Mind-boggling Jacque Jones stat

[TruffleShuffle]

I am watching the game between the Cubs and Mets on WB-11 out of New York. When Jacque Jones reaches an 0-2 count, these are the outcomes of his ABs:

 

0-53, 30 strikeouts

 

That's almost hard to do. Maybe just to speed up the game, they can call him out if he gets in a 2-strike hole the rest of the year?

[sherwood921]

I am watching the game between the Cubs and Mets on WB-11 out of New York. When Jacque Jones reaches an 0-2 count, these are the outcomes of his ABs:

 

0-53, 30 strikeouts

 

That's almost hard to do. Maybe just to speed up the game, they can call him out if he gets in a 2-strike hole the rest of the year?

 

ESPN says he's gotten 1 hit, a double after being down 0-2. He's also hitting .349 in the 6 spot, as opposed to only .260 when batting 7th, and we all know the crazy lefty/righty splits. Another interesting (but small sample size) stat is his .063 BA (1/16) when being up on the count 3-1.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Even a camel should be able to get a hit after 0-2 if you give him enough chances.

[TruffleShuffle]

I am watching the game between the Cubs and Mets on WB-11 out of New York. When Jacque Jones reaches an 0-2 count, these are the outcomes of his ABs:

 

0-53, 30 strikeouts

 

That's almost hard to do. Maybe just to speed up the game, they can call him out if he gets in a 2-strike hole the rest of the year?

 

ESPN says he's gotten 1 hit, a double after being down 0-2. He's also hitting .349 in the 6 spot, as opposed to only .260 when batting 7th, and we all know the crazy lefty/righty splits. Another interesting (but small sample size) stat is his .063 BA (1/16) when being up on the count 3-1.

 

Stupid Mets stats! Regardless, his splits are pretty extreme. He has a 189/208/322/530 line when the first pitch of his AB is a strike and is not put in play; when it's a ball, his line is 355/408/618/1026. Basically, he's got twice as good of a chance fo do something productive after a 1-0 count than with an 0-1 count. His numbers when putting the first pitch in play are spectacular, too: 23-39 with 4 HRs, with a line of 590/590/1026/1616. So, when he swings at the first pitch and puts it in play, he's in great shape, but if he misses it or fouls it off, he's screwed.

[Tracer Bullet]

Even a camel should be able to get a hit after 0-2 if you give him enough chances.

 

For some reason this post made me laugh more than it should have. A camel?

[oldcubsfan]

I am watching the game between the Cubs and Mets on WB-11 out of New York. When Jacque Jones reaches an 0-2 count, these are the outcomes of his ABs:

 

0-53, 30 strikeouts

 

That's almost hard to do. Maybe just to speed up the game, they can call him out if he gets in a 2-strike hole the rest of the year?

Well he's hitting over .300 so he must just kill the 0-0 and 0-1 pitches.

[TruffleShuffle]

I am watching the game between the Cubs and Mets on WB-11 out of New York. When Jacque Jones reaches an 0-2 count, these are the outcomes of his ABs:

 

0-53, 30 strikeouts

 

That's almost hard to do. Maybe just to speed up the game, they can call him out if he gets in a 2-strike hole the rest of the year?

Well he's hitting over .300 so he must just kill the 0-0 and 0-1 pitches.

 

0-0 and anything after 1-0. He's awful if he gets behind in the count.

[cubfan1955]

Pujols is batting .195 for his career with an 0-2 count.

[bhogg]

Pujols is batting .195 for his career with an 0-2 count.

 

 

i bet cardinal fans world wide are bitching about this stat

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

Pujols is batting .195 for his career with an 0-2 count.

 

 

i bet cardinal fans world wide are bitching about this stat

 

DFA

[TruffleShuffle]

Pujols is batting .195 for his career with an 0-2 count.

 

That's actually a really good average for that situation.

[Soul]

Pujols is batting .195 for his career with an 0-2 count.

 

 

i bet cardinal fans world wide are bitching about this stat

 

Few players post their best results after being down 0-2.

 

That's part of the frustration of this team's approach. Our hitters work themselves into an 0-2 hole plenty.

 

I'd like to see some stats on the # of times Cub hitters get to an 0-2 count vs. the rest of the league. I'll bet we're close to, or at the top, of that list.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I am watching the game between the Cubs and Mets on WB-11 out of New York. When Jacque Jones reaches an 0-2 count, these are the outcomes of his ABs:

 

0-53, 30 strikeouts

 

That's almost hard to do. Maybe just to speed up the game, they can call him out if he gets in a 2-strike hole the rest of the year?

Well he's hitting over .300 so he must just kill the 0-0 and 0-1 pitches.

 

0-0 and anything after 1-0. He's awful if he gets behind in the count.

 

That's not all that uncommon.

[Bruno7481]

Unreal....

 

The guy has pretty much played beyond expectations all season, and been one of the two most consistent hitters (other being Barrett) all season. Yet, in order to reach the "bash Jacque" quota, a crazy stat like this has to be posted.

[TruffleShuffle]

I am watching the game between the Cubs and Mets on WB-11 out of New York. When Jacque Jones reaches an 0-2 count, these are the outcomes of his ABs:

 

0-53, 30 strikeouts

 

That's almost hard to do. Maybe just to speed up the game, they can call him out if he gets in a 2-strike hole the rest of the year?

Well he's hitting over .300 so he must just kill the 0-0 and 0-1 pitches.

 

0-0 and anything after 1-0. He's awful if he gets behind in the count.

 

That's not all that uncommon.

 

His splits are. Almost everyone is better after 1-0 than 0-1, but most guys don't have a 2:1 difference in OPS given those situations. Most guys also don't have a 1600 OPS when putting the first pitch of the AB in play, and most guys are a lot better than 1-53 with 30 strikeouts when they get in a 2 strike hole.

[TruffleShuffle]

Unreal....

 

The guy has pretty much played beyond expectations all season, and been one of the two most consistent hitters (other being Barrett) all season. Yet, in order to reach the "bash Jacque" quota, a crazy stat like this has to be posted.

 

Or, you're reading something into the post that isn't there? His splits are very strange. That was my point.

[Bruno7481]

Unreal....

 

The guy has pretty much played beyond expectations all season, and been one of the two most consistent hitters (other being Barrett) all season. Yet, in order to reach the "bash Jacque" quota, a crazy stat like this has to be posted.

 

Or, you're reading something into the post that isn't there? His splits are very strange. That was my point.

 

Fair enough.

 

Although anybody's 0-2 splits are going to be pretty bad.

[CuseCubFan69]

Even a camel should be able to get a hit after 0-2 if you give him enough chances.

 

Even with a cigarette in his mouth.

[soccer10k]

I am watching the game between the Cubs and Mets on WB-11 out of New York. When Jacque Jones reaches an 0-2 count, these are the outcomes of his ABs:

 

0-53, 30 strikeouts

 

That's almost hard to do. Maybe just to speed up the game, they can call him out if he gets in a 2-strike hole the rest of the year?

 

ESPN says he's gotten 1 hit, a double after being down 0-2. He's also hitting .349 in the 6 spot, as opposed to only .260 when batting 7th, and we all know the crazy lefty/righty splits. Another interesting (but small sample size) stat is his .063 BA (1/16) when being up on the count 3-1.

 

Stupid Mets stats! Regardless, his splits are pretty extreme. He has a 189/208/322/530 line when the first pitch of his AB is a strike and is not put in play; when it's a ball, his line is 355/408/618/1026. Basically, he's got twice as good of a chance fo do something productive after a 1-0 count than with an 0-1 count. His numbers when putting the first pitch in play are spectacular, too: 23-39 with 4 HRs, with a line of 590/590/1026/1616. So, when he swings at the first pitch and puts it in play, he's in great shape, but if he misses it or fouls it off, he's screwed.

 

Wow on all of Jacque's splits but especially the bolded part. 1.616 OPS. Wow.