The Soccer Thread

[Guest]

Forgot about

 

I'm pretty sure I saw that the goal was his eighth game winner of the year, tops in the EPL and Ian Darke said Bale leads the EPL this year in goals from outside the penalty area, though he didn't give a number.

[wolf stansson]

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/05/07/jozy-altidore-az-arent-going-let-me-go-may-us-national-team-camp

AZ won't release Altidore for May friendlies.

[shnsajax]

They need to be eliminated from the small chance of Europa they have.

[Guest]

Alex Ferguson is retiring at the end of this season.

 

So, Mourinho to Man U then?

[Guest]

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/05/07/jozy-altidore-az-arent-going-let-me-go-may-us-national-team-camp

AZ won't release Altidore for May friendlies.

 

How is it that he won't be available for a May 29 friendly when AZ's season ends on May 12?

[shnsajax]

Alex Ferguson is retiring at the end of this season.

 

So, Mourinho to Man U then?

 

The EPL suddenly got more interesting. Best manager of our lifetime.

[USSoccer]

Oh god please let United hire Mourinho, if for no other reason than to trigger the avalanche of hate from the Chelsea fans.

 

That said, it'll probably be Moyes.

 

Also, Spurs need to win today and Clint needs to play a strong game.

[wolf stansson]

In 1958, all but like 3 players died in the Munich Air disaster.

 

I think Fergie retiring will be the more difficult test of the club's mettle. When the plane crash happened, they still had Matt Busby's leadership. I don't think the Glazers have built a model capable of sustaining longevity without his guidance and even though he's still Club President, I don't think it's enough.

 

His being Club President is exactly why I don't see Mourinho there. He'll go back to Chelsea. David Moyes will manage United.

[Garwilly]

In 1958, all but like 3 players died in the Munich Air disaster.

 

I think Fergie retiring will be the more difficult test of the club's mettle. When the plane crash happened, they still had Matt Busby's leadership. I don't think the Glazers have built a model capable of sustaining longevity without his guidance and even though he's still Club President, I don't think it's enough.

 

His being Club President is exactly why I don't see Mourinho there. He'll go back to Chelsea. David Moyes will manage United.

 

8 players died.

 

Edit: That's not to say the survivors were the regular starters, I have no idea.

[USSoccer]

In 1958, all but like 3 players died in the Munich Air disaster.

 

I think Fergie retiring will be the more difficult test of the club's mettle. When the plane crash happened, they still had Matt Busby's leadership. I don't think the Glazers have built a model capable of sustaining longevity without his guidance and even though he's still Club President, I don't think it's enough.

 

His being Club President is exactly why I don't see Mourinho there. He'll go back to Chelsea. David Moyes will manage United.

 

8 players died.

 

Edit: That's not to say the survivors were the regular starters, I have no idea.

 

It was their entire 1st team in the crash. They finished the year with reserve, youth and loaned players.

[wolf stansson]

In 1958, all but like 3 players died in the Munich Air disaster.

 

8 players died.

 

Edit: That's not to say the survivors were the regular starters, I have no idea.

So you're saying, all but 3. Great! We agree.

It was their entire 1st team in the crash. They finished the year with reserve, youth and loaned players.

Iirc, Bobby Charlton and their keeper were the first-team survivors that were well enough to play soon after. If you had to pick one player to survive mostly unscathed, Bobby Charlton would probably be the one.

Edited May 8, 2013 by wolf stansson

[shnsajax]

Would be cool if Ole Gunnar got the job.

[jersey cubs fan]

In 1958, all but like 3 players died in the Munich Air disaster.

 

I think Fergie retiring will be the more difficult test of the club's mettle.

 

Futbol sure does lend itself to some serious crazy talk.

[wolf stansson]

Twitter is talking like Moyes got the job.

 

In 1958, all but like 3 players died in the Munich Air disaster.

 

I think Fergie retiring will be the more difficult test of the club's mettle.

 

Futbol sure does lend itself to some serious crazy talk.

Please, oh wise soccer expert, explain to me why losing Alex Ferguson when the club is run by monstrous idiots and has a debt sheet deeper than most first-world countries and the squad has aged past sustainability is going to be much easier to overcome in the modern soccer economic landscape than the Munich Air disaster because you know so much about what happened in '58 and how business was done then in English soccer vs what's going to happen now.

Edited May 8, 2013 by wolf stansson

[USSoccer]

In 1958, all but like 3 players died in the Munich Air disaster.

 

I think Fergie retiring will be the more difficult test of the club's mettle.

 

Futbol sure does lend itself to some serious crazy talk.

 

I hear what you're saying, but Wolfie isn't wrong. Fergie is United. He built that hot mess up into one of the top 5 clubs in the world; he's had total control over their transfer and youth policies, and being there nearly 3 decades is some pretty unusual stability in sports, to say nothing of soccer.

 

Given how United are debt-leveraged and what not, replacing Fergie given all that will probably be much, much harder than replacing 8 players would have been in 1958.

[Garwilly]

In 1958, all but like 3 players died in the Munich Air disaster.

 

8 players died.

 

Edit: That's not to say the survivors were the regular starters, I have no idea.

So you're saying, all but 3. Great! We agree.

It was their entire 1st team in the crash. They finished the year with reserve, youth and loaned players.

Iirc, Bobby Charlton and their keeper were the first-team survivors that were well enough to play soon after. If you had to pick one player to survive mostly unscathed, Bobby Charlton would probably be the one.

 

 

I edit to make sure you don't think I am attacking. You edit with that?

 

Wiki lists 9 surviving players. So no, we don't agree.

[USSoccer]

When Kenny Cooper (who had spent some time with the United youth sides) broke his leg playing for FC Dallas, Sir Alex personally sent flowers and a note. Same thing with Specs when he hurt his hip.

 

He might have been an amazingly difficult pain in the ass to play for day in and day out, and was certainly hard on his senior players, but the man took care to remember and care about every single player that ever played for the club.

[wolf stansson]

In 1958, all but like 3 players died in the Munich Air disaster.

 

8 players died.

 

Edit: That's not to say the survivors were the regular starters, I have no idea.

So you're saying, all but 3. Great! We agree.

It was their entire 1st team in the crash. They finished the year with reserve, youth and loaned players.

Iirc, Bobby Charlton and their keeper were the first-team survivors that were well enough to play soon after. If you had to pick one player to survive mostly unscathed, Bobby Charlton would probably be the one.

 

 

I edit to make sure you don't think I am attacking. You edit with that?

 

Wiki lists 9 surviving players. So no, we don't agree.

What are we disagreeing on? The tediously, irrelevant to my overall point semantic fact that I didn't clarify all but 3 starters died rather than all but 3 players in their entire club organization from the u-11 boys team to the senior squad?

[wolf stansson]

Also, Spurs need to win today and Clint needs to play a strong game.

Deuce is benching it today.

[USSoccer]

What are we disagreeing on? The tediously, irrelevant to my overall point semantic fact that I didn't clarify all but 3 starters died rather than all but 3 players in their entire club organization from the u-11 boys team to the senior squad?

 

How dare you imply that the kit man and the tea lady died!

 

Be more specific next time instead of just assuming that anyone in the soccer thread just automatically knows that there are XI players in a starting lineup. Who could possibly just know that? It would take, like 11 seconds of research.

[USSoccer]

Also, Spurs need to win today and Clint needs to play a strong game.

Deuce is benching it today.

 

Balls. Deserved, based on the Southampton game, but balls nonetheless.

[Garwilly]

In 1958, all but like 3 players died in the Munich Air disaster.

 

8 players died.

 

Edit: That's not to say the survivors were the regular starters, I have no idea.

So you're saying, all but 3. Great! We agree.

It was their entire 1st team in the crash. They finished the year with reserve, youth and loaned players.

Iirc, Bobby Charlton and their keeper were the first-team survivors that were well enough to play soon after. If you had to pick one player to survive mostly unscathed, Bobby Charlton would probably be the one.

 

 

I edit to make sure you don't think I am attacking. You edit with that?

 

Wiki lists 9 surviving players. So no, we don't agree.

What are we disagreeing on? The tediously, irrelevant to my overall point semantic fact that I didn't clarify all but 3 starters died rather than all but 3 players in their entire club organization from the u-11 boys team to the senior squad?

 

I posted a simple note, just to put a little context around the scale of it, nothing more.

 

You then sniped back with a remark of "11-8=3", which is obviously an oversimplification. Quit being a dick.

[USSoccer]

 

I posted a simple note, just to put a little context around the scale of it, nothing more.

 

You then sniped back with a remark of "11-8=3", which is obviously an oversimplification. Quit being a dick.

 

It was still most of their first team, which was Wolf's point in the first place.

[Garwilly]

 

I posted a simple note, just to put a little context around the scale of it, nothing more.

 

You then sniped back with a remark of "11-8=3", which is obviously an oversimplification. Quit being a dick.

 

It was still most of their first team, which was Wolf's point in the first place.

 

Agreed, and I'm not taking any umbrage with that at all. In fact I went out of my way to say so.

[wolf stansson]

Also, Spurs need to win today and Clint needs to play a strong game.

Deuce is benching it today.

 

Balls. Deserved, based on the Southampton game, but balls nonetheless.

I've watched a bunch of Tottenham this year but maybe somebody like soccer10k who's watched/follower more than me will disagree with this: there's no way a bad game vs Southampton means Lewis Holtby, let alone Adebayor deserve the nod over Deuce.

 

First, Holtby has done nothing. Second, Adebayor is god awful. Clint should start over those guys based on production alone.

Clint plays really, really well against Chelsea. Always has. I think AVB is over-thinking this one.