Cubs/Indians potential trade partners?

[Neuby]

http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/1159950792194190.xml&coll=2&thispage=1

 

Shapiro is counting on a rejuvenated Jhonny Peralta to lift the defense at shortstop. Peralta failed this year, but he's committed to a winter of work.

 

Iztuirz could fill the roles Shapiro is looking for to improve his infield defense at second base or shortstop. It's a lot easier to hide a guy like Izzy in your lineup with the benfit of the DH in AL lineups. The Indians were second last season in the AL in runs scored. If Hafner plays more 1B next season and Indians find some outifled/DH help this offense will l become even more lethal . There's fews team that can afford to have Izzy in there lineup it's the Indians. The Indians other offseason needs are outfield and a closer.

 

 

Here are some possible closer candidates: Joe Borowski, who saved 36 games for Florida, and Dustin Hermanson, Octavio Dotel, Keith Foulke and Eric Gagne, who all have injury issues. Milwaukee's Francisco Cordero went 10-5 with 22 saves but has an option for 2007.

 

Cordero's option has been picked up.Dotel had a 10.80 area last season and struggled to regain velocity. A nice gamble for some teams but with Larry Dolan giving the Shapiro a nice boost in payroll he'll expect more. They might see Dempsters struggles as being magnified by his erractic use this offseason and a vaule at 4.5 million considering that 37 year old Bob Wickman just got a 6.5 million one year deal.

 

Jones who if reports are true might want out might make a attractive option for a replacement for Blake who would be sent the Cubs in this deal and might welcome a chance to return to the AL central.

 

Dempster/Izturis/Jones/ 2 million in cash

 

in Exchange for

 

Casey Blake/Trevor Crowe/ Young arm

 

 

Year	Team	Lg	Age	Org.	Level	 	Pos	G	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	CS	BB	SO	HBP	IBB	SH	SF	DP 	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS	 
2003	Arizona	NCAA	19		NCAA	 	 	53	187	34	59	14	2	2	35	13	4	9	32	1	 	1	3	3 	.316	.345	.444	789	 
2004	Arizona	NCAA	20		NCAA	 	 	58	203	53	71	13	9	5	33	26	1	21	39	2	 	1	0	7 	.350	.416	.576	992	 cws-as, as
2005	Arizona	NCAA	21		NCAA	 	 	60	263	83	106	25	15	9	54	27	6	36	30	4	 	0	3	4 	.403	.477	.715	1192	 mvp, as, amer
	Mahoning V	NYPL	21	Cle	A-	 	of	12	51	9	13	2	1	1	6	4	3	6	8	1	0	0	0	0 	.255	.345	.392	737	 
	Lake Cty	SAL	21	Cle	A	 	of	44	178	18	46	8	2	0	23	7	5	18	25	1	1	0	2	4 	.258	.327	.326	653	 
	Akron	East	21	Cle	AA	 	of	3	10	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3	0	0	0	0	0 	.100	.100	.100	200	 
2006	Lake Cty	SAL	22	Cle	A	 	of	2	5	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0 	.000	.000	.000	000	 
	Kinston	Caro	22	Cle	A+	 	of	60	219	51	72	15	2	4	31	29	6	48	46	2	0	1	3	6 	.329	.449	.470	919	 
	Akron	East	22	Cle	AA	 	of	39	154	20	36	7	2	1	13	16	6	20	24	0	1	0	2	6 	.234	.318	.325	643	 
Minor League Totals - 2 Season(s)	160	617	99	168	32	7	6	73	56	20	92	107	4	2	1	7	16 	.272	.367	.376	743

 

Trevor Crowe is a former first round pick and #10 on Baseball America's Indians prospect. A guy that projects to be good top of the order hitter that will allow the Cubs in the future to slot Pie further down in the oder

Casey Blake 3.75 million

Blake makes for an expensive utility guy. 1B/3B/RF/LF/PH/DH

 

AVG .282 | HR 19 | RBI 68 | OBP .356 | SLG .479  

 

If he can give the Cubs similar production in limited time next season he will be worth it.

4.5 Jones /4.5 Dempster/ Izzy 4.25/

 

13.25 M - 5.75 = 7.50 in freed up payroll. It looks like Rusch will retire and the Cubs will have another 3.25 million.

Sign Wood to a one year 3 million dollar deal with incentives and Sign Miller to a 2 Million dollar with a mutal option for a second year.

The extra six million along with depatures of Pierre ,the midseason deals Maddux/Williamson/Walker/Nefi/Mabry and Wood's contract off the books and the payroll expected to be at least 100 million Hendry can make a push. Signing Schmidt and Soranio will be a major step in the right direction.

With the options of exploring Carlos Lee, Edmonds, A.Jones/M.Ramiez/ Arod/Tejeda Hendry might have the youngs arms and cash to explore signing or trading for another big bat.

[Backtobanks]

http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/1159950792194190.xml&coll=2&thispage=1

 

Shapiro is counting on a rejuvenated Jhonny Peralta to lift the defense at shortstop. Peralta failed this year, but he's committed to a winter of work.

 

Iztuirz could fill the roles Shapiro is looking for to improve his infield defense at second base or shortstop. It's a lot easier to hide a guy like Izzy in your lineup with the benfit of the DH in AL lineups. The Indians were second last season in the AL in runs scored. If Hafner plays more 1B next season and Indians find some outifled/DH help this offense will l become even more lethal . There's fews team that can afford to have Izzy in there lineup it's the Indians. The Indians other offseason needs are outfield and a closer.

 

 

Here are some possible closer candidates: Joe Borowski, who saved 36 games for Florida, and Dustin Hermanson, Octavio Dotel, Keith Foulke and Eric Gagne, who all have injury issues. Milwaukee's Francisco Cordero went 10-5 with 22 saves but has an option for 2007.

 

Cordero's option has been picked up.Dotel had a 10.80 area last season and struggled to regain velocity. A nice gamble for some teams but with Larry Dolan giving the Shapiro a nice boost in payroll he'll expect more. They might see Dempsters struggles as being magnified by his erractic use this offseason and a vaule at 4.5 million considering that 37 year old Bob Wickman just got a 6.5 million one year deal.

 

Jones who if reports are true might want out might make a attractive option for a replacement for Blake who would be sent the Cubs in this deal and might welcome a chance to return to the AL central.

 

Dempster/Izturis/Jones/ 2 million in cash

 

in Exchange for

 

Casey Blake/Trevor Crowe/ Young arm

 

 

Year	Team	Lg	Age	Org.	Level	 	Pos	G	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	CS	BB	SO	HBP	IBB	SH	SF	DP 	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS	 
2003	Arizona	NCAA	19		NCAA	 	 	53	187	34	59	14	2	2	35	13	4	9	32	1	 	1	3	3 	.316	.345	.444	789	 
2004	Arizona	NCAA	20		NCAA	 	 	58	203	53	71	13	9	5	33	26	1	21	39	2	 	1	0	7 	.350	.416	.576	992	 cws-as, as
2005	Arizona	NCAA	21		NCAA	 	 	60	263	83	106	25	15	9	54	27	6	36	30	4	 	0	3	4 	.403	.477	.715	1192	 mvp, as, amer
	Mahoning V	NYPL	21	Cle	A-	 	of	12	51	9	13	2	1	1	6	4	3	6	8	1	0	0	0	0 	.255	.345	.392	737	 
	Lake Cty	SAL	21	Cle	A	 	of	44	178	18	46	8	2	0	23	7	5	18	25	1	1	0	2	4 	.258	.327	.326	653	 
	Akron	East	21	Cle	AA	 	of	3	10	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	3	0	0	0	0	0 	.100	.100	.100	200	 
2006	Lake Cty	SAL	22	Cle	A	 	of	2	5	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0 	.000	.000	.000	000	 
	Kinston	Caro	22	Cle	A+	 	of	60	219	51	72	15	2	4	31	29	6	48	46	2	0	1	3	6 	.329	.449	.470	919	 
	Akron	East	22	Cle	AA	 	of	39	154	20	36	7	2	1	13	16	6	20	24	0	1	0	2	6 	.234	.318	.325	643	 
Minor League Totals - 2 Season(s)	160	617	99	168	32	7	6	73	56	20	92	107	4	2	1	7	16 	.272	.367	.376	743

 

Trevor Crowe is a former first round pick and #10 on Baseball America's Indians prospect. A guy that projects to be good top of the order hitter that will allow the Cubs in the future to slot Pie further down in the oder

Casey Blake 3.75 million

Blake makes for an expensive utility guy. 1B/3B/RF/LF/PH/DH

 

AVG .282 | HR 19 | RBI 68 | OBP .356 | SLG .479  

 

If he can give the Cubs similar production in limited time next season he will be worth it.

4.5 Jones /4.5 Dempster/ Izzy 4.25/

 

13.25 M - 5.75 = 7.50 in freed up payroll. It looks like Rusch will retire and the Cubs will have another 3.25 million.

Sign Wood to a one year 3 million dollar deal with incentives and Sign Miller to a 2 Million dollar with a mutal option for a second year.

The extra six million along with depatures of Pierre ,the midseason deals Maddux/Williamson/Walker/Nefi/Mabry and Wood's contract off the books and the payroll expected to be at least 100 million Hendry can make a push. Signing Schmidt and Soranio will be a major step in the right direction.

With the options of exploring Carlos Lee, Edmonds, A.Jones/M.Ramiez/ Arod/Tejeda Hendry might have the youngs arms and cash to explore signing or trading for another big bat.

 

Sounds good to me. I couldn't get much out of the stats you presented for Crowe, but getting rid of Jones, Dempster, and Izturis together makes it a simple case of addition by subtraction.

[rawaction]

Not gonna happen. Indians aren't gonna take on all that salary to MAYBE be marginally better. They also aren't trading Crowe anytime soon, either. They are hoping he can move Sizemore to the middle of the order, by becoming the team's leadoff man of the future.

[b_wiggy_66]

Good thoughts, but according to most of the reports I've seen, unfortunaley, it seems like Izturis is one of the cornerstones their trying to build around, and it seems like hes one of their guys.

[Outshined_One]

Brad Snyder plz.

[Cubzfan64]

Good thoughts, but according to most of the reports I've seen, unfortunaley, it seems like Izturis is one of the cornerstones their trying to build around, and it seems like hes one of their guys.

 

Oh God - those are 2 words that should NEVER be uttered together!!!!

 

Izturis & Cornerstone

 

*sigh*

[RockTheIvy]

I was thinking about a former Indian, Coco Crisp. Think Boston might be willing to try out Jones as their CFer? Lord knows we'll never think of that idea.

[nilodnayr]

Izturis for Choo please. Unfortunately, serviceable second basemen are quite easy to come by via free agency this offseason. Belliard, Kennedy, Counsel, DeRosa, Durham, Loretta are all significantly better than Izturis and will cost about the same $.

[Soriano12]

Jake Westbrook. Por Favor.

[Post Count Padder]

Think they'd take Izturis for Ryan Garko? :D

[Vinestal]

Good thoughts, but according to most of the reports I've seen, unfortunaley, it seems like Izturis is one of the cornerstones their trying to build around, and it seems like hes one of their guys.

 

Yup, this is the reason this team will continue to suck untill Hendry is gone and someone with some brains is brought in. I dont hold out much hope for next season. I wonder how long it will take to get rid of Hendry.

[Soriano12]

I wonder how long it will take to get rid of Hendry.

 

Hopefully a potential sales transaction will come through and end his tenure,

and the ticket scalper's as well.