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and you're not going to have the black hole known as Cedeno in your everyday lineup.

 

But you do have Izturis in his place who had an OPS of .613 to Cedeno's .610

And Izturis significantly underperformed his 2006 PECOTA

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and you're not going to have the black hole known as Cedeno in your everyday lineup.

 

But you do have Izturis in his place who had an OPS of .613 to Cedeno's .610

And Izturis significantly underperformed his 2006 PECOTA

 

My prediction is that Izturis won't be playing too much if he puts up a similar month to the last couple seasons. The Cubs simply cannot afford to allow that.

 

My hope is he isn't on the opening day roster but I doubt that will come true.

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and you're not going to have the black hole known as Cedeno in your everyday lineup.

 

But you do have Izturis in his place who had an OPS of .613 to Cedeno's .610

And Izturis significantly underperformed his 2006 PECOTA

 

My prediction is that Izturis won't be playing too much if he puts up a similar month to the last couple to the last couple seasons. The Cubs simply cannot afford to allow that.

 

My hope is he isn't on the opening day roster but I doubt that will come true.

 

But if he is on the opening day roster, then it's probably too late to get a real upgrade. Therefore, if he puts up a month similar to the last couple seasons, the Cubs won't really be in a position to upgrade, other than going to Cedeno or maybe Theriot, neither of which is a lock to be better.

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and you're not going to have the black hole known as Cedeno in your everyday lineup.

 

But you do have Izturis in his place who had an OPS of .613 to Cedeno's .610

And Izturis significantly underperformed his 2006 PECOTA

 

My prediction is that Izturis won't be playing too much if he puts up a similar month to the last couple to the last couple seasons. The Cubs simply cannot afford to allow that.

 

My hope is he isn't on the opening day roster but I doubt that will come true.

 

But if he is on the opening day roster, then it's probably too late to get a real upgrade. Therefore, if he puts up a month similar to the last couple seasons, the Cubs won't really be in a position to upgrade, other than going to Cedeno or maybe Theriot, neither of which is a lock to be better.

 

Which is reason number 1 why I hope the Cubs can pursuade Lugo to goin the club.

 

My hope is that they are telling the media it is for CF but it is really for SS. If they get Lugo they can afford to go with a lessor talent in CF, almost.

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I don't think I'm going too far out on a limb to predict that Izturis will not last past the deadline as the starting SS. A combination of poor hitting and extreme fragility will prompt Hendry to seek a replacement. It's not unlikely that Neifi could be coming back as a rental.
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and you're not going to have the black hole known as Cedeno in your everyday lineup.

 

But you do have Izturis in his place who had an OPS of .613 to Cedeno's .610

And Izturis significantly underperformed his 2006 PECOTA

 

My prediction is that Izturis won't be playing too much if he puts up a similar month to the last couple to the last couple seasons. The Cubs simply cannot afford to allow that.

 

My hope is he isn't on the opening day roster but I doubt that will come true.

 

But if he is on the opening day roster, then it's probably too late to get a real upgrade. Therefore, if he puts up a month similar to the last couple seasons, the Cubs won't really be in a position to upgrade, other than going to Cedeno or maybe Theriot, neither of which is a lock to be better.

 

Which is reason number 1 why I hope the Cubs can pursuade Lugo to goin the club.

 

My hope is that they are telling the media it is for CF but it is really for SS. If they get Lugo they can afford to go with a lessor talent in CF, almost.

 

Lugo doesn't provide near enough offense to offset a lesser talent in CF.

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The problem is, what do you do with Izturis? Nobody is going to want him, so he's just going to be a backup if Lugo signs, and considering he has been a starter is whole career, that's likely to cause some unrest. Not to mention that there are already good backup infielder options (Theriot) in the system. I suspect the Cubs are just stuck with him and we'll have to hope he puts up numbers like he did in 2004. Man, what a bad trade that Maddux deal was. A turd in a basket would have been a better return.
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The problem is, what do you do with Izturis? Nobody is going to want him, so he's just going to be a backup if Lugo signs, and considering he has been a starter is whole career, that's likely to cause some unrest. Not to mention that there are already good backup infielder options (Theriot) in the system. I suspect the Cubs are just stuck with him and we'll have to hope he puts up numbers like he did in 2004. Man, what a bad trade that Maddux deal was. A turd in a basket would have been a better return.

 

I don't know how much value Izturis would have, but somebody would trade for him. There are similar type shortstops out there who are receiving contracts (Alex Gonzalez, who is just a little better with his deal for example) and multiple teams were chasing him. If the Cubs decide they want to just give Izturis away or take a low prospect in return, there will probably be multiple teams interested.

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I don't think that Pagan will be dragging down the averages by getting 300+ AB's, either.

 

I'm sure you're right. When it all shakes out, I don't think our bench will consist of Blanco, 3 IFs, plus Pagan and Bynum in the outfield. I couldn't see allocating any more ABs to the 7 infielders (4 starters plus 3 backups), or the 2 catchers, so I had to add the reamaing ABs to the outfielders. As bad as Pagan's projections are, Bynum's are even worse. Not a real good situation, any way you look at it. As I stated earlier..... I sure hope Hendry has some tricks up his sleeve !!

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we should probably wait until the roster becomes more clear of how it ends up(at least after the winter meetings) before we start claiming .500 and all that (not so)good stuff
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we should probably wait until the roster becomes more clear of how it ends up(at least after the winter meetings) before we start claiming .500 and all that (not so)good stuff

 

if this team stays healthy, there is no reason why it shouldnt be way over .500

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we should probably wait until the roster becomes more clear of how it ends up(at least after the winter meetings) before we start claiming .500 and all that (not so)good stuff

 

if this team stays healthy, there is no reason why it shouldnt be way over .500

 

as it stands right now?

 

way?

 

there is very little starting pitching on the team as of 11/28/06

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and you're not going to have the black hole known as Cedeno in your everyday lineup.

 

But you do have Izturis in his place who had an OPS of .613 to Cedeno's .610

And Izturis significantly underperformed his 2006 PECOTA

 

If we are stuck with Cesar, I just hope he can stay healthy. He is still an upgrade over Cedeno because he won't make all those errors. Ronny killed us with his glove last year. I also hear Izzy is going to score us runs with his glove. I'm looking forward to him bringing it with him to the batters box next year.

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we should probably wait until the roster becomes more clear of how it ends up(at least after the winter meetings) before we start claiming .500 and all that (not so)good stuff

 

if this team stays healthy, there is no reason why it shouldnt be way over .500

 

as it stands right now?

 

way?

 

there is very little starting pitching on the team as of 11/28/06

 

If all are healthy its

 

Zambrano

Hill

Prior

Miller

Marshall/Marmol/Mateo/Guzman

 

Not a great rotation, probably in the bottom third.

 

Of course if we got 2003 Prior, and 2002 Miller and a second half 2006 Hill we are looking pretty good.

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we should probably wait until the roster becomes more clear of how it ends up(at least after the winter meetings) before we start claiming .500 and all that (not so)good stuff

 

if this team stays healthy, there is no reason why it shouldnt be way over .500

 

as it stands right now?

 

way?

 

there is very little starting pitching on the team as of 11/28/06

 

If all are healthy its

 

Zambrano

Hill

Prior

Miller

Marshall/Marmol/Mateo/Guzman

 

Not a great rotation, probably in the bottom third.

 

Of course if we got 2003 Prior, and 2002 Miller and a second half 2006 Hill we are looking pretty good.

Cotts?

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