The Bears Offseason Thread

[David]

Trib[/url]"]In somewhat of a surprise, Mark Anderson, whose 12 sacks earned him runner-up honors as defensive rookie of the year, has been installed as the starter at the right end spot that Alex Brown has occupied the last 4 1/2 seasons.

 

Brown started 73 of the Bears' last 74 games, including all 16 in each of the last four seasons, two of which ended with his selection as a second alternate to the Pro Bowl.

 

Friday, however, found him in a rotation as the backup to both Anderson and left end Adewale Ogunleye.

 

"I was practicing both [positions] so I'm both," Brown said to a question as to whether he is a right end or left end. "Hopefully, I can learn both and play wherever it ends up after training camp."

..........

The Bears mixed and matched defensive backs, with Brown paired with newcomer Adam Archuleta at times as well as 2006 starter Danieal Manning and Chris Harris. With Brown back, the Bears worked Manning occasionally at cornerback.

 

"I wouldn't say [Manning moving to corner is] permanent right now," Smith said. "Danieal is a versatile athlete and in the off-season you want to take a look at players in different positions. He could easily be our most skilled defensive back."

 

I wonder if Alex had a heads up about this...perhaps why he's seeking a trade.

 

I forget it it was Lawrence Holmes or Zack Zademan that was saying how good Hester looked out there catching passes, but admitted it will be different when there's contact.

 

I still prefer Lovie's style of simply giving the starting job to the high performers, at least in many cases.

 

We've been on the other side of this coin. The Dick Jauron / Dave Waanstedt style of "you're the veteran, you get the job unless you're injured" is B.S. and quite simply does not work very often.

 

If Alex Brown can't handle it, then he should play better. He's a guy who has never really realized his full potential IMHO anyway. Mark Anderson flat out played better than Alex last year.

 

Agreed, but then how do you explain Alex Brown behind Ogunleye. I thought Wale was in for a big year up until the Seattle game. He got hurt and didn't do anything the rest of the year. Alex was better against the run, had more sacks, forced fumbles, had 2 picks.

 

Wait. What do you mean? Alex & Wale don't play the same position.

 

Alex is working out as a backup on both sides.

[Soul]

Trib[/url]"]In somewhat of a surprise, Mark Anderson, whose 12 sacks earned him runner-up honors as defensive rookie of the year, has been installed as the starter at the right end spot that Alex Brown has occupied the last 4 1/2 seasons.

 

Brown started 73 of the Bears' last 74 games, including all 16 in each of the last four seasons, two of which ended with his selection as a second alternate to the Pro Bowl.

 

Friday, however, found him in a rotation as the backup to both Anderson and left end Adewale Ogunleye.

 

"I was practicing both [positions] so I'm both," Brown said to a question as to whether he is a right end or left end. "Hopefully, I can learn both and play wherever it ends up after training camp."

..........

The Bears mixed and matched defensive backs, with Brown paired with newcomer Adam Archuleta at times as well as 2006 starter Danieal Manning and Chris Harris. With Brown back, the Bears worked Manning occasionally at cornerback.

 

"I wouldn't say [Manning moving to corner is] permanent right now," Smith said. "Danieal is a versatile athlete and in the off-season you want to take a look at players in different positions. He could easily be our most skilled defensive back."

 

I wonder if Alex had a heads up about this...perhaps why he's seeking a trade.

 

I forget it it was Lawrence Holmes or Zack Zademan that was saying how good Hester looked out there catching passes, but admitted it will be different when there's contact.

 

I still prefer Lovie's style of simply giving the starting job to the high performers, at least in many cases.

 

We've been on the other side of this coin. The Dick Jauron / Dave Waanstedt style of "you're the veteran, you get the job unless you're injured" is B.S. and quite simply does not work very often.

 

If Alex Brown can't handle it, then he should play better. He's a guy who has never really realized his full potential IMHO anyway. Mark Anderson flat out played better than Alex last year.

 

Agreed, but then how do you explain Alex Brown behind Ogunleye. I thought Wale was in for a big year up until the Seattle game. He got hurt and didn't do anything the rest of the year. Alex was better against the run, had more sacks, forced fumbles, had 2 picks.

 

Wait. What do you mean? Alex & Wale don't play the same position.

 

Alex is working out as a backup on both sides.

 

He's still a primary on the other side, where he is being outperformed. It would be silly to give him the starting job over Wale based on his performance on the other side of the line. Doesn't work that way.

[David]

I'm not saying it does. Just clearing up what I thought he was saying.

[Jon]

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Rashied Davis

 

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Mark Anderson with Brown

[Guest]

Ohh, I like that hat that Lovies is wearing.

[Jon]

Trib[/url]"]Instead of Hester deep alone, Danieal Manning is lining up alongside Hester in a two-returner scheme. With teams kicking away from Hester last season and expected to do more of that this season, the plan is to have Manning in place rather than forcing Hester to run to a side to get the ball before heading upfield.

 

"We're going to take Devin and have him cover more north and south and be able to get those short kicks, rather than have him go east and west," special teams coordinator Dave Toub said. "If the ball's kicked to Danieal, he'll be able to field it as well. And the short kicks Devin will be able to field better because he doesn't have to worry about going to the other side of the field."

 

Rashied Davis, who returned 32 kickoffs last season an average of 23.5 yards, also worked in the tandem-return scheme. But the primary goal is to bring Hester and Manning, two of the team's fastest players, to kicks and moving toward goal lines instead of sidelines.

I'd imagine that the Bears are going to have to readjust the return strategy every few weeks in order to keep up with what the opposing teams are doing, but hopefully Toub is up to the challenge.

[rawaction]

Trib[/url]"]Instead of Hester deep alone, Danieal Manning is lining up alongside Hester in a two-returner scheme. With teams kicking away from Hester last season and expected to do more of that this season, the plan is to have Manning in place rather than forcing Hester to run to a side to get the ball before heading upfield.

 

"We're going to take Devin and have him cover more north and south and be able to get those short kicks, rather than have him go east and west," special teams coordinator Dave Toub said. "If the ball's kicked to Danieal, he'll be able to field it as well. And the short kicks Devin will be able to field better because he doesn't have to worry about going to the other side of the field."

 

Rashied Davis, who returned 32 kickoffs last season an average of 23.5 yards, also worked in the tandem-return scheme. But the primary goal is to bring Hester and Manning, two of the team's fastest players, to kicks and moving toward goal lines instead of sidelines.

I'd imagine that the Bears are going to have to readjust the return strategy every few weeks in order to keep up with what the opposing teams are doing, but hopefully Toub is up to the challenge.

 

Eh, I don't like it. If it ain't broke.....

 

I think Hester benefitted from having to go East to west. You get your returner moving (especially one this dangerous) and it causes the other team to possibly leave their lanes to chase the ball. If a team kicks it short, just let AP get a few yards and be happy with the field position. If you have someone else back there, there's no reason to kick the ball to Hester. You can kick it directly to Manning, who is fast, but odds are he won't be close to the returner that Hester is. I do imagine though, that the Bears will stack both returners and keep them there until the ball is kicked, which should at least keep them from kicking at Manning consistently.

[Jon]

When they were kicking it away from Hester towards the end of the season (and there's no reason why they would kick it to him this year), things didn't often go that smoothly. They need a better gameplan, because teams are going to figure out the obvious and realize that Hester can beat them.

[Butterscup1679666578]

I don't mind it, it should decrease the number of muffed balls and it could set up some nifty reverses to Hester

[Banedon]

Ohh, I like that hat that Lovies is wearing.

 

I'm pretty sure that it was available last season too...

[Soul]

Ohh, I like that hat that Lovies is wearing.

 

I'm pretty sure that it was available last season too...

 

It's one of the few styles I don't have. I'll probably pick it up at some point.

[tfarks]

I posted on the Bears' board why I don't like the idea. Manning is a good returner, that was one of his plus talents when being drafted however Hester is so good at it he never got the opportunity.

As you can see from the last year the blocking scheme was perfect with 1 returner. I would rather see AP as the guy in front of Hester because he is likely to be the 1st blocker for Hester on any given return. If Manning is back there he takes away opportunities from the best in the game not to mention is a horrible blocker, he can barely tackle and hes a safety.

 

Only time Manning should be back there is when he is back there alone giving Hester a break, I imagine he may need one here or there considering he will be used on offense and punt returns still.

[Soul]

I posted on the Bears' board why I don't like the idea. Manning is a good returner, that was one of his plus talents when being drafted however Hester is so good at it he never got the opportunity.

As you can see from the last year the blocking scheme was perfect with 1 returner. I would rather see AP as the guy in front of Hester because he is likely to be the 1st blocker for Hester on any given return. If Manning is back there he takes away opportunities from the best in the game not to mention is a horrible blocker, he can barely tackle and hes a safety.

 

Only time Manning should be back there is when he is back there alone giving Hester a break, I imagine he may need one here or there considering he will be used on offense and punt returns still.

 

Meh, if they try to kick away from Hester, we counter with a 2-man return formation. It gives us another option if we want to use it. Never a bad thing.

[tfarks]

I posted on the Bears' board why I don't like the idea. Manning is a good returner, that was one of his plus talents when being drafted however Hester is so good at it he never got the opportunity.

As you can see from the last year the blocking scheme was perfect with 1 returner. I would rather see AP as the guy in front of Hester because he is likely to be the 1st blocker for Hester on any given return. If Manning is back there he takes away opportunities from the best in the game not to mention is a horrible blocker, he can barely tackle and hes a safety.

 

Only time Manning should be back there is when he is back there alone giving Hester a break, I imagine he may need one here or there considering he will be used on offense and punt returns still.

 

Meh, if they try to kick away from Hester, we counter with a 2-man return formation. It gives us another option if we want to use it. Never a bad thing.

 

Did you ever recall Hester having trouble getting to a ball? If you get kicked away from on the KO it usually goes out of bounds...

However the Bears' special teams are always so well executed I'm sure whatever they throw out there will work, I just like the idea of Hester touching the ball as many times as possible. He is the most explosive runner in the league, that includes hype-boy Reggie Bush.

[Soul]

I posted on the Bears' board why I don't like the idea. Manning is a good returner, that was one of his plus talents when being drafted however Hester is so good at it he never got the opportunity.

As you can see from the last year the blocking scheme was perfect with 1 returner. I would rather see AP as the guy in front of Hester because he is likely to be the 1st blocker for Hester on any given return. If Manning is back there he takes away opportunities from the best in the game not to mention is a horrible blocker, he can barely tackle and hes a safety.

 

Only time Manning should be back there is when he is back there alone giving Hester a break, I imagine he may need one here or there considering he will be used on offense and punt returns still.

 

Meh, if they try to kick away from Hester, we counter with a 2-man return formation. It gives us another option if we want to use it. Never a bad thing.

 

Did you ever recall Hester having trouble getting to a ball? If you get kicked away from on the KO it usually goes out of bounds...

However the Bears' special teams are always so well executed I'm sure whatever they throw out there will work, I just like the idea of Hester touching the ball as many times as possible. He is the most explosive runner in the league, that includes hype-boy Reggie Bush.

 

There were several times when Hester couldn't get to a ball. Teams kicked away from him quite a bit in the 2nd half of the season. He didn't get to all those. And frankly, I don't want him stretching to get to a ball kicked away from him, then fumbling because of it.

[tfarks]

I posted on the Bears' board why I don't like the idea. Manning is a good returner, that was one of his plus talents when being drafted however Hester is so good at it he never got the opportunity.

As you can see from the last year the blocking scheme was perfect with 1 returner. I would rather see AP as the guy in front of Hester because he is likely to be the 1st blocker for Hester on any given return. If Manning is back there he takes away opportunities from the best in the game not to mention is a horrible blocker, he can barely tackle and hes a safety.

 

Only time Manning should be back there is when he is back there alone giving Hester a break, I imagine he may need one here or there considering he will be used on offense and punt returns still.

 

Meh, if they try to kick away from Hester, we counter with a 2-man return formation. It gives us another option if we want to use it. Never a bad thing.

 

Did you ever recall Hester having trouble getting to a ball? If you get kicked away from on the KO it usually goes out of bounds...

However the Bears' special teams are always so well executed I'm sure whatever they throw out there will work, I just like the idea of Hester touching the ball as many times as possible. He is the most explosive runner in the league, that includes hype-boy Reggie Bush.

 

There were several times when Hester couldn't get to a ball. Teams kicked away from him quite a bit in the 2nd half of the season. He didn't get to all those. And frankly, I don't want him stretching to get to a ball kicked away from him, then fumbling because of it.

 

If you could be more specific that would be fantastic cause I watched every game last year and can't recall one example. There is just way too much hang time on a Kickoff for someone to not get to a ball, especially someone with 4.3 speed.

[Soul]

I posted on the Bears' board why I don't like the idea. Manning is a good returner, that was one of his plus talents when being drafted however Hester is so good at it he never got the opportunity.

As you can see from the last year the blocking scheme was perfect with 1 returner. I would rather see AP as the guy in front of Hester because he is likely to be the 1st blocker for Hester on any given return. If Manning is back there he takes away opportunities from the best in the game not to mention is a horrible blocker, he can barely tackle and hes a safety.

 

Only time Manning should be back there is when he is back there alone giving Hester a break, I imagine he may need one here or there considering he will be used on offense and punt returns still.

 

Meh, if they try to kick away from Hester, we counter with a 2-man return formation. It gives us another option if we want to use it. Never a bad thing.

 

Did you ever recall Hester having trouble getting to a ball? If you get kicked away from on the KO it usually goes out of bounds...

However the Bears' special teams are always so well executed I'm sure whatever they throw out there will work, I just like the idea of Hester touching the ball as many times as possible. He is the most explosive runner in the league, that includes hype-boy Reggie Bush.

 

There were several times when Hester couldn't get to a ball. Teams kicked away from him quite a bit in the 2nd half of the season. He didn't get to all those. And frankly, I don't want him stretching to get to a ball kicked away from him, then fumbling because of it.

 

If you could be more specific that would be fantastic cause I watched every game last year and can't recall one example. There is just way too much hang time on a Kickoff for someone to not get to a ball, especially someone with 4.3 speed.

 

Re-watch the Super Bowl? After the first kick I don't think Hester was able to cleanly get to many of those kicks. That's the blueprint teams will follow next year.

 

Anyway, what's your problem with adding options in May mini-camp?

[tfarks]

I posted on the Bears' board why I don't like the idea. Manning is a good returner, that was one of his plus talents when being drafted however Hester is so good at it he never got the opportunity.

As you can see from the last year the blocking scheme was perfect with 1 returner. I would rather see AP as the guy in front of Hester because he is likely to be the 1st blocker for Hester on any given return. If Manning is back there he takes away opportunities from the best in the game not to mention is a horrible blocker, he can barely tackle and hes a safety.

 

Only time Manning should be back there is when he is back there alone giving Hester a break, I imagine he may need one here or there considering he will be used on offense and punt returns still.

 

Meh, if they try to kick away from Hester, we counter with a 2-man return formation. It gives us another option if we want to use it. Never a bad thing.

 

Did you ever recall Hester having trouble getting to a ball? If you get kicked away from on the KO it usually goes out of bounds...

However the Bears' special teams are always so well executed I'm sure whatever they throw out there will work, I just like the idea of Hester touching the ball as many times as possible. He is the most explosive runner in the league, that includes hype-boy Reggie Bush.

 

There were several times when Hester couldn't get to a ball. Teams kicked away from him quite a bit in the 2nd half of the season. He didn't get to all those. And frankly, I don't want him stretching to get to a ball kicked away from him, then fumbling because of it.

 

If you could be more specific that would be fantastic cause I watched every game last year and can't recall one example. There is just way too much hang time on a Kickoff for someone to not get to a ball, especially someone with 4.3 speed.

 

Re-watch the Super Bowl? After the first kick I don't think Hester was able to cleanly get to many of those kicks. That's the blueprint teams will follow next year.

 

Anyway, what's your problem with adding options in May mini-camp?

 

Wrong. Hester couldn't get to the kicks in the Super Bowl because they were short. Vanderjagt didn't have a super kick that could get the ball past Hester, the only time he tried that Hester took it to the house. 2 returners would not help this situation whatsoever, in fact it would weaken the return because there is one less blocker on a short kick.

 

Also, I said I don't like it, not that I have a problem with it. Let me reiterate what I said earlier, the Bears special teams are an amazing unit and I'm sure they can execute pretty much whatever option they choose.

[Butterscup1679666578]

^^^(Pssst...Vanderjagt wasnt the kicker)

[tfarks]

^^^(Pssst...Vanderjagt wasnt the kicker)

 

Haha, habit still. Vinatieri.

[Soul]

I posted on the Bears' board why I don't like the idea. Manning is a good returner, that was one of his plus talents when being drafted however Hester is so good at it he never got the opportunity.

As you can see from the last year the blocking scheme was perfect with 1 returner. I would rather see AP as the guy in front of Hester because he is likely to be the 1st blocker for Hester on any given return. If Manning is back there he takes away opportunities from the best in the game not to mention is a horrible blocker, he can barely tackle and hes a safety.

 

Only time Manning should be back there is when he is back there alone giving Hester a break, I imagine he may need one here or there considering he will be used on offense and punt returns still.

 

Meh, if they try to kick away from Hester, we counter with a 2-man return formation. It gives us another option if we want to use it. Never a bad thing.

 

Did you ever recall Hester having trouble getting to a ball? If you get kicked away from on the KO it usually goes out of bounds...

However the Bears' special teams are always so well executed I'm sure whatever they throw out there will work, I just like the idea of Hester touching the ball as many times as possible. He is the most explosive runner in the league, that includes hype-boy Reggie Bush.

 

There were several times when Hester couldn't get to a ball. Teams kicked away from him quite a bit in the 2nd half of the season. He didn't get to all those. And frankly, I don't want him stretching to get to a ball kicked away from him, then fumbling because of it.

 

If you could be more specific that would be fantastic cause I watched every game last year and can't recall one example. There is just way too much hang time on a Kickoff for someone to not get to a ball, especially someone with 4.3 speed.

 

Re-watch the Super Bowl? After the first kick I don't think Hester was able to cleanly get to many of those kicks. That's the blueprint teams will follow next year.

 

Anyway, what's your problem with adding options in May mini-camp?

 

Wrong. Hester couldn't get to the kicks in the Super Bowl because they were short. Vanderjagt didn't have a super kick that could get the ball past Hester, the only time he tried that Hester took it to the house. 2 returners would not help this situation whatsoever, in fact it would weaken the return because there is one less blocker on a short kick.

 

Also, I said I don't like it, not that I have a problem with it. Let me reiterate what I said earlier, the Bears special teams are an amazing unit and I'm sure they can execute pretty much whatever option they choose.

 

You asked when Hester wasn't able to get to a kick. He wasn't able to in the Super Bowl. You even confirmed it with your own words, as you can see in the bolded text. How is that.....wrong?

[tfarks]

I posted on the Bears' board why I don't like the idea. Manning is a good returner, that was one of his plus talents when being drafted however Hester is so good at it he never got the opportunity.

As you can see from the last year the blocking scheme was perfect with 1 returner. I would rather see AP as the guy in front of Hester because he is likely to be the 1st blocker for Hester on any given return. If Manning is back there he takes away opportunities from the best in the game not to mention is a horrible blocker, he can barely tackle and hes a safety.

 

Only time Manning should be back there is when he is back there alone giving Hester a break, I imagine he may need one here or there considering he will be used on offense and punt returns still.

 

Meh, if they try to kick away from Hester, we counter with a 2-man return formation. It gives us another option if we want to use it. Never a bad thing.

 

Did you ever recall Hester having trouble getting to a ball? If you get kicked away from on the KO it usually goes out of bounds...

However the Bears' special teams are always so well executed I'm sure whatever they throw out there will work, I just like the idea of Hester touching the ball as many times as possible. He is the most explosive runner in the league, that includes hype-boy Reggie Bush.

 

There were several times when Hester couldn't get to a ball. Teams kicked away from him quite a bit in the 2nd half of the season. He didn't get to all those. And frankly, I don't want him stretching to get to a ball kicked away from him, then fumbling because of it.

 

If you could be more specific that would be fantastic cause I watched every game last year and can't recall one example. There is just way too much hang time on a Kickoff for someone to not get to a ball, especially someone with 4.3 speed.

 

Re-watch the Super Bowl? After the first kick I don't think Hester was able to cleanly get to many of those kicks. That's the blueprint teams will follow next year.

 

Anyway, what's your problem with adding options in May mini-camp?

 

Wrong. Hester couldn't get to the kicks in the Super Bowl because they were short. Vanderjagt didn't have a super kick that could get the ball past Hester, the only time he tried that Hester took it to the house. 2 returners would not help this situation whatsoever, in fact it would weaken the return because there is one less blocker on a short kick.

 

Also, I said I don't like it, not that I have a problem with it. Let me reiterate what I said earlier, the Bears special teams are an amazing unit and I'm sure they can execute pretty much whatever option they choose.

 

You asked when Hester wasn't able to get to a kick. He wasn't able to in the Super Bowl. You even confirmed it with your own words, as you can see in the bolded text. How is that.....wrong?

 

Are you being serious? Using common sense should have told you when was he able to not get to it on a normal deep kickoff then. Quit wasting my time. Or if you would like to enlighten us on having another deep return man could help the short kick off situation, go ahead.

[Soul]

I posted on the Bears' board why I don't like the idea. Manning is a good returner, that was one of his plus talents when being drafted however Hester is so good at it he never got the opportunity.

As you can see from the last year the blocking scheme was perfect with 1 returner. I would rather see AP as the guy in front of Hester because he is likely to be the 1st blocker for Hester on any given return. If Manning is back there he takes away opportunities from the best in the game not to mention is a horrible blocker, he can barely tackle and hes a safety.

 

Only time Manning should be back there is when he is back there alone giving Hester a break, I imagine he may need one here or there considering he will be used on offense and punt returns still.

 

Meh, if they try to kick away from Hester, we counter with a 2-man return formation. It gives us another option if we want to use it. Never a bad thing.

 

Did you ever recall Hester having trouble getting to a ball? If you get kicked away from on the KO it usually goes out of bounds...

However the Bears' special teams are always so well executed I'm sure whatever they throw out there will work, I just like the idea of Hester touching the ball as many times as possible. He is the most explosive runner in the league, that includes hype-boy Reggie Bush.

 

There were several times when Hester couldn't get to a ball. Teams kicked away from him quite a bit in the 2nd half of the season. He didn't get to all those. And frankly, I don't want him stretching to get to a ball kicked away from him, then fumbling because of it.

 

If you could be more specific that would be fantastic cause I watched every game last year and can't recall one example. There is just way too much hang time on a Kickoff for someone to not get to a ball, especially someone with 4.3 speed.

 

Re-watch the Super Bowl? After the first kick I don't think Hester was able to cleanly get to many of those kicks. That's the blueprint teams will follow next year.

 

Anyway, what's your problem with adding options in May mini-camp?

 

Wrong. Hester couldn't get to the kicks in the Super Bowl because they were short. Vanderjagt didn't have a super kick that could get the ball past Hester, the only time he tried that Hester took it to the house. 2 returners would not help this situation whatsoever, in fact it would weaken the return because there is one less blocker on a short kick.

 

Also, I said I don't like it, not that I have a problem with it. Let me reiterate what I said earlier, the Bears special teams are an amazing unit and I'm sure they can execute pretty much whatever option they choose.

 

You asked when Hester wasn't able to get to a kick. He wasn't able to in the Super Bowl. You even confirmed it with your own words, as you can see in the bolded text. How is that.....wrong?

 

Are you being serious? Using common sense should have told you when was he able to not get to it on a normal deep kickoff then. Quit wasting my time. Or if you would like to enlighten us on having another deep return man could help the short kick off situation, go ahead.

 

I'm wasting your time? Give me a break. Remind me to never attempt to engage in a rational discussion with you again. We're done here.

[tfarks]

I posted on the Bears' board why I don't like the idea. Manning is a good returner, that was one of his plus talents when being drafted however Hester is so good at it he never got the opportunity.

As you can see from the last year the blocking scheme was perfect with 1 returner. I would rather see AP as the guy in front of Hester because he is likely to be the 1st blocker for Hester on any given return. If Manning is back there he takes away opportunities from the best in the game not to mention is a horrible blocker, he can barely tackle and hes a safety.

 

Only time Manning should be back there is when he is back there alone giving Hester a break, I imagine he may need one here or there considering he will be used on offense and punt returns still.

 

Meh, if they try to kick away from Hester, we counter with a 2-man return formation. It gives us another option if we want to use it. Never a bad thing.

 

Did you ever recall Hester having trouble getting to a ball? If you get kicked away from on the KO it usually goes out of bounds...

However the Bears' special teams are always so well executed I'm sure whatever they throw out there will work, I just like the idea of Hester touching the ball as many times as possible. He is the most explosive runner in the league, that includes hype-boy Reggie Bush.

 

There were several times when Hester couldn't get to a ball. Teams kicked away from him quite a bit in the 2nd half of the season. He didn't get to all those. And frankly, I don't want him stretching to get to a ball kicked away from him, then fumbling because of it.

 

If you could be more specific that would be fantastic cause I watched every game last year and can't recall one example. There is just way too much hang time on a Kickoff for someone to not get to a ball, especially someone with 4.3 speed.

 

Re-watch the Super Bowl? After the first kick I don't think Hester was able to cleanly get to many of those kicks. That's the blueprint teams will follow next year.

 

Anyway, what's your problem with adding options in May mini-camp?

 

Wrong. Hester couldn't get to the kicks in the Super Bowl because they were short. Vanderjagt didn't have a super kick that could get the ball past Hester, the only time he tried that Hester took it to the house. 2 returners would not help this situation whatsoever, in fact it would weaken the return because there is one less blocker on a short kick.

 

Also, I said I don't like it, not that I have a problem with it. Let me reiterate what I said earlier, the Bears special teams are an amazing unit and I'm sure they can execute pretty much whatever option they choose.

 

You asked when Hester wasn't able to get to a kick. He wasn't able to in the Super Bowl. You even confirmed it with your own words, as you can see in the bolded text. How is that.....wrong?

 

Are you being serious? Using common sense should have told you when was he able to not get to it on a normal deep kickoff then. Quit wasting my time. Or if you would like to enlighten us on having another deep return man could help the short kick off situation, go ahead.

 

I'm wasting your time? Give me a break. Remind me to never attempt to engage in a rational discussion with you again. We're done here.

 

Uhm...we were talking about how a 2 man return team could be successful. I said I wanted Hester to be the lone man because he can get to any normal kick. However I guess you think he should also be able to get to short squib kicks, but if I have to miss your brilliant insight as we've seen so far, well lets just say I won't be missing much.

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Uhm...we were talking about how a 2 man return team could be successful. I said I wanted Hester to be the lone man because he can get to any normal kick. However I guess you think he should also be able to get to short squib kicks, but if I have to miss your brilliant insight as we've seen so far, well lets just say I won't be missing much.

 

I'm no mind reader, and neither is anyone else. If you want to talk about 'normal' kicks, not short ones, then fine -- say so. You asked if I recall Hester not getting to kicks, I did and pointed out where, and you agreed but then said I was wrong. That didn't seem logical to me, so I simply asked how it was wrong.

 

I would like to end this. So I am done with it. Have a good evening.