Soriano rumor....

[VVMattVV]

40/40/40/ from a second baseman or center field next season if fine by me.

 

Careful or you will hear from the stats junkies who will find some statistic to downplay his offense.

 

No, you won't. What you will find is some solid evidence suggesting it'd be foolish to expect him to achieve those feats again. There's no reason to be optimistic that he's capable of repeating this years success. It's a fluke and it's out of line with his last few years.

 

But even if he doesn't achieve those feats again, his career averages would be a huge upgrade at 2B or CF for the 2007 Cubs.

 

True, but if he does regress to his career averages, would he be worth the huge contract we'd have to give him?

[Jehrico]

40/40/40/ from a second baseman or center field next season if fine by me.

 

Careful or you will hear from the stats junkies who will find some statistic to downplay his offense.

 

No, you won't. What you will find is some solid evidence suggesting it'd be foolish to expect him to achieve those feats again. There's no reason to be optimistic that he's capable of repeating this years success. It's a fluke and it's out of line with his last few years.

 

But even if he doesn't achieve those feats again, his career averages would be a huge upgrade at 2B or CF for the 2007 Cubs.

 

One probem with that...he can't play 2b. You may as well put Barrett out there in the middle IF if you're that desparate for offensive production from 2b that you'd completely disregard defense altogether.

 

I haven't watched him in the OF this year...he's got the arm and the speed for CF, but I dont' know whether or not he could hack it, so I won't say he'd be a bad idea there either.

 

Also, there's no guarantee he'll come close to those kinds of numbers next year either. He hit about as bad as Neifi away from Arlington last year. No exaggeration there, his road OPS really was close to Neifi's.

[Backtobanks]

40/40/40/ from a second baseman or center field next season if fine by me.

 

Careful or you will hear from the stats junkies who will find some statistic to downplay his offense.

 

No, you won't. What you will find is some solid evidence suggesting it'd be foolish to expect him to achieve those feats again. There's no reason to be optimistic that he's capable of repeating this years success. It's a fluke and it's out of line with his last few years.

 

But even if he doesn't achieve those feats again, his career averages would be a huge upgrade at 2B or CF for the 2007 Cubs.

 

True, but if he does regress to his career averages, would he be worth the huge contract we'd have to give him?

 

I've stated before that I don't think Hendry will win a bidding war for Soriano and I don't think he's worth the money he's going to get. Personally, I have trouble believing about 80% of the players are worth what they get.

[Jehrico]

40/40/40/ from a second baseman or center field next season if fine by me.

 

Careful or you will hear from the stats junkies who will find some statistic to downplay his offense.

 

No, you won't. What you will find is some solid evidence suggesting it'd be foolish to expect him to achieve those feats again. There's no reason to be optimistic that he's capable of repeating this years success. It's a fluke and it's out of line with his last few years.

 

But even if he doesn't achieve those feats again, his career averages would be a huge upgrade at 2B or CF for the 2007 Cubs.

 

True, but if he does regress to his career averages, would he be worth the huge contract we'd have to give him?

 

I've stated before that I don't think Hendry will win a bidding war for Soriano and I don't think he's worth the money he's going to get. Personally, I have trouble believing about 80% of the players are worth what they get.

Change that to 90%, and quoted for truth.

[soccer10k]

40/40/40/ from a second baseman or center field next season if fine by me.

 

Careful or you will hear from the stats junkies who will find some statistic to downplay his offense.

 

No, you won't. What you will find is some solid evidence suggesting it'd be foolish to expect him to achieve those feats again. There's no reason to be optimistic that he's capable of repeating this years success. It's a fluke and it's out of line with his last few years.

 

But even if he doesn't achieve those feats again, his career averages would be a huge upgrade at 2B or CF for the 2007 Cubs.

 

One probem with that...he can't play 2b. You may as well put Barrett out there in the middle IF if you're that desparate for offensive production from 2b that you'd completely disregard defense altogether.

 

I haven't watched him in the OF this year...he's got the arm and the speed for CF, but I dont' know whether or not he could hack it, so I won't say he'd be a bad idea there either.

 

Also, there's no guarantee he'll come close to those kinds of numbers next year either. He hit about as bad as Neifi away from Arlington last year. No exaggeration there, his road OPS really was close to Neifi's.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't RFK a pitcher's park?

 

Either way, Soriano has a .944 OPS at home and a .921 OPS on the road this year.

[Jehrico]

40/40/40/ from a second baseman or center field next season if fine by me.

 

Careful or you will hear from the stats junkies who will find some statistic to downplay his offense.

 

No, you won't. What you will find is some solid evidence suggesting it'd be foolish to expect him to achieve those feats again. There's no reason to be optimistic that he's capable of repeating this years success. It's a fluke and it's out of line with his last few years.

 

But even if he doesn't achieve those feats again, his career averages would be a huge upgrade at 2B or CF for the 2007 Cubs.

 

One probem with that...he can't play 2b. You may as well put Barrett out there in the middle IF if you're that desparate for offensive production from 2b that you'd completely disregard defense altogether.

 

I haven't watched him in the OF this year...he's got the arm and the speed for CF, but I dont' know whether or not he could hack it, so I won't say he'd be a bad idea there either.

 

Also, there's no guarantee he'll come close to those kinds of numbers next year either. He hit about as bad as Neifi away from Arlington last year. No exaggeration there, his road OPS really was close to Neifi's.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't RFK a pitcher's park?

 

Either way, Soriano has a .944 OPS at home and a .921 OPS on the road this year.

 

This year...he's going to get paid big because of this year, and this year is waaaay out of line with his last couple of years. That's the problem, and that's why he's so risky to give big money to. There's a very good probability this year will turn out to be a fluke.

[soccer10k]

I don't doubt that Soriano will regress next year, but I don't think that he will regress as much as some people are expecting if he comes to Wrigley that is. Barring injury, Soriano is likely a lock for 30-35 HR's, 30-35 2B and a .500 SLG. We know he won't get on base all that well career year or not. We know we are going to have to overpay to get a top player because it's a matter of simple economics, supply and demand. He's not going to be worth the money he's going to get, but there aren't many top players in the league that are.

[SeldomSeen]

It's been said, but I'd much rather overpay for a guy like Soriano than Neifi, Rusch, Pierre, Izturis...

 

Besides, it's not like he's never slugged well before. This is is 4th season in the last 5 with 35+ HR and .500+ SLG. If he maintains even a modest amount of patience he's head and shoulders above any in-house solutions for 2B.

[RockTheIvy]

If he keeps his walk rate at a similar level, I'd be thrilled to have him, especially since he would get to play a ton of games at NL Central parks. If you sign Soriano, it means you could use EPatt in a trade. Just something to consider.