other end of the spectrum, DirecTV payed A LOT to get an exclusive package, and if they're dumb/wise enough to do such a thing, why should the MLB reject it? In all honesty, this deal will probably end up with the EI package being offered by cable, and will allow the MLB channel (whatever they're calling it) to be carried among the cheaper of the cable packages. So in the end, MORE people will be seeing baseball if the MLB can properly wiggle their way through this. Actually a pretty smart business move, IMO.

[sherwood921]

Many, if not most, of those fans are in debt up to their eyeballs. They bought their tickets with credit cards that are maxed out, they pulled up to their parking spot that they are making monster monthly payments to drive, and their jobs don't pay enough to cover all that debt, so the debt keeps going up.

 

And whose fault is that, exactly?

 

Peyton Manning's

[Bixby]

As far as I know these B.S. blackout restrictions came around with Selig in office. I pay $120 a year for MLB.TV and I'm LOCALLY blacked out of games in St. Louis, Kansas City, Arlington, and HOUSTON. Keep in mind I live in Tulsa, Oklahoma which is a whopping 500 mile round trip to the closest park (KC). If I were to go to Houston for a game it would take me nearly 24 hours of driving without sleep.

 

Unbelievable.

 

Does anyone know how I can get ahold of the central office? I need an explanation as to why Houston is local to me. I'd like to know the last time Bud Selig traveled 100 miles to a baseball game without using his private jet. Let alone on my budget.

 

The fans need to overthrow this regime. Period. Nothing good has come from it.

 

And to top it off I was blacked out of a Rangers game which was played in ANAHEIM tonight. How is this justified? This should be criminal.

[papabear58]

Wow, where to start....

 

1) MLB is not evil for wanting money.

2) They are most likely going to destroy the interest (possibly the league) in the game that they have managed to defribulate back into existance by the HR derby that now looks like a hoax because of steroids.

3) I believe this is part of a larger market strategy as another poster said earlier to get the MLB channel on lower tiers and available on other markets.

4) Selig is a money person, but his love of money might be causing irrepriable harm to the game again.

5) I agree with the poster who said that it's the blackout that bothers me. If the game doesn't sell out, you can't watch it on T.V. What if you're working at the time... the Cubs do play a large ammount of day games.

6) In the end, the market will determine the fate of MLB. I just hope it's not as the game fades back into almost obscurity as the fans again refuse to go because they have become turned off by the business side of the game instead of seeing the fun game side of it.

 

I still talk to people every day who say, "I grew up watching baseball and loved it, but after that strike..." or "...this whole steroid thing..." or any other of the negitive things that are going on about baseball and now they are all saying, "Here they go again." I think fans are just way too tired of hearing about the corporate business side of baseball. It's one of the only sports that you do on a regular season by seson basis, and I think that's a league PR issue and one that Selig has failed miserably at working with.

[Derwood]

As far as I know these B.S. blackout restrictions came around with Selig in office. I pay $120 a year for MLB.TV and I'm LOCALLY blacked out of games in St. Louis, Kansas City, Arlington, and HOUSTON. Keep in mind I live in Tulsa, Oklahoma which is a whopping 500 mile round trip to the closest park (KC). If I were to go to Houston for a game it would take me nearly 24 hours of driving without sleep.

 

Unbelievable.

 

Does anyone know how I can get ahold of the central office? I need an explanation as to why Houston is local to me. I'd like to know the last time Bud Selig traveled 100 miles to a baseball game without using his private jet. Let alone on my budget.

 

The fans need to overthrow this regime. Period. Nothing good has come from it.

 

And to top it off I was blacked out of a Rangers game which was played in ANAHEIM tonight. How is this justified? This should be criminal.

 

when I had MLB EI, all Pirates games were blacked out even though I didn't have Fox Sports Pittsburgh. So yeah, I was screwed any time the Cubs played the Bucs and it wasn't on WGN

[J.R.]

The blackout restrictions are derived from a patchwork team territories map based on the lay of the land in 1977. They are ridiculous and outdated, but Selig did not father them.

 

I've been over the strike since November 1994. Bud can cash in all he wants.

[rocket]

isn't olemisscub blacked out of cincinnati games while living in mississippi?

 

the blackout thing definitely needs updated. it should be a top priority. people are paying good money to watch baseball, and they can't watch certain teams. that's stupid.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

If I were to go to Houston for a game it would take me nearly 24 hours of driving without sleep.

 

Are you making a stop in Chicago? Tulsa to Houston is 8 hours max.

[Bixby]

If I were to go to Houston for a game it would take me nearly 24 hours of driving without sleep.

 

Are you making a stop in Chicago? Tulsa to Houston is 8 hours max.

 

No I can't make any long road trips this summer on account of my current car situation. I was only making an example of Houston, I haven't actually don't a 24 hour turnaround baseball trip.

[J.R.]

Here are the MLB territories. Have a good laugh.

 

http://www.maurybrown.com/images/MLBTerritories.jpg

[papabear58]

Here are the MLB territories. Have a good laugh.

 

http://www.maurybrown.com/images/MLBTerritories.jpg

 

Poor Iowa! The don't even have a team and they have like 6 teams blacked out!

[seanimal]

Here are the MLB territories. Have a good laugh.

 

http://www.maurybrown.com/images/MLBTerritories.jpg

 

Good thing I didn't pay for MLB.TV, I would get to see exactly zero games if this map determines which games are blacked out or not. Either way, WGN 720 is free and far more enjoyable than plastering myself to my computer screen to watch choppy, pixelated videos of something that appears like baseball.

[J.R.]

I'm not sure what's more insane — the Reds' hold on Charlotte, or the Marlins' claim on Mobile.

[papabear58]

I'm not sure what's more insane — the Reds' hold on Charlotte, or the Marlins' claim on Mobile.

 

A lot of these boundries seem to be drawn so that the AAA teams are blacked out from the parent team too. It doesn't make much sense to me, but that's the appearance.

[Bixby]

Anybody know how to effectively use proxies to hide my IP address? Or of any other ways around this ridiculousness.