The Soccer Thread

[Guest]

I'll take it but that wasn't a penalty at all.

[shnsajax]

Has Beasley gained any weight since he was 17?

[USSoccer]

Today was a great advertisement for soccer being played somewhere between half and three-quarters speed.

 

No one got hurt. Job done.

[Guest]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2322069/Mario-Balotelli-takes-200k-Ferrari-karting-track-AC-Milan-ban-mini-karts.html

 

A couple weeks old but just saw that Balotelli took his 300K Ferrari to a go-kart track because his contract forbids him from riding go-karts.

[jersey cubs fan]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/05/09/article-2322069-19B340C9000005DC-51_634x458.jpg

 

Hearty handshake

[wolf stansson]

http://www.noshortcorners.com/2013/05/who-likes-goodies.html

 

So, who wants to start the Jozy Altidore summer club watch? I have learned that among widespread interest of varying levels are the likes of Schalke and Lazio. I have more confirmed, with further winkers in England, Italy, Russia and Ukraine... but let's hold off on that for now. Instead, I will throw up our offside flag on Spanish reports that linked the striker with Aston Villa, Real Betis and Sevilla. These rumors are exactly that and no more.

 

Recent UK reports, smelling vastly of fish and chips, claimed that Tottenham were looking to sell Clint Dempsey this summer. I have been assured by two separate birdies in the know that this report is bunk. Everyone is happy with everyone else, nothing to see here.

[USSoccer]

Chivas USA, in the past 24 hours, has been hit with a lawsuit alleging discrimination against non-Latinos AND fired El Chelis. I've spent some time reading the filing...and CUSA is going to get their asses handed to them in court. CA is NOT the place to dick around with how you treat employees and handle discrimination complaints.

 

http://folfry.com/chivasusa/

 

This is a major [expletive] that Garber and Co need to sort out right away.

 

On or about November 13, 2012, Mr. Vergara – now the sole owner and

highest ranking senior executive at CHIVAS USA – called a mandatory meeting of all employees,

including plaintiff MR. CHRONOPOULOS. At the meeting, Mr. Vergara intentionally humiliated

all employees who were neither Mexican nor Latino. Mr. Vergara brazenly announced that all nonSpanish speaking employees would be fired. He asked, publicly, for those employees who were able to speak Spanish to raise their hands (he initially asked the question in Spanish and then repeated it in English). He then asked employees who spoke English to raise their hands. After publicly identifying those employees who did not speak Spanish, he announced that those employees who did not speak Spanish would no longer be able to work at CHIVAS USA.

 

As he further stated, “If you don’t speak Spanish, you can go work for the Galaxy, unless you speak Chinese, which is not even a language.” Mr. Vergara’s conduct was offensive, it confirmed the existence of a hostile, intimidating, and discriminatory work environment based on national origin, ethnicity and race, and was a direct violation of CHIVAS USA’s own harassment policy.

 

On or about November 20, 2012, MR. CHRONOPOULOS attended a meeting with CHIVAS USA’s President and Chief Business Officer, Jose David. During the meeting, Mr.

David asked about and discussed the origins and ethnicity of all of the Academy players and coaches – specifically wanting to know who was Mexican or Mexican-American and who was not. Prior to Mr. Vergara taking over as CHIVAS USA’s sole owner and Mr. David’s installation as its President, MR. CHRONOPOULOS, during his tenure at the Academy, had never been asked to identify players and coaches who were Mexican. MR. CHRONOPOULOS left the meeting upset. It verified the ethnocentric and discriminatory design that the new ownership and management had for CHIVAS USA.

 

On or about December 18, 2012, MR. CHRONOPOULOS met with Chivas USA President and Chief Business Officer, Jose David. Mr. David directed MR. CHRONOPOULOS, during the Winter Break (December 20th to January 6th), to collect ethnic and national origin data pertaining to all Chivas Academy players and their parents. When the requests for this information were sent to the parents, many of them were offended and refused to provide it and at least one parent (Mr. Morris) complained that he felt he was being discriminated against and was fearful that his son would not be allowed in the Academy.

 

This is brazen stupidity by Vergara

[wolf stansson]

Beckham buys them out on the cheap, moves them to Miami and Chivas goes away. Win-win-win.

[Sammy Sofa]

Random question since I know so little of the sport: I'm watching a special on the Smithsonian Air Disaster that killed several members of Manchester United in 1958 and there are people talking about Duncan Edwards like he was one of the greatest players who ever lived. Is this at least sorta true or just "he died too soon"-type hyperbole?

[USSoccer]

Random question since I know so little of the sport: I'm watching a special on the Smithsonian Air Disaster that killed several members of Manchester United in 1958 and there are people talking about Duncan Edwards like he was one of the greatest players who ever lived. Is this at least sorta true or just "he died too soon"-type hyperbole?

 

I think it's hyperbole. He wasn't even one of the greatest players on that plane.

[Sammy Sofa]

Random question since I know so little of the sport: I'm watching a special on the Smithsonian Air Disaster that killed several members of Manchester United in 1958 and there are people talking about Duncan Edwards like he was one of the greatest players who ever lived. Is this at least sorta true or just "he died too soon"-type hyperbole?

 

I think it's hyperbole. He wasn't even one of the greatest players on that plane.

 

Man, really? They were saying stuff along these lines:

 

Contemporaries of Edwards have been unstinting in their praise of his abilities. Bobby Charlton described him as "the only player that made me feel inferior" and said his death was "the biggest single tragedy ever to happen to Manchester United and English football".[73] Terry Venables claimed that, had he lived, it would have been Edwards, not Bobby Moore, who lifted the World Cup trophy as England captain in 1966.[48] Tommy Docherty stated that "there is no doubt in my mind that Duncan would have become the greatest player ever. Not just in British football, with United and England, but the best in the world. George Best was something special, as was Pelé and Maradona, but in my mind Duncan was much better in terms of all-round ability and skill."[74]

 

Although he is primarily remembered as a defensive midfielder, Edwards is said to have been able to operate in any outfield position on the field of play.[8] His versatility was such that on one occasion he started the match playing as an emergency striker in place of one injured player before being switched to central defence in place of another.[76] His greatest assets were his physical strength and his level of authority on the pitch, which was said to be remarkable for such a young player,[20] and he was particularly noted for his high level of stamina.[58] Stanley Matthews described him as being "like a rock in a raging sea",[77] and Bobby Moore likened him to the Rock of Gibraltar when defending but also noted that he was "dynamic coming forward".[48] His imposing physique earned him the nicknames "Big Dunc" and "The Tank",[62] and he has been ranked amongst the toughest players of all time.[78]

 

Like I said, I'm as far from soccer expert as you can be, but I used to follow it somewhat when I lived overseas and thought he was weird how much people were praising as being a global-level talent and I had never heard of him.

Edited May 31, 2013 by Sammy Sofa

[USSoccer]

Random question since I know so little of the sport: I'm watching a special on the Smithsonian Air Disaster that killed several members of Manchester United in 1958 and there are people talking about Duncan Edwards like he was one of the greatest players who ever lived. Is this at least sorta true or just "he died too soon"-type hyperbole?

 

I think it's hyperbole. He wasn't even one of the greatest players on that plane.

 

Man, really? They were saying stuff along these lines:

 

Contemporaries of Edwards have been unstinting in their praise of his abilities. Bobby Charlton described him as "the only player that made me feel inferior" and said his death was "the biggest single tragedy ever to happen to Manchester United and English football".[73] Terry Venables claimed that, had he lived, it would have been Edwards, not Bobby Moore, who lifted the World Cup trophy as England captain in 1966.[48] Tommy Docherty stated that "there is no doubt in my mind that Duncan would have become the greatest player ever. Not just in British football, with United and England, but the best in the world. George Best was something special, as was Pelé and Maradona, but in my mind Duncan was much better in terms of all-round ability and skill."[74]

 

Calm down, guys.

 

I'm not saying he was bad; I think it's more a case of the guy's legend growing after death, which there's nothing wrong with.

[wolf stansson]

Random question since I know so little of the sport: I'm watching a special on the Smithsonian Air Disaster that killed several members of Manchester United in 1958 and there are people talking about Duncan Edwards like he was one of the greatest players who ever lived. Is this at least sorta true or just "he died too soon"-type hyperbole?

 

I think it's hyperbole. He wasn't even one of the greatest players on that plane.

The English are obsessed with the concept of the grindy, white team captain figure. If they were Americans they'd be the type that would argue that Larry Bird was better than LeBron James because he was more of a hard nosed competitor.

[Sammy Sofa]

Random question since I know so little of the sport: I'm watching a special on the Smithsonian Air Disaster that killed several members of Manchester United in 1958 and there are people talking about Duncan Edwards like he was one of the greatest players who ever lived. Is this at least sorta true or just "he died too soon"-type hyperbole?

 

I think it's hyperbole. He wasn't even one of the greatest players on that plane.

 

Man, really? They were saying stuff along these lines:

 

Contemporaries of Edwards have been unstinting in their praise of his abilities. Bobby Charlton described him as "the only player that made me feel inferior" and said his death was "the biggest single tragedy ever to happen to Manchester United and English football".[73] Terry Venables claimed that, had he lived, it would have been Edwards, not Bobby Moore, who lifted the World Cup trophy as England captain in 1966.[48] Tommy Docherty stated that "there is no doubt in my mind that Duncan would have become the greatest player ever. Not just in British football, with United and England, but the best in the world. George Best was something special, as was Pelé and Maradona, but in my mind Duncan was much better in terms of all-round ability and skill."[74]

 

Calm down, guys.

 

I'm not saying he was bad; I think it's more a case of the guy's legend growing after death, which there's nothing wrong with.

 

Oh, I'm not throwing it in your face or anything; I didn't really know anything about this besides the Morrissey song. Was this a genuinely great team?

[wolf stansson]

Yeah. They were really young and really good and Bobby Charlton was just breaking into the senior squad. They would've won a handful of major trophies.

[USSoccer]

Oh, I'm not throwing it in your face or anything; I didn't really know anything about this besides the Morrissey song. Was this a genuinely great team?

 

Yeah, they were the first English team to be any good on the continent; they were leading the English league and probably would have won that European Cup had the crash not happened.

[Sammy Sofa]

Yeah. They were really young and really good and Bobby Charlton was just breaking into the senior squad. They would've won a handful of major trophies.

 

See, now Charlton I had actually heard of. Man, that's fucked up that a team gets cut down like that.

[wolf stansson]

Yeah. They were really young and really good and Bobby Charlton was just breaking into the senior squad. They would've won a handful of major trophies.

 

See, now Charlton I had actually heard of. Man, that's [expletive] up that a team gets cut down like that.

Check out United on Netflix Instant. It's pretty good.

[Sammy Sofa]

Yeah. They were really young and really good and Bobby Charlton was just breaking into the senior squad. They would've won a handful of major trophies.

 

See, now Charlton I had actually heard of. Man, that's [expletive] up that a team gets cut down like that.

Check out United on Netflix Instant. It's pretty good.

 

Thanks for the heads up. I know it's Leeds, but is The Damned United any good?

[USSoccer]

Yeah. They were really young and really good and Bobby Charlton was just breaking into the senior squad. They would've won a handful of major trophies.

 

See, now Charlton I had actually heard of. Man, that's [expletive] up that a team gets cut down like that.

Check out United on Netflix Instant. It's pretty good.

 

Thanks for the heads up. I know it's Leeds, but is The Damned United any good?

 

Damned United is really good. It's definitely worth a watch. Brian Clough is just an interesting character.

[wolf stansson]

Yeah. They were really young and really good and Bobby Charlton was just breaking into the senior squad. They would've won a handful of major trophies.

 

See, now Charlton I had actually heard of. Man, that's [expletive] up that a team gets cut down like that.

Check out United on Netflix Instant. It's pretty good.

 

Thanks for the heads up. I know it's Leeds, but is The Damned United any good?

 

Damned United is really good. It's definitely worth a watch. Brian Clough is just an interesting character.

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[Sammy Sofa]

Cool. I've been meaning to watch it because of Michael Sheen.

[Guest]

Yeah. They were really young and really good and Bobby Charlton was just breaking into the senior squad. They would've won a handful of major trophies.

 

See, now Charlton I had actually heard of. Man, that's [expletive] up that a team gets cut down like that.

Check out United on Netflix Instant. It's pretty good.

 

Thanks for the heads up. I know it's Leeds, but is The Damned United any good?

 

Damned United is really good. It's definitely worth a watch. Brian Clough is just an interesting character.

 

Agreed. I enjoyed it quite a bit and read the book as well.

 

Clough related, I like the statistic that Nottingham Forest is the only team to win the European Cup (twice) more times than they've won their domestic league (once).

[wolf stansson]

https://twitter.com/dunord/status/340563787771957248/photo/1

 

JOHN. SEAMUS. MCINERNEY.

 

LANDON. TIMOTHY. DONOVAN.

 

MIKKEL. MORGENSTAR. PAALSONN. DISKERUD.

 

JOE. BENNY. CORONA.

 

DANE. BREKKEN. SHEA.

 

DEMARCUS. LAMONT. BEASLEY.

 

BILAL. ABDUL. HAMID.

 

BOBBY. SHOU. WOOD.

 

 

WE GOT SOME LEGIT AWESOME NAMES ON OUR GOLD CUP ROSTER.

[wolf stansson]

Weird that Agudelo isn't in. He's been going good at NE.