Prior and the 40 man roster

[cubsfan5150]

Does anyone remember what one of the sticking point in Prior's contract was whenever he got drafted? It was that he had to be added to the 40-man roster immediately. The reason for this? My guess is that he was on something then and didn't want to be subjected to testing. At that time, they didn't test for 'roids in the majors, just the minors, and since they've started testing in the majors, Prior's never been the same. I hope I'm wrong, but it certainly makes me wonder.

[CubColtPacer]

Welcome to the forum!

 

To answer your comment, that is a pretty common thing with the top players coming out. For example, Jeff Samardzija just insisted on being on the 40 man immediately as well when he signed a contract with the Cubs earlier this year. It's much more likely that it was designed so that the Cubs would have to bring him up to the majors in a certain period of time than to avoid steroid testing. Besides, I'm pretty sure that even people on the 40 man roster were tested as long as they were playing in the minors, so that wouldn't make any difference anyway.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Way too speculative here. I think these speculative witch hunts are the most tragic outcome of the "steroid era."

[cubsfan5150]

Welcome to the forum!

 

To answer your comment, that is a pretty common thing with the top players coming out. For example, Jeff Samardzija just insisted on being on the 40 man immediately as well when he signed a contract with the Cubs earlier this year. It's much more likely that it was designed so that the Cubs would have to bring him up to the majors in a certain period of time than to avoid steroid testing. Besides, I'm pretty sure that even people on the 40 man roster were tested as long as they were playing in the minors, so that wouldn't make any difference anyway.

 

 

I must not be very well informed then. I haven't seen anyone else demand that, but that's not something that I look for. I do know that if they are on the 40 man roster they are then protected by the MLBPA, and at that time wouldn't have been required to take certain drug tests. I hope that I'm wrong on the whole thing, and that he returns to normal.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Welcome to the forum!

 

To answer your comment, that is a pretty common thing with the top players coming out. For example, Jeff Samardzija just insisted on being on the 40 man immediately as well when he signed a contract with the Cubs earlier this year. It's much more likely that it was designed so that the Cubs would have to bring him up to the majors in a certain period of time than to avoid steroid testing. Besides, I'm pretty sure that even people on the 40 man roster were tested as long as they were playing in the minors, so that wouldn't make any difference anyway.

 

 

I must not be very well informed then. I haven't seen anyone else demand that, but that's not something that I look for. I do know that if they are on the 40 man roster they are then protected by the MLBPA, and at that time wouldn't have been required to take certain drug tests. I hope that I'm wrong on the whole thing, and that he returns to normal.

 

While it's not a normal demand, it has been done previously. It's usually done by college players who feel they are ready or near ready. Since it starts the option clock sooner, teams are reluctant to do it with most players. It would have to be an exceptional talent as Prior was coming out of college. Since exceptional talents with the polish to move rapidly through a system don't come around often, you won't see this demand very often.

[NCCubFan]

Prior was given a multi-year contract. Baseball rules specify that multi-year contracts must be at the major league level; there are no multi-year minor league contracts. And I believe that signing someone to a major league contract requires them to be placed on the 40-man roster.

[Guest]

If he was playing in the minor leagues, he would have been subject to minor league testing. His roster status would not have had anything to do with that.

[RichHillIsABeast]

It must be steroids, b/c it couldn't possibly be the Giles collision or the Hawpe line drive off the elbow.

 

If he was on steroids, he'd probably have healed quicker.

[Dirt Dog Sparly]

Actually if a player is on the 40 they are not tested. I watched a player on Pitts 40 man playing AAA telling the pee man to go away using unfriendly language.

 

The MiLB testing people came in with a list of who they could and who they couldnt test. Everyone else lined up outside the facilities in the clubhouse.

[Guest]

Actually if a player is on the 40 they are not tested. I watched a player on Pitts 40 man playing AAA telling the pee man to go away using unfriendly language.

 

The MiLB testing people came in with a list of who they could and who they couldnt test. Everyone else lined up outside the facilities in the clubhouse.

Interesting and new news to me.

 

Regardless, the point remains that many players sign major league contracts. In fact, most early first round, college draft picks that expect a fast rise to the majors will sign a major league contract.

 

Heck, Andrew Miller had a stipulation in his deal that he'd get a september call up the same season in which he was drafted.

[BigbadB]

Yeah, this is just a conspiracy theory. Whether Prior or any other player has or hasn't taken steroids, the major league contract had zero to do with steroids. Were they even testing for steroids when Prior was drafted?

 

I don't think so. It certainly wasn't the spoken word then like it is now.

[LeftCoastCubFan]

Prior was given a multi-year contract. Baseball rules specify that multi-year contracts must be at the major league level; there are no multi-year minor league contracts. And I believe that signing someone to a major league contract requires them to be placed on the 40-man roster.

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[Guest]

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