Cubs sign Ohman, talk with Prior/Zambrano

[CP_414]

Per the Score, the Cubs sign Ohman to a 2-year $2.5M deal. They also exchanged figures with Prior and Z. No word on if it is 1-year or long term offer with Z.

 

Also, the Sox sign Crede for $5M this season.

[CuseCubFan69]

Lock up the Z! I'm curious on what kind of deal Prior is going to get.

[Sammy Sofa]

If they can get Prior in a similar "pay back the fans/team" deal a la Wood (though I obviously expect him to get more money and more than one year), I'd be happy. Hendry has actually drawn up some pretty good re-signing deals for the players we already have so far.

 

Z, however, should get the moon. Literally.

[CuseCubFan69]

If they can get Prior in a similar "pay back the fans/team" deal a la Wood (though I obviously expect him to get more money and more than one year), I'd be happy. Hendry has actually drawn up some pretty good re-signing deals for the players we already have so far.

 

Z, however, should get the moon. Literally.

 

We'll have to get George Baily to lasso it then.

[Twiggy]

I would love to lock up Zambrano before the season starts. Make it happen Hendry.

[RynoRules]

That's not a bad deal for LOOGY in this mkt. I'd trade Eyre now.

[C.C.]

I would love to lock up Zambrano before the season starts. Make it happen Hendry.

 

I have no worries about this at all. They'll get it done. They've shown they will sign their own players.

[CuseCubFan69]

That's not a bad deal for LOOGY in this mkt. I'd trade Eyre now.

 

Or Ohman.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I'm sure the Z offer was 1 year to get past arby with a multi-year offer being discussed this spring.

[CuseCubFan69]

I'm sure the Z offer was 1 year to get past arby with a multi-year offer being discussed this spring.

 

Probably. Let's hope Mr. Hendry gives Z some nice reasons to stay financially wise during these discussions.

[goonys evil twin]

If they can get Prior in a similar "pay back the fans/team" deal a la Wood (though I obviously expect him to get more money and more than one year), I'd be happy.

 

I would be shocked if they gave Prior more than 1 year at this point. There's no reason to offer it, unless he's willing to take peanuts in the 2nd year.

[daske17]

If they can get Prior in a similar "pay back the fans/team" deal a la Wood (though I obviously expect him to get more money and more than one year), I'd be happy.

 

I would be shocked if they gave Prior more than 1 year at this point. There's no reason to offer it, unless he's willing to take peanuts in the 2nd year.

 

Maybe they offer him an incentive-laden deal similar to Wood and Miller?

[goonys evil twin]

If they can get Prior in a similar "pay back the fans/team" deal a la Wood (though I obviously expect him to get more money and more than one year), I'd be happy.

 

I would be shocked if they gave Prior more than 1 year at this point. There's no reason to offer it, unless he's willing to take peanuts in the 2nd year.

 

Maybe they offer him an incentive-laden deal similar to Wood and Miller?

 

I don't see the point. They'll sign him to a one year deal worth about the same as he made in 2006, possibly a little less, but likely a shade more. He's not a free agent whom they need to entice to return. He is under their control, and their only obligation is to offer a contract no less than 80% (or similar) of what he made last year.

[davearm]

If they can get Prior in a similar "pay back the fans/team" deal a la Wood (though I obviously expect him to get more money and more than one year), I'd be happy.

 

I would be shocked if they gave Prior more than 1 year at this point. There's no reason to offer it, unless he's willing to take peanuts in the 2nd year.

 

Maybe they offer him an incentive-laden deal similar to Wood and Miller?

Prior's still two years away from free agency. There's really no need to get creative or go more than a year (and IIRC Hendry has never gone more than a year with a guy more than a year away from FA).

 

My guess is Prior will get the same in 2007 that he got in 2006. He's not in line for a raise, nor will he have to take a paycut.

[Rob]

That's not a bad deal for LOOGY in this mkt. I'd trade Eyre now.

 

Or Ohman.

 

Why would we want to trade the less expensive, more effective one? Especially when considering the fact that Eyre's market value is well above his actual value, trading Ohman instead of Eyre would most likely be foolhardy.

[goonys evil twin]

That's not a bad deal for LOOGY in this mkt. I'd trade Eyre now.

 

Or Ohman.

 

Why would we want to trade the less expensive, more effective one? Especially when considering the fact that Eyre's market value is well above his actual value, trading Ohman instead of Eyre would most likely be foolhardy.

 

Well, the question is which player the other teams would prefer. Maybe Eryre doesn't tickle their fancy, but Ohman does. In that case, you trade Ohman without blinking an eye, if it involves a player that can really help the team.

[CuseCubFan69]

That's not a bad deal for LOOGY in this mkt. I'd trade Eyre now.

 

Or Ohman.

 

Why would we want to trade the less expensive, more effective one? Especially when considering the fact that Eyre's market value is well above his actual value, trading Ohman instead of Eyre would most likely be foolhardy.

 

Well, the question is which player the other teams would prefer. Maybe Eryre doesn't tickle their fancy, but Ohman does. In that case, you trade Ohman without blinking an eye, if it involves a player that can really help the team.

 

Especially to a team on a budget like the Marlins.

[NorthsideAvenger]

That's not a bad deal for LOOGY in this mkt. I'd trade Eyre now.

 

Or Ohman.

 

Why would we want to trade the less expensive, more effective one? Especially when considering the fact that Eyre's market value is well above his actual value, trading Ohman instead of Eyre would most likely be foolhardy.

 

Well, the question is which player the other teams would prefer. Maybe Eryre doesn't tickle their fancy, but Ohman does. In that case, you trade Ohman without blinking an eye, if it involves a player that can really help the team.

 

Now while I see that a loogy is intregal part of the bullpen, but what kind of player do you expect to recieve for a loogy? I know they are hard to come by, and IMO, the Cubs have four guys who would qualify as potential loogy (Rapada/Cotts/Ohman/Eyre), but even for Ohman, you're prolly not going to get anything more then a decent bench player (ala Mark Sweeney caliber) or a couple of solid B prospect. So, if it came down to it, I would rather keep three lefties in the pen (with Cotts as the long man/emergency starter) with the possibility of moving either Eyre/Ohman at the deadline this yr, or after the 07 season.

[Sammy Sofa]

If they can get Prior in a similar "pay back the fans/team" deal a la Wood (though I obviously expect him to get more money and more than one year), I'd be happy.

 

I would be shocked if they gave Prior more than 1 year at this point. There's no reason to offer it, unless he's willing to take peanuts in the 2nd year.

 

I could see him getting a 2nd year, but that's it.

[CuseCubFan69]

That's not a bad deal for LOOGY in this mkt. I'd trade Eyre now.

 

Or Ohman.

 

Why would we want to trade the less expensive, more effective one? Especially when considering the fact that Eyre's market value is well above his actual value, trading Ohman instead of Eyre would most likely be foolhardy.

 

Well, the question is which player the other teams would prefer. Maybe Eryre doesn't tickle their fancy, but Ohman does. In that case, you trade Ohman without blinking an eye, if it involves a player that can really help the team.

 

Now while I see that a loogy is intregal part of the bullpen, but what kind of player do you expect to recieve for a loogy? I know they are hard to come by, and IMO, the Cubs have four guys who would qualify as potential loogy (Rapada/Cotts/Ohman/Eyre), but even for Ohman, you're prolly not going to get anything more then a decent bench player (ala Mark Sweeney caliber) or a couple of solid B prospect. So, if it came down to it, I would rather keep three lefties in the pen (with Cotts as the long man/emergency starter) with the possibility of moving either Eyre/Ohman at the deadline this yr, or after the 07 season.

 

He could always be part of a trade and not the main piece.

[daske17]

If they can get Prior in a similar "pay back the fans/team" deal a la Wood (though I obviously expect him to get more money and more than one year), I'd be happy.

 

I would be shocked if they gave Prior more than 1 year at this point. There's no reason to offer it, unless he's willing to take peanuts in the 2nd year.

 

Maybe they offer him an incentive-laden deal similar to Wood and Miller?

 

I don't see the point. They'll sign him to a one year deal worth about the same as he made in 2006, possibly a little less, but likely a shade more. He's not a free agent whom they need to entice to return. He is under their control, and their only obligation is to offer a contract no less than 80% (or similar) of what he made last year.

 

Apologies all around. I thought he was a free agent after the 2007 season.

[Sammy Sofa]

That's not a bad deal for LOOGY in this mkt. I'd trade Eyre now.

 

Or Ohman.

 

Why would we want to trade the less expensive, more effective one? Especially when considering the fact that Eyre's market value is well above his actual value, trading Ohman instead of Eyre would most likely be foolhardy.

 

Well, the question is which player the other teams would prefer. Maybe Eryre doesn't tickle their fancy, but Ohman does. In that case, you trade Ohman without blinking an eye, if it involves a player that can really help the team.

 

Now while I see that a loogy is intregal part of the bullpen, but what kind of player do you expect to recieve for a loogy? I know they are hard to come by, and IMO, the Cubs have four guys who would qualify as potential loogy (Rapada/Cotts/Ohman/Eyre), but even for Ohman, you're prolly not going to get anything more then a decent bench player (ala Mark Sweeney caliber) or a couple of solid B prospect. So, if it came down to it, I would rather keep three lefties in the pen (with Cotts as the long man/emergency starter) with the possibility of moving either Eyre/Ohman at the deadline this yr, or after the 07 season.

 

I think the ideal trade options people are talking here that would be most effective would packagae a guy like Ohman or Eyre with other players and not have them be the centerpiece or only player the Cubs were giving up.

[goonys evil twin]

Now while I see that a loogy is intregal part of the bullpen, but what kind of player do you expect to recieve for a loogy?

 

I'm not envisioning any 1/1 type of trade.

[Danny82]

If they can get Prior in a similar "pay back the fans/team" deal a la Wood (though I obviously expect him to get more money and more than one year), I'd be happy.

 

I would be shocked if they gave Prior more than 1 year at this point. There's no reason to offer it, unless he's willing to take peanuts in the 2nd year.

 

I could see him getting a 2nd year, but that's it.

But why would he sign to it?

[goonys evil twin]

If they can get Prior in a similar "pay back the fans/team" deal a la Wood (though I obviously expect him to get more money and more than one year), I'd be happy.

 

I would be shocked if they gave Prior more than 1 year at this point. There's no reason to offer it, unless he's willing to take peanuts in the 2nd year.

 

I could see him getting a 2nd year, but that's it.

 

Why would either side go to a 2nd year? The *only* way Prior would sign a 2 year deal is if the 2nd year was high enough to justify locking into that salary, and the Cubs would have no reason to guarantee him a 2nd year with so many questions regarding his health. There's too much risk on both sides to lock into that 2nd year. Prior is going to want to prove himself healthy and effective enough to be worth $10+ million next offseason, while the Cubs are going to want Prior to prove he's worth locking up past this one season.

 

 

 

I guess there could be another reason, and that is if Prior is convinced he won't be good enough in 2007 to have a chance to make more in 2008. But the Cubs would have to know that, and would therefore not want to sign him.