08/19 St. Louis (Suppan) @ CUBS (Zambrano) 12:20 CDT, FOX TV

[Andy]

Blanco - strikes out swinging

[Brian]

Wuertz is a beast.

 

And lucky...1/2 inch away from being a GS

 

that applies to the 10th inning, Getting the best hitter in the game on luck is fine by me.

[Andy]

Cedeno - walks (intentionally)

[Brian]

let's go Nevin!

[YearofDaCubs]

I love seing Baker and LaRussa try and outsmart each other. That being said, I felt one of the best moments I've seen was when Baker and LaRussa went at it from dugout to dugout back in 2003.

[Bruno7481]

Wuertz is a beast.

 

And lucky...1/2 inch away from being a GS

 

that applies to the 10th inning, Getting the best hitter in the game on luck is fine by me.

 

I know...I'm wth ya.

[EastonBlues22]

Baseballs greatest fans have officially gone ballistic over taking Duncan out and are gathering their torches and pitchforks to go after Tony "I'm a Genius" La Russa.

 

I believe they call him worse names than Dusty gets here.

 

Which site?

 

GatewayRedbirds?

 

And if so, where is there game thread located?

It's not GatewayRedbirds...must be CardsTalk.

 

Go figure.

[Brian]

NICE!

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

Cedeno - walks (intentionally)

 

Backfired....Nevin with the game winning hit.

[Bruno7481]

Phil with a freakin frozen rope to win!

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Statistically, walking Cedeno to face Nevin isn't a high percentage move.

[Andy]

Nevin - singles to left field, Jones scores

 

CUBS WIN! CUBS WIN! CUBS WIN!

 

W: Wuertz

L: Isringhausen

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

And the point is proven!

[Brian]

I don't know if I should enjoy this Cardinals domination or find it depressing during this season.

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

Statistically, walking Cedeno to face Nevin isn't a high percentage move.

 

Personally, I thought it was a mistake on TLR's part. It not exactly impossible to get Cedeno chasing pitches.

[sherwood921]

Shoulda pinch hit Izturis...

[chuckywang]

NEVIN!!!!!

[UMFan83]

First walk off win all year

[NorthsideAvenger]

NEVIN!!!!!

 

The Cubs are in 7th Nevin, today..... 8)

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

NEVIN!!!!!

 

The Cubs are in 7th Nevin, today..... 8)

 

How long have you waiting to use that line? :lol:

[Soriano12]

Great win for the Cubs today.

 

Dempster is still garbage.

[chuckywang]

Baseballs greatest fans have officially gone ballistic over taking Duncan out and are gathering their torches and pitchforks to go after Tony "I'm a Genius" La Russa.

 

I believe they call him worse names than Dusty gets here.

 

Which site?

 

GatewayRedbirds?

 

And if so, where is there game thread located?

 

Hah, it's on Gateway Redbirds.

 

I just read that thread. I guess the real problem is that Tony La Russa made a move that, in the end, didn't work out. They're getting on Tony for not being able to predict the future.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Baseballs greatest fans have officially gone ballistic over taking Duncan out and are gathering their torches and pitchforks to go after Tony "I'm a Genius" La Russa.

 

I believe they call him worse names than Dusty gets here.

 

Which site?

 

GatewayRedbirds?

 

And if so, where is there game thread located?

 

Hah, it's on Gateway Redbirds.

 

I just read that thread. I guess the real problem is that Tony La Russa made a move that, in the end, didn't work out. They're getting on Tony for not being able to predict the future.

 

Actually, they should get on Tony. Statistically, a DP occurs a little over 10% of the time. Walking a hitter in order to set up a DP is almost always a bad move.

[CubColtPacer]

Baseballs greatest fans have officially gone ballistic over taking Duncan out and are gathering their torches and pitchforks to go after Tony "I'm a Genius" La Russa.

 

I believe they call him worse names than Dusty gets here.

 

Which site?

 

GatewayRedbirds?

 

And if so, where is there game thread located?

 

Hah, it's on Gateway Redbirds.

 

I just read that thread. I guess the real problem is that Tony La Russa made a move that, in the end, didn't work out. They're getting on Tony for not being able to predict the future.

 

Actually, they should get on Tony. Statistically, a DP occurs a little over 10% of the time. Walking a hitter in order to set up a DP is almost always a bad move.

 

Vance, I think they were referencing Tony's decision to take Duncan out in the 9th and pinch hit Encarnacion-that got those Cardinal fans up and yelling at Tony apparently.

 

Also, I think that the walk to set up the DP would be a little different statistically if a team only needs 1 run to win-which makes the walk meaningless if you can trust the pitcher to not walk anyone else. Personally, I don't think they made the right move-because Nevin hits a lot of fly balls-but at the same time, for one thing if he does hit in on the ground he is a prime DP candidate, and even more important than that is the fact that he had struck out 13 times out of 28 at bats in August. While Cedeno has struck out a decent amount, he has been better at making contact in August, and if he makes contact the game is probably over. Tony probably used those recent numbers to think he had a pretty good shot of either striking Nevin out or getting him to ground into a DP-it was a gamble, but a decent gamble.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Baseballs greatest fans have officially gone ballistic over taking Duncan out and are gathering their torches and pitchforks to go after Tony "I'm a Genius" La Russa.

 

I believe they call him worse names than Dusty gets here.

 

Which site?

 

GatewayRedbirds?

 

And if so, where is there game thread located?

 

Hah, it's on Gateway Redbirds.

 

I just read that thread. I guess the real problem is that Tony La Russa made a move that, in the end, didn't work out. They're getting on Tony for not being able to predict the future.

 

Actually, they should get on Tony. Statistically, a DP occurs a little over 10% of the time. Walking a hitter in order to set up a DP is almost always a bad move.

 

Vance, I think they were referencing Tony's decision to take Duncan out in the 9th and pinch hit Encarnacion-that got those Cardinal fans up and yelling at Tony apparently.

 

Also, I think that the walk to set up the DP would be a little different statistically if a team only needs 1 run to win-which makes the walk meaningless if you can trust the pitcher to not walk anyone else. Personally, I don't think they made the right move-because Nevin hits a lot of fly balls-but at the same time, for one thing if he does hit in on the ground he is a prime DP candidate, and even more important than that is the fact that he had struck out 13 times out of 28 at bats in August. While Cedeno has struck out a decent amount, he has been better at making contact in August, and if he makes contact the game is probably over. Tony probably used those recent numbers to think he had a pretty good shot of either striking Nevin out or getting him to ground into a DP-it was a gamble, but a decent gamble.

 

He had about a 10-12% chance it work. It was a poor gamble any way you look at it.