Are the Cubs really going to consider resigning Pierre?

[fromthestretch]

Why waste the time even lamenting this? The franchise is doomed as long as Hendry is there, everyone KNOWS he'll sign Pierre to a ridiculous deal, it's guaranteed.

 

No. Hope. Whatsoever.

 

I'm not so sure about that. I don't think Juan really wants to stay. Espically since Baker is gone.

 

That may prompt Hendry to overbid though and that worries me.

 

C'mon! When was the last time the Cubs out-bidded anyone!

 

Neifi, Rusch, Jones, Howry, Eyre, Dempster...the list is long and lamentable.

 

Doesn't at least one other team have to show some sort of interest in a player before it can be said that the Cubs out-bid someone?

[C.C.]

Why waste the time even lamenting this? The franchise is doomed as long as Hendry is there, everyone KNOWS he'll sign Pierre to a ridiculous deal, it's guaranteed.

 

No. Hope. Whatsoever.

 

I'm not so sure about that. I don't think Juan really wants to stay. Espically since Baker is gone.

 

That may prompt Hendry to overbid though and that worries me.

 

C'mon! When was the last time the Cubs out-bidded anyone!

 

Neifi, Rusch, Jones, Howry, Eyre, Dempster...the list is long and lamentable.

 

Outbid means other teams also made a bid.

[RichHillIsABeast]

Why waste the time even lamenting this? The franchise is doomed as long as Hendry is there, everyone KNOWS he'll sign Pierre to a ridiculous deal, it's guaranteed.

 

No. Hope. Whatsoever.

 

I'm not so sure about that. I don't think Juan really wants to stay. Espically since Baker is gone.

 

That may prompt Hendry to overbid though and that worries me.

 

C'mon! When was the last time the Cubs out-bidded anyone!

 

Neifi, Rusch, Jones, Howry, Eyre, Dempster...the list is long and lamentable.

 

Outbid means other teams also made a bid.

 

No, it means our bids were so far over the top no one even tried. All of those guys would have had jobs in the bigs. Someone would have paid them.

[C.C.]

Why waste the time even lamenting this? The franchise is doomed as long as Hendry is there, everyone KNOWS he'll sign Pierre to a ridiculous deal, it's guaranteed.

 

No. Hope. Whatsoever.

 

I'm not so sure about that. I don't think Juan really wants to stay. Espically since Baker is gone.

 

That may prompt Hendry to overbid though and that worries me.

 

C'mon! When was the last time the Cubs out-bidded anyone!

 

Neifi, Rusch, Jones, Howry, Eyre, Dempster...the list is long and lamentable.

 

Outbid means other teams also made a bid.

 

No, it means our bids were so far over the top no one even tried. All of those guys would have had jobs in the bigs. Someone would have paid them.

 

Wait a sec! Howry and Erye in hindsight weren't bad deals at all. Farnsworth got 3/17 and Looper got 13.5 million! The Cubs actually did pretty well by signing them early...

[A New Era]

Why waste the time even lamenting this? The franchise is doomed as long as Hendry is there, everyone KNOWS he'll sign Pierre to a ridiculous deal, it's guaranteed.

 

No. Hope. Whatsoever.

 

I'm not so sure about that. I don't think Juan really wants to stay. Espically since Baker is gone.

 

That may prompt Hendry to overbid though and that worries me.

 

C'mon! When was the last time the Cubs out-bidded anyone!

 

Neifi, Rusch, Jones, Howry, Eyre, Dempster...the list is long and lamentable.

 

Outbid means other teams also made a bid.

 

No, it means our bids were so far over the top no one even tried. All of those guys would have had jobs in the bigs. Someone would have paid them.

 

Wait a sec! Howry and Erye in hindsight weren't bad deals at all. Farnsworth got 3/17 and Looper got 13.5 million! The Cubs actually did pretty well by signing them early...

 

And Jones actually performed pretty well for what he is getting. So you have to shorten that list to Neifi, Rusch, and Dempster. Even though with his performance last year someone would have probably gave Dempster more. Neifi and Rusch are the only 2 really stupid "pre-bid/overbid" players JH screwed himself on.

[C.C.]

Why waste the time even lamenting this? The franchise is doomed as long as Hendry is there, everyone KNOWS he'll sign Pierre to a ridiculous deal, it's guaranteed.

 

No. Hope. Whatsoever.

 

I'm not so sure about that. I don't think Juan really wants to stay. Espically since Baker is gone.

 

That may prompt Hendry to overbid though and that worries me.

 

C'mon! When was the last time the Cubs out-bidded anyone!

 

Neifi, Rusch, Jones, Howry, Eyre, Dempster...the list is long and lamentable.

 

Outbid means other teams also made a bid.

 

No, it means our bids were so far over the top no one even tried. All of those guys would have had jobs in the bigs. Someone would have paid them.

 

Wait a sec! Howry and Erye in hindsight weren't bad deals at all. Farnsworth got 3/17 and Looper got 13.5 million! The Cubs actually did pretty well by signing them early...

 

And Jones actually performed pretty well for what he is getting. So you have to shorten that list to Neifi, Rusch, and Dempster. Even though with his performance last year someone would have probably gave Dempster more. Neifi and Rusch are the only 2 really stupid "pre-bid/overbid" players JH screwed himself on.

 

And I would dare to say that Dempster on the open market could've got more money also. So it's down to Neifi and Rusch. Both were terrible deals.

[goonys evil twin]

Why waste the time even lamenting this? The franchise is doomed as long as Hendry is there, everyone KNOWS he'll sign Pierre to a ridiculous deal, it's guaranteed.

 

No. Hope. Whatsoever.

 

I'm not so sure about that. I don't think Juan really wants to stay. Espically since Baker is gone.

 

That may prompt Hendry to overbid though and that worries me.

 

C'mon! When was the last time the Cubs out-bidded anyone!

 

Neifi, Rusch, Jones, Howry, Eyre, Dempster...the list is long and lamentable.

 

Outbid means other teams also made a bid.

 

No, it means our bids were so far over the top no one even tried. All of those guys would have had jobs in the bigs. Someone would have paid them.

 

Wait a sec! Howry and Erye in hindsight weren't bad deals at all. Farnsworth got 3/17 and Looper got 13.5 million! The Cubs actually did pretty well by signing them early...

 

And Jones actually performed pretty well for what he is getting. So you have to shorten that list to Neifi, Rusch, and Dempster. Even though with his performance last year someone would have probably gave Dempster more. Neifi and Rusch are the only 2 really stupid "pre-bid/overbid" players JH screwed himself on.

 

The list was players the Cubs outbid somebody for, why would you have to shorten it because guys were actually decent?

[C.C.]

Why waste the time even lamenting this? The franchise is doomed as long as Hendry is there, everyone KNOWS he'll sign Pierre to a ridiculous deal, it's guaranteed.

 

No. Hope. Whatsoever.

 

I'm not so sure about that. I don't think Juan really wants to stay. Espically since Baker is gone.

 

That may prompt Hendry to overbid though and that worries me.

 

C'mon! When was the last time the Cubs out-bidded anyone!

 

Neifi, Rusch, Jones, Howry, Eyre, Dempster...the list is long and lamentable.

 

Outbid means other teams also made a bid.

 

No, it means our bids were so far over the top no one even tried. All of those guys would have had jobs in the bigs. Someone would have paid them.

 

Wait a sec! Howry and Erye in hindsight weren't bad deals at all. Farnsworth got 3/17 and Looper got 13.5 million! The Cubs actually did pretty well by signing them early...

 

And Jones actually performed pretty well for what he is getting. So you have to shorten that list to Neifi, Rusch, and Dempster. Even though with his performance last year someone would have probably gave Dempster more. Neifi and Rusch are the only 2 really stupid "pre-bid/overbid" players JH screwed himself on.

 

The list was players the Cubs outbid somebody for, why would you have to shorten it because guys were actually decent?

 

I'm not sure about that. All I'm saying is the Howry, Eyre, and Dempster could've of gotten better deals...

[MustangMike]

No matter what anyone thinks of Juan Pierre, he just isn't worth re-signing at the amount he is going to ask for. $7-8 million per year for 3 years for Pierre is ridiculous.

 

For the overall numbers at that price I have to agree, and if that's the arguement I'm on board. I still want to know what this magic cut-off number is for OBP is for someone to be worth "X" amount of money.

[frostwyrm]

Neifi and Rusch are the only 2 really stupid "pre-bid/overbid" players JH screwed himself on.

 

Alfonseca for $4 million?

[frostwyrm]

Wait a sec! Howry and Erye in hindsight weren't bad deals at all. Farnsworth got 3/17 and Looper got 13.5 million! The Cubs actually did pretty well by signing them early...

 

Not really. The Eyre/Howry deals were largely responsible for inflating the relief market for everybody.

[goonys evil twin]

No matter what anyone thinks of Juan Pierre, he just isn't worth re-signing at the amount he is going to ask for. $7-8 million per year for 3 years for Pierre is ridiculous.

 

For the overall numbers at that price I have to agree, and if that's the arguement I'm on board. I still want to know what this magic cut-off number is for OBP is for someone to be worth "X" amount of money.

 

There isn't a magic cut-off number. It's a sliding scale that takes things like SLG, as well as age/room for improvement, etc.

 

 

In general, if I'm going to pay multi millions, guaranteed for multi years, the guy better be well above average. If I'm getting bottom half of the league production, I'm not paying for it.

[frostwyrm]

Pierre is a perfect example of someone you don't give a multiyear deal to because his entire skillset is based on speed. If he loses a step he'll be utterly useless, not even worthy of a roster spot.

[NCCubFan]

South Side shift?

Sep 26 - Cubs leadoff hitter and free-agent-to-be Juan Pierre may be tempted to join the White Sox because of his relationship with manager Ozzie Guillen, the Chicago Sun-Times reports.

"Yeah, I love Ozzie, Pierre told the newspaper. "... Just knowing him and being around him for so long, and winning the World Series with him [with the Marlins in 2003], yeah, I definitely wouldn't mind playing for Ozzie."

If he goes to the Sox I'll personally pay all of his moving expenses. :D

[Sammy Sofa]

You know what this means, right? It's going to be the time Hendry is FINALLY motivated by the White Sox and he does something insane, like signing Pierre to a 3 year/$8 million per deal.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I read the White Sox are also interested in Blanco. I say that they should get to sign both Pierre and Blanco in a package deal.