3/8ST-Cubs (Miller) v Pads (Maddux) 2:05CT, XM177

[BeerHere]

Felix Peya

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Why is it an earned run when there were 2 outs and an error?

 

He gave up a homer with the bases juiced

 

Izzy with another hit

 

That's my understanding, please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

As CubColt(eww)Pacer pointed out, the MLB.com box doesn't have an Izturis error, so they have all 4 runs as earned.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Why is it an earned run when there were 2 outs and an error?

 

He gave up a homer with the bases juiced

 

Izzy with another hit

 

so if the inning would have continued and more runs scored, would they be considered earned, as well?

 

After the HR, because the HR is on Woody.

[BeerHere]

Why is it an earned run when there were 2 outs and an error?

 

He gave up a homer with the bases juiced

 

Izzy with another hit

 

That's my understanding, please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

As CubColt(eww)Pacer pointed out, the MLB.com box doesn't have an Izturis error, so they have all 4 runs as earned.

 

You are correct, the boxscore is wrong.

[98navigator]

 

What happened to Kinney?

 

http://www.noelheikkinen.com/noel/images/Kenny.gif

 

They killed Kinney.

 

:lol: Nice

[sweetpeteman]

Pie AB, Iz on 2nd, 2 outs:

 

Pitch 1: Strike

Pitch 2: Foul

Pitch 3: Ball

Pitch 4: 4 - 3

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Why is it an earned run when there were 2 outs and an error?

 

He gave up a homer with the bases juiced

 

Izzy with another hit

 

That's my understanding, please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

As CubColt(eww)Pacer pointed out, the MLB.com box doesn't have an Izturis error, so they have all 4 runs as earned.

 

You are correct, the boxscore is wrong.

 

I always go under the assumption that I am right. 8-)

[sweetpeteman]

Top 6

 

Linebrink in to pitch

Huffman in at 3rd

Chevalla in center

 

Blanco: fly out to center

Izturis: single

Anderson: sac bunt, Iz to 2nd

Pie: 4 - 3

 

5 - 5

[Lefty]

Am I reading something wrong. Wood has 4 runs on 1 hit, one error and no BB?

 

HBP, BB, E6, HR/2out = 4R/1ER

 

Did they change the rules of scoring? When I was a kid, all these runs would have been unearned because without the error the inning would have been over. I'm not saying it makes sense, but that's the way it was.

[MustangMike]

Pie AB, Iz on 2nd, 2 outs:

 

Pitch 1: Strike

Pitch 2: Foul

Pitch 3: Ball

Pitch 4: 4 - 3

 

CUT HIM!

[CaliforniaRaisin]

                       1  2  3   4  5  6   7  8  9   R  H  E
                      -  -  -   -  -  -   -  -  -   -  -  -
 CHICAGO CUBS         0  2  0   3  0  0             5 10  1
 SAN DIEGO            0  1  0   4  0                5  8  2    (MID 6)

Cubs              IP  H  R ER BB SO HBP HR
-------------------------------------------
Wade Miller      3.0  6  1  1  2  2  0   1
Kerry Wood       1.0  1  4  0  0  3  1   1
Jason Anderson   1.0  1  0  0  0  2  0   0  

    HOME RUNS:  SD - G. BLUM (OFF MILLER), T. SLEDGE (GS, OFF WOOD)
    DOUBLES: B. COATS, B. DOPIRAK
    ERROR: C. IZTURIS

 

ETA: Make all of Woody's runs unearned.

Edited March 8, 2007 by CaliforniaRaisin

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Am I reading something wrong. Wood has 4 runs on 1 hit, one error and no BB?

 

HBP, BB, E6, HR/2out = 4R/1ER

 

Did they change the rules of scoring? When I was a kid, all these runs would have been unearned because without the error the inning would have been over. I'm not saying it makes sense, but that's the way it was.

 

Haha, anyone have a clue? I always worked under the assumption the HR and everything after it is earned.

[cheapseats]

Pie AB, Iz on 2nd, 2 outs:

 

Pitch 1: Strike

Pitch 2: Foul

Pitch 3: Ball

Pitch 4: 4 - 3

 

CUT HIM!

 

Yeah, Pierre could have done the same thing but in fewer pitches.

[woodchip2153]

Why is it an earned run when there were 2 outs and an error?

 

He gave up a homer with the bases juiced

 

Izzy with another hit

 

so if the inning would have continued and more runs scored, would they be considered earned, as well?

 

After the HR, because the HR is on Woody.

 

Ok, I assumed once there were two outs and there was an error all runs scored in that inning from that point were unearned. Thanks.

[BeerHere]

Am I reading something wrong. Wood has 4 runs on 1 hit, one error and no BB?

 

HBP, BB, E6, HR/2out = 4R/1ER

 

Did they change the rules of scoring? When I was a kid, all these runs would have been unearned because without the error the inning would have been over. I'm not saying it makes sense, but that's the way it was.

 

Haha, anyone have a clue? I always worked under the assumption the HR and everything on is earned.

 

I think the baserunner is unearned, but the hitter is earned regardless of the timing of the error.

[Guest]

                       1  2  3   4  5  6   7  8  9   R  H  E
                      -  -  -   -  -  -   -  -  -   -  -  -
 CHICAGO CUBS         0  2  0   3  0                5  9  1
 SAN DIEGO            0  1  0   4  0                5  8  2    (END 5)

Cubs              IP  H  R ER BB SO HBP HR
-------------------------------------------
Wade Miller      3.0  6  1  1  2  2  0   1
Kerry Wood       1.0  1  4  1  0  3  1   1
Jason Anderson   1.0  1  0  0  0  2  0   0  

    HOME RUNS:  SD - G. BLUM (OFF MILLER), T. SLEDGE (GS, OFF WOOD)
    DOUBLES: B. COATS, B. DOPIRAK
    ERROR: C. IZTURIS

That's not an earned run for Woody as the hr was hit when there should have been three outs in the inning.

[BeerHere]

Pie AB, Iz on 2nd, 2 outs:

 

Pitch 1: Strike

Pitch 2: Foul

Pitch 3: Ball

Pitch 4: 4 - 3

 

CUT HIM!

 

Yeah, Pierre could have done the same thing but in fewer pitches.

 

Don't forget a fake bunt in there too.

[moorecg]

Kinney felt "tingling" in his elbow...needs ligament replacement surgery.

[sweetpeteman]

I'll need someone to take over after the 7th

[CaliforniaRaisin]

                       1  2  3   4  5  6   7  8  9   R  H  E
                      -  -  -   -  -  -   -  -  -   -  -  -
 CHICAGO CUBS         0  2  0   3  0                5  9  1
 SAN DIEGO            0  1  0   4  0                5  8  2    (END 5)

Cubs              IP  H  R ER BB SO HBP HR
-------------------------------------------
Wade Miller      3.0  6  1  1  2  2  0   1
Kerry Wood       1.0  1  4  1  0  3  1   1
Jason Anderson   1.0  1  0  0  0  2  0   0  

    HOME RUNS:  SD - G. BLUM (OFF MILLER), T. SLEDGE (GS, OFF WOOD)
    DOUBLES: B. COATS, B. DOPIRAK
    ERROR: C. IZTURIS

That's not an earned run for Woody as the hr was hit when there should have been three outs in the inning.

 

That makes sense...

[woodchip2153]

Now I'm confused. Is Tim correct?

[sweetpeteman]

Bottom 6:

 

Anderson still pitching

Soto catching

Perez, T as SS

 

McAnulty AB:

 

Pitch 1: Ball

Pitch 2: Foul

Pitch 3: Strike

Pitch 4: Ball

Pitch 5: Ball

Pitch 6: Foul

Pitch 7: Ball

[98navigator]

caught stealing Edited March 8, 2007 by 98navigator

[Danny82]

Why is it an earned run when there were 2 outs and an error?

 

He gave up a homer with the bases juiced

 

Izzy with another hit

 

Woodchip is right. Any runs scored after there are two outs and there has been an error (where the guy didn't later get out) should be unearned.

[BeerHere]

Kinney felt "tingling" in his elbow...needs ligament replacement surgery.

 

Poor kid. Never want to see anyone get hurt, even Cardinals. I hope he can come back.