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I'm thinking 2 seperate deals:

 

Maddux, Walker, both pitching prospects gained in Williamson deal and Neifi (if they want him) for Izturis and Andre Ethier.

 

A combination of Hill, Cedeno, Ryu, Theriot, Novoa and Pie for Tejada.

I would do this if Theriot was not involved... cause if he is we would not have a second baseman. Then again... i guess you could put Tejada at second

Izturis would be our 2B

oh yay.. i miss read it.. I thought Izturis was being traded to get us Tejada... in that case IDC if Theriot is in the deal or not

 

In the original post it was stated that Izturis would be part of the package being sent to Baltimore. If that's the case, why not just put Ronny at second and Tejada at short?

here is the post i said i miss read
I'm thinking 2 seperate deals:

 

Maddux, Walker, both pitching prospects gained in Williamson deal and Neifi (if they want him) for Izturis and Andre Ethier.

 

A combination of Hill, Cedeno, Ryu, Theriot, Novoa and Pie for Tejada.

 

I realize that. I'm talking about the post that started the thread. The post that referenced Phil Rogers.

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In the original post it was stated that Izturis would be part of the package being sent to Baltimore. If that's the case, why not just put Ronny at second and Tejada at short?

here is the post i said i miss read
I'm thinking 2 seperate deals:

 

Maddux, Walker, both pitching prospects gained in Williamson deal and Neifi (if they want him) for Izturis and Andre Ethier.

 

A combination of Hill, Cedeno, Ryu, Theriot, Novoa and Pie for Tejada.

 

I realize that. I'm talking about the post that started the thread. The post that referenced Phil Rogers.

ah i see now... so you are saying based on the original post put ronny at second..and tejada at short... either way.. as long as we have tejada in the lineup.
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I'm thinking 2 seperate deals:

 

Maddux, Walker, both pitching prospects gained in Williamson deal and Neifi (if they want him) for Izturis and Andre Ethier.

 

A combination of Hill, Cedeno, Ryu, Theriot, Novoa and Pie for Tejada.

I would do this if Theriot was not involved... cause if he is we would not have a second baseman. Then again... i guess you could put Tejada at second

 

I like Fontenot's power potential and good discipline at 2B more than Theriot. He would probably be better. Theriot is probably going to be best as a utility man, not a starter.

 

Any pursuit of Izturis is a waste of time.

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I'm thinking 2 seperate deals:

 

Maddux, Walker, both pitching prospects gained in Williamson deal and Neifi (if they want him) for Izturis and Andre Ethier.

 

A combination of Hill, Cedeno, Ryu, Theriot, Novoa and Pie for Tejada.

I would do this if Theriot was not involved... cause if he is we would not have a second baseman. Then again... i guess you could put Tejada at second

 

I like Fontenot's power potential and good discipline at 2B more than Theriot. He would probably be better. Theriot is probably going to be best as a utility man, not a starter.

 

Any pursuit of Izturis is a waste of time.

I agree that Izturis would just be a straight waste of time..... and to me Theriot and Fontenot are basically the same player except for the fact that Theriot has less power.
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I'm thinking 2 seperate deals:

 

Maddux, Walker, both pitching prospects gained in Williamson deal and Neifi (if they want him) for Izturis and Andre Ethier.

 

A combination of Hill, Cedeno, Ryu, Theriot, Novoa and Pie for Tejada.

I would do this if Theriot was not involved... cause if he is we would not have a second baseman. Then again... i guess you could put Tejada at second

 

I like Fontenot's power potential and good discipline at 2B more than Theriot. He would probably be better. Theriot is probably going to be best as a utility man, not a starter.

 

Any pursuit of Izturis is a waste of time.

I agree that Izturis would just be a straight waste of time..... and to me Theriot and Fontenot are basically the same player except for the fact that Theriot has less power.

 

Theriot brings a little more versatility than Fontenot. Theriot can play sort, but I'm pretty sure Fontenot is limited to second and third. Theriot's defense is a bit better than Fontenot as well.

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I'm thinking 2 seperate deals:

 

Maddux, Walker, both pitching prospects gained in Williamson deal and Neifi (if they want him) for Izturis and Andre Ethier.

 

A combination of Hill, Cedeno, Ryu, Theriot, Novoa and Pie for Tejada.

I would do this if Theriot was not involved... cause if he is we would not have a second baseman. Then again... i guess you could put Tejada at second

 

I like Fontenot's power potential and good discipline at 2B more than Theriot. He would probably be better. Theriot is probably going to be best as a utility man, not a starter.

 

Any pursuit of Izturis is a waste of time.

I agree that Izturis would just be a straight waste of time..... and to me Theriot and Fontenot are basically the same player except for the fact that Theriot has less power.

 

Theriot brings a little more versatility than Fontenot. Theriot can play sort, but I'm pretty sure Fontenot is limited to second and third. Theriot's defense is a bit better than Fontenot as well.

 

So if you already have a starting second baseman, Theriot is more valuable, but as a starting second baseman, Fontenot is likely better due to his bat?

 

Agreed.

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I'm thinking 2 seperate deals:

 

Maddux, Walker, both pitching prospects gained in Williamson deal and Neifi (if they want him) for Izturis and Andre Ethier.

 

A combination of Hill, Cedeno, Ryu, Theriot, Novoa and Pie for Tejada.

I would do this if Theriot was not involved... cause if he is we would not have a second baseman. Then again... i guess you could put Tejada at second

 

I like Fontenot's power potential and good discipline at 2B more than Theriot. He would probably be better. Theriot is probably going to be best as a utility man, not a starter.

 

Any pursuit of Izturis is a waste of time.

I agree that Izturis would just be a straight waste of time..... and to me Theriot and Fontenot are basically the same player except for the fact that Theriot has less power.

 

Theriot brings a little more versatility than Fontenot. Theriot can play sort, but I'm pretty sure Fontenot is limited to second and third. Theriot's defense is a bit better than Fontenot as well.

 

So if you already have a starting second baseman, Theriot is more valuable, but as a starting second baseman, Fontenot is likely better due to his bat?

 

Agreed.

 

I can probably agree with that assessment.

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Theriot brings a little more versatility than Fontenot. Theriot can play sort, but I'm pretty sure Fontenot is limited to second and third. Theriot's defense is a bit better than Fontenot as well.
Theriot can play sort??? did you mean Short. if thats the case then yes... I say make Theriot a utility man and Fontenot a starter.
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Theriot brings a little more versatility than Fontenot. Theriot can play sort, but I'm pretty sure Fontenot is limited to second and third. Theriot's defense is a bit better than Fontenot as well.
Theriot can play sort??? did you mean Short. if thats the case then yes... I say make Theriot a utility man and Fontenot a starter.

 

That's been my thought process for a little while. It's a good way to address the position and 1 spot on the bench for little money, but in order for it to fly for a contending team, OF and SP have to be addressed with the leftover money.

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Theriot brings a little more versatility than Fontenot. Theriot can play sort, but I'm pretty sure Fontenot is limited to second and third. Theriot's defense is a bit better than Fontenot as well.
Theriot can play sort??? did you mean Short. if thats the case then yes... I say make Theriot a utility man and Fontenot a starter.

 

2006 at Iowa:

 

Theriot (275 ab) .305/.369/.378...... 33 StrikeOuts/27 walks/0 HR/ 14 SB

 

Fontenot (299 AB).311/.387/.475..... 52 strike outs/ 38 walks/ 8 HR / 5 SB

 

 

Theriot is 6 months older so age is not a factor.

 

Oddly enough both are out of LSU as is Todd Walker.

 

FWIW, Fontenot was a 2001 first round pick of the Orioles in 2001. Theriot was a third round pick of the Cubs in 2001.

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Theriot brings a little more versatility than Fontenot. Theriot can play sort, but I'm pretty sure Fontenot is limited to second and third. Theriot's defense is a bit better than Fontenot as well.
Theriot can play sort??? did you mean Short. if thats the case then yes... I say make Theriot a utility man and Fontenot a starter.

 

That's been my thought process for a little while. It's a good way to address the position and 1 spot on the bench for little money, but in order for it to fly for a contending team, OF and SP have to be addressed with the leftover money.

yes... if they fill the two 25man roster spots with these two... and dont spend the money on SP and OF I will not go to a single game next year.
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Can someone with greater knowledge explain to me why Fontenot isn't getting a shot up here? He looks like a pretty good hitter based on those nos. this year.
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Can someone with greater knowledge explain to me why Fontenot isn't getting a shot up here? He looks like a pretty good hitter based on those nos. this year.
Personally, I think it is because of Dust Bags.
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Can someone with greater knowledge explain to me why Fontenot isn't getting a shot up here? He looks like a pretty good hitter based on those nos. this year.

 

I have suspicion it may be due to his size (5-8 160) and his lack of speed. Not exactly the type of player Cubs management is too fond of. Hendry was trying to trade Todd Walker, and essentially Fontenot is just a smaller version of Todd Walker.

 

Or maybe they are just waiting until he can get the starting job and trying to maximize his playing time. Coming up due to injury for a bench/part time role would be hard since he's not on the 40 man.

 

The only thing a little concerning to me about him is his strikeout rate. While not abnormally high, he did have some problems making contact in the minor leagues. Fortunately, he has a redeeming BB rate.

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