The Soccer Thread

[Exile on Waveland]

Wow Barcelona. :(

 

Suck it, Mascher.

[USSoccer]

Wow Barcelona. :(

 

Suck it, Mascher.

 

x200000000

[wolf stansson]

Aahahhahaha

 

First this:

 

http://www.soccerbyives.net/.a/6a00e54ef2975b88330134874c09ff970c-400wi

 

Then this:

@taylortwellmen yes #Becks borrowed a jersey out of my closet but he didn't ask me if he could steal my thunder. better to b copied than to copy I guess :)

[Mark Priors Calves]

Champions league group stage starts tomorrow. Don't forget Directv's game mix channel and coverage of the games in the 480's.

[Guest]

Champions league group stage starts tomorrow. Don't forget Directv's game mix channel and coverage of the games in the 480's.

 

Thank you for the reminder. I had totally forgotten when it was starting.

[Guest]

Valencia had his ankle snapped today. Looked pretty ugly.

[shnsajax]

Lots of goals today.

 

United draw to Rangers is nice for them. Inter also drawing is a surprise.

[wolf stansson]

I give Mo a 7 today. Was composed and disciplined in the midfield. Was the only mid who tried to do anything going forward trailing the striker.

[Guest]

Really well done USA World Cup video here.

 

 

Warning: The first 2-3 minutes are pretty much all about how the US has gotten the officiating shaft in three consecutive World Cups.

[USSoccer]

Really well done USA World Cup video here.

 

 

Warning: The first 2-3 minutes are pretty much all about how the US has gotten the officiating shaft in three consecutive World Cups.

 

I saw that yesterday; whoever put that together did a great job.

 

Also, it made me bitter all over again about the two disallowed goals. A rested team beats Ghana.

[Magnetic Curses]

is it a rule that after every goal the keeper has to raise his hand?

[USSoccer]

is it a rule that after every goal the keeper has to raise his hand?

 

If only he would have raised his effing hands when he let in the game winner against us...

[Mark Priors Calves]

USA-Argentina friendlies for next year look to be taking shape.

[jersey cubs fan]

http://deadspin.com/5639853/who-is-pretending-to-be-the-togo-soccer-team

 

Fake Togo Football Club should be a real team name.

[wolf stansson]

Thomas Muller, the young Bayern Munich striker, scored 2 at the weekend and 2 today. He is a seriously, seriously good young player. He's got it all. I don't think it's out of the question to group him with Pato, Aguero and the like in terms of special young forwards.

Top of the list. Sweet Jesus that goal yesterday was filthy.

[wolf stansson]

US U-20 forward moves from Santos Laguna to Celtic on some sort of loan agreement: http://www.yanks-abroad.com/get.php?mode=blog&entry=117

[USSoccer]

Deuce on the scoresheet today. 1-1 with Blackburn, but Hughes inexplicably pulled him for EJ.

[wolf stansson]

Hughes inexplicably pulled him for EJ.

Who suuuuuucked. That dude is so ineffectual on the field. Makes really stupid decisions off the ball.

[shnsajax]

Klinsman speaks:

"We had conversations, maybe about three or four weeks period of time, and very positive conversations. But we didn't get it to a positive ending because we couldn't put into writing what we agreed to verbally,'' Klinsmann said during an interview broadcast Sunday on the Kansas City Wizards' pregame show.

 

"It's obviously always about authority. When you have conversations with a club team or a national team, it's who has the last word in what issues, and that's where we couldn't get into the written terms,'' Klinsmann said.

 

"Verbally we agreed on that the technical side is my side, and I should have a 100 percent control of it. Written terms, they couldn't commit to it. At that point I said, 'Well then, I can't get the job done because I have to have the last say as a head coach for my entire staff, for all the players issues, for everything that happens with the team.' Unfortunately they couldn't commit to that, and that was basically the end of our talks, and then they agreed then to continue with Bob as the head coach, and that's totally fine.''

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/soccer/09/20/klinsmann.usa.ap

[USSoccer]

Klinsman speaks:

"We had conversations, maybe about three or four weeks period of time, and very positive conversations. But we didn't get it to a positive ending because we couldn't put into writing what we agreed to verbally,'' Klinsmann said during an interview broadcast Sunday on the Kansas City Wizards' pregame show.

 

"It's obviously always about authority. When you have conversations with a club team or a national team, it's who has the last word in what issues, and that's where we couldn't get into the written terms,'' Klinsmann said.

 

"Verbally we agreed on that the technical side is my side, and I should have a 100 percent control of it. Written terms, they couldn't commit to it. At that point I said, 'Well then, I can't get the job done because I have to have the last say as a head coach for my entire staff, for all the players issues, for everything that happens with the team.' Unfortunately they couldn't commit to that, and that was basically the end of our talks, and then they agreed then to continue with Bob as the head coach, and that's totally fine.''

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/soccer/09/20/klinsmann.usa.ap

 

I don't buy it. This smells of spin to me.

 

EDIT: I have zero issue with Klinsmann, or Bradley, or anyone as USMNT coach having final say on their coaching staff, and if USSF really made that an issue, then they're idiots.

 

However, if Klinsi wanted complete, final decision making authority on everything from roster selection to friendly scheduling and youth development, USSF was spot on in denying him those things, because at the end of the day, that isn't the job of the USMNT manager. That's way, waaaay too much control asked of someone who's done nothing to deserve it.

Edited September 21, 2010 by USSoccer

[shnsajax]

Klinsman speaks:

"We had conversations, maybe about three or four weeks period of time, and very positive conversations. But we didn't get it to a positive ending because we couldn't put into writing what we agreed to verbally,'' Klinsmann said during an interview broadcast Sunday on the Kansas City Wizards' pregame show.

 

"It's obviously always about authority. When you have conversations with a club team or a national team, it's who has the last word in what issues, and that's where we couldn't get into the written terms,'' Klinsmann said.

 

"Verbally we agreed on that the technical side is my side, and I should have a 100 percent control of it. Written terms, they couldn't commit to it. At that point I said, 'Well then, I can't get the job done because I have to have the last say as a head coach for my entire staff, for all the players issues, for everything that happens with the team.' Unfortunately they couldn't commit to that, and that was basically the end of our talks, and then they agreed then to continue with Bob as the head coach, and that's totally fine.''

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/soccer/09/20/klinsmann.usa.ap

 

I don't buy it. This smells of spin to me.

 

Sounds similar to 2006. Grant Wahl sent a question about it to Gulati about it and his response was "No Comment."

[USSoccer]

Klinsman speaks:

"We had conversations, maybe about three or four weeks period of time, and very positive conversations. But we didn't get it to a positive ending because we couldn't put into writing what we agreed to verbally,'' Klinsmann said during an interview broadcast Sunday on the Kansas City Wizards' pregame show.

 

"It's obviously always about authority. When you have conversations with a club team or a national team, it's who has the last word in what issues, and that's where we couldn't get into the written terms,'' Klinsmann said.

 

"Verbally we agreed on that the technical side is my side, and I should have a 100 percent control of it. Written terms, they couldn't commit to it. At that point I said, 'Well then, I can't get the job done because I have to have the last say as a head coach for my entire staff, for all the players issues, for everything that happens with the team.' Unfortunately they couldn't commit to that, and that was basically the end of our talks, and then they agreed then to continue with Bob as the head coach, and that's totally fine.''

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/soccer/09/20/klinsmann.usa.ap

 

I don't buy it. This smells of spin to me.

 

Sounds similar to 2006. Grant Wahl sent a question about it to Gulati about it and his response was "No Comment."

 

I edited my original post:

 

EDIT: I have zero issue with Klinsmann, or Bradley, or anyone as USMNT coach having final say on their coaching staff, and if USSF really made that an issue, then they're idiots.

 

However, if Klinsi wanted complete, final decision making authority on everything from roster selection to friendly scheduling and youth development, USSF was spot on in denying him those things, because at the end of the day, that isn't the job of the USMNT manager. That's way, waaaay too much control asked of someone who's done nothing to deserve it.

[USSoccer]

The other thing is, at the end of the day it won't be USSF or Bradenton making the big developmental strides that take us from the 2nd tier to the top tier of international play. It's going to be the MLS developmental/residential academies.

 

MLS is making some serious strides in this area. FC Dallas is opening a residential academy and keeps signing players from its DA into the senior side, and it's paying dividends. Other sides in the league are also working on or opening DA's. Red Bull New York is pumping a mint into player development in the Tri State area. The Generation Adidas money that's being pumped in and the new developmental contract Adidas just signed is going to make a ton more difference than any USMNT coach changing the program at Bradenton. Not all of those players will end up being US players (Najar) or end up as impact players, but the more developmental guys there are, the more will succeed. The league sees this, too, and is moving more toward the feeder league model that it needs to be (Erdevisie) than the past business model (?). MLS teams have figured out they can make bank. If they can turn a Rodney Wallace into Steve Cherundolo a few times, it pays for itself and then some. If they can turn one Cherundolo into a Phillip Lahm, or a Pontius into a Dempsey or a Dempsey into a Ronaldo, then they really make bank.

 

This is the area that serious fans of the USMNT need to embrace. MLS is going to be the make or break for our program, and it's imperative that fans of the USMNT find a way to support MLS.

[Guest]

However, if Klinsi wanted complete, final decision making authority on everything from roster selection to friendly scheduling and youth development, USSF was spot on in denying him those things, because at the end of the day, that isn't the job of the USMNT manager. That's way, waaaay too much control asked of someone who's done nothing to deserve it.

 

Isn't that what he had in Germany? And isn't he credited(with a couple others) for putting them in the outstanding position they're in today?

[USSoccer]

However, if Klinsi wanted complete, final decision making authority on everything from roster selection to friendly scheduling and youth development, USSF was spot on in denying him those things, because at the end of the day, that isn't the job of the USMNT manager. That's way, waaaay too much control asked of someone who's done nothing to deserve it.

 

Isn't that what he had in Germany? And isn't he credited(with a couple others) for putting them in the outstanding position they're in today?

 

He had control of his staff, not of overall operations of the national team. He put Low in charge of tactics, which was his best move-identifying a fantastic assistant and giving him free reign.

 

The overhaul of Germany's youth development system had nothing to do with Klinsi.