Dusty safe -- for now

[Banedon]

According to the Score, Mike Kiley is reporting that Hendry spoke with Dusty, and told him that his job is safe for the time being, and that he'd like to see him finish out the year.

 

Also, Zambrano is ok, and will pitch Friday.

 

EDIT: Split this into it's own thread. If it's true, it deserves it's own discussion.

Edited July 12, 2006 by Banedon

[badger1679666666]

According to the Score, Mike Kiley is reporting that Hendry spoke with Dusty, and told him that his job is safe for the time being, and that he'd like to see him finish out the year.

 

Also, Zambrano is ok, and will pitch Friday.

\

 

3 game winning streaks against the brew crew are apparently huge.

 

Here's to a 15 game losing streak starting out with the Mets. I want Dusty humiliated and Hendry to look like the idiot he is.

[Banedon]

http://www.suntimes.com/output/sports/baker12.html

 

There's no Hendry quotes about Dusty finishing the year...it's just Kiley's speculation.

 

``When there's an announcement to be made, we'll make it, but there's nothing coming any time soon,'' he said. ``The only person making the decision is me.''

[C.C.]

No surprise here...

 

So we are going to get three more months of playing vets over rookies to try to win games this year for what? What a shame...We should be playing Cedeno, Murton, Hill, Marmol and Marshall every damn day! Hendry and the Cubs have no plan what-so-ever. They just plan for today. This just Sox!

[dalgreen]

According to the Score, Mike Kiley is reporting that Hendry spoke with Dusty, and told him that his job is safe for the time being, and that he'd like to see him finish out the year.

 

Also, Zambrano is ok, and will pitch Friday.

\

 

3 game winning streaks against the brew crew are apparently huge.

 

Here's to a 15 game losing streak starting out with the Mets. I want Dusty humiliated and Hendry to look like the idiot he is.

 

I want them both gone. But I don't understand those who want Baker fired right now but are willing to give Hendry another opportunity next year to overpay for mediocrity and "toolsy" players. I will say this for the players, if they wanted Baker gone, they could've laid down against the Brewers thus pretty much solidifying Baker's departure. If the Cubs somehow play well enough to finish .500 or a few games below, does Hendry try to re-sign him?

[FergieJ31]

According to the Score, Mike Kiley is reporting that Hendry spoke with Dusty, and told him that his job is safe for the time being, and that he'd like to see him finish out the year.

 

Bummed but not too surprised. I do expect to see some coaches' heads start rolling soon.

 

Also, Zambrano is ok, and will pitch Friday.

 

Wonderful news - very relieved to hear Z survived the Cora-ttack. Z is one tough hombre.

[Mark Priors Calves]

How can Hendry say this?

 

I haven't changed my stance on Dusty from Day One, People can say or speculate what they want, but I never told people I would make a decision this week and I'm not planning to make one.''

 

He's the one who started all this "speculation" by saying things would be evaluated over the All-Star Break. He's full of crap.

[thedaymen]

``When there's an announcement to be made, we'll make it, but there's nothing coming any time soon,'' he said. ``The only person making the decision is me.''

 

Ok, not to get political, but this is screaming for it.

 

This sounds like the president talking about Rumsfeld. Soon Hendry is going to start referring to himself as 'The Decider.'

[moorecg]

Ok...forget Dusty for a second as his horses were out... ](*,)

 

How can the coaching staff still have a job...I can't think of one single guy on the team, aside from Lee, over the last 2 years that has met or exceeded expectations when it comes to offensive performance. How is no one accountable for that.

[goonys evil twin]

According to the Score, Mike Kiley is reporting that Hendry spoke with Dusty, and told him that his job is safe for the time being, and that he'd like to see him finish out the year.

 

Also, Zambrano is ok, and will pitch Friday.

\

 

3 game winning streaks against the brew crew are apparently huge.

 

Here's to a 15 game losing streak starting out with the Mets. I want Dusty humiliated and Hendry to look like the idiot he is.

 

I want them both gone. But I don't understand those who want Baker fired right now but are willing to give Hendry another opportunity next year to overpay for mediocrity and "toolsy" players.

 

Who is saying they are willing to give Hendry another opportunity? I haven't heard any Hendry support in quite some time around here, certainly not in the posts you quoted. The difference between Hendry and Baker is we know we are stuck with Hendry, because of the contract. There is a chance Baker could be gone. There's blood in the water with Baker, but Hendry's being kept in a high security chamber.

[CubColtPacer]

Ok...forget Dusty for a second as his horses were out... ](*,)

 

How can the coaching staff still have a job...I can't think of one single guy on the team, aside from Lee, over the last 2 years that has met or exceeded expectations when it comes to offensive performance. How is no one accountable for that.

 

I'm not saying that the coaching staff should say..but what about Jones and Barrett? Jones is hitting much better then expected, and Barrett has improved every year since coming to the Cubs. Also, Walker, Murton, and Cedeno have met the expectations of most baseball analysts, and Ramirez met expectations till his tough year this year. That is half the roster this year.

[dalgreen]

Ok...forget Dusty for a second as his horses were out... ](*,)

 

How can the coaching staff still have a job...I can't think of one single guy on the team, aside from Lee, over the last 2 years that has met or exceeded expectations when it comes to offensive performance. How is no one accountable for that.

 

I'm not saying that the coaching staff should say..but what about Jones and Barrett? Jones is hitting much better then expected, and Barrett has improved every year since coming to the Cubs. Also, Walker, Murton, and Cedeno have met the expectations of most baseball analysts, and Ramirez met expectations till his tough year this year. That is half the roster this year.

 

In order to get quality you will have to give up quality. Yeah, Barrett's production has been nice, but it's been nice because we haven't had production from left field in two seasons and right field for a 1 1/3 seasons. If we had high OPS guys in the outfield, we would be okay without Barrett's bat (providing Ramirez hits and our leadoff guy gets on base).

[dalgreen]

According to the Score, Mike Kiley is reporting that Hendry spoke with Dusty, and told him that his job is safe for the time being, and that he'd like to see him finish out the year.

 

Also, Zambrano is ok, and will pitch Friday.

\

 

3 game winning streaks against the brew crew are apparently huge.

 

Here's to a 15 game losing streak starting out with the Mets. I want Dusty humiliated and Hendry to look like the idiot he is.

 

I want them both gone. But I don't understand those who want Baker fired right now but are willing to give Hendry another opportunity next year to overpay for mediocrity and "toolsy" players.

 

Who is saying they are willing to give Hendry another opportunity? I haven't heard any Hendry support in quite some time around here, certainly not in the posts you quoted. The difference between Hendry and Baker is we know we are stuck with Hendry, because of the contract. There is a chance Baker could be gone. There's blood in the water with Baker, but Hendry's being kept in a high security chamber.

 

There have been people, including you, who have said we might as well keep Hendry through 2007 because of his contract, while letting him hire a new manager. I understand it, but don't agree with it. I don't get the faith in Hendry being able to hire a very good manager, let alone creating a roster that would contend for the NL Central.

[goonys evil twin]

There have been people, including you, who have said we might as well keep Hendry through 2007 because of his contract, while letting him hire a new manager. I understand it, but don't agree with it. I don't get the faith in Hendry being able to hire a very good manager, let alone creating a roster that would contend for the NL Central.

 

That is complete BS dalgreen, complete BS.

 

I'm resigned to the fact that Hendry is here through 2007. I don't think we might as well keep him, and I've never said anything like that. I think he should be gone yesterday and I've been saying it for a very long time.

 

That doesn't even come close what you characterize the situation as. Pretty much everybody gave up on Hendry a long time ago. But there's zero chance he won't be back in 2007. There is a significant chance that Baker won't be here, so people are pouncing on that story more.

[Twiggy]

Dusty isn't going to get fired during the season unless the come out of the gates losing the next 12 of 15 or something similar. Based on the way this team plays, that is good possibility.

[Backtobanks]

According to the Score, Mike Kiley is reporting that Hendry spoke with Dusty, and told him that his job is safe for the time being, and that he'd like to see him finish out the year.

 

Also, Zambrano is ok, and will pitch Friday.

\

 

3 game winning streaks against the brew crew are apparently huge.

 

Here's to a 15 game losing streak starting out with the Mets. I want Dusty humiliated and Hendry to look like the idiot he is.

 

I want them both gone. But I don't understand those who want Baker fired right now but are willing to give Hendry another opportunity next year to overpay for mediocrity and "toolsy" players. I will say this for the players, if they wanted Baker gone, they could've laid down against the Brewers thus pretty much solidifying Baker's departure. If the Cubs somehow play well enough to finish .500 or a few games below, does Hendry try to re-sign him?

 

The Cubs would have to play .635 ball for the rest of the season to end up at .500. Counting the 3 game win streak that would be .650 ball over the last 77 games. If Dusty does that, not only will he get re-signed, but probably a big raise to go with it. But fear not, it ain't going to happen.

[Banedon]

I don't get the faith in Hendry being able to hire a very good manager, let alone creating a roster that would contend for the NL Central.

 

Um, I don't think we have faith, we're just resigned to the fact that Hendry isn't going to get fired a few months after signing a 2 year extension.

[dalgreen]

There have been people, including you, who have said we might as well keep Hendry through 2007 because of his contract, while letting him hire a new manager. I understand it, but don't agree with it. I don't get the faith in Hendry being able to hire a very good manager, let alone creating a roster that would contend for the NL Central.

 

That is complete BS dalgreen, complete BS.

 

I'm resigned to the fact that Hendry is here through 2007. I don't think we might as well keep him, and I've never said anything like that. I think he should be gone yesterday and I've been saying it for a very long time.

 

That doesn't even come close what you characterize the situation as. Pretty much everybody gave up on Hendry a long time ago. But there's zero chance he won't be back in 2007. There is a significant chance that Baker won't be here, so people are pouncing on that story more.

 

You saying that is completely BS is completely BS, goony. You said it last week in a post we responded to. I never, never said you like the guy, I said you, and others, have said that we might as well keep him and let him hire a manager and if it fails then he's gone after 2007, which is basically what I stated above. Did I misrepresent your feeling?

 

I'm saying let's cut the middle man because I don't think he's capable of hiring a good manager, so eat his contract and hire a new GM.

[Banedon]

You saying that is completely BS is completely BS, goony. You said it last week in a post we responded to. I never, never said you like the guy, I said you, and others, have said that we might as well keep him and let him hire a manager and if it fails then he's gone after 2007, which is basically what I stated above. Did I misrepresent your feeling?

 

I'm saying let's cut the middle man because I don't think he's capable of hiring a good manager, so eat his contract and hire a new GM.

 

For arguments sake, I think this is the post you're referring to...

 

I still maintain that the best thing would be for Baker and Hendry to go. I have no confidence and no faith in either of the two, and I suspect as long as Hendry is the one (along with the current Cub scouts, something he's also responsible for) responsible for constructing teams, we won't be contenders.

 

Hendry will be gone if the losing continues, but he's safe through next year. So give him a chance to hire a new guy and make it work, if it doesn't, they're all out in a top to bottom house cleaning.

 

I think goony's point is that Hendry is safe, whether we like it or not, so rather than keep Dusty during that time, get a new manager in there. If he fails, then Hendry WILL get fired.

[goonys evil twin]

You saying that is completely BS is completely BS, goony. You said it last week in a post we responded to. I never, never said you like the guy, I said you, and others, have said that we might as well keep him and let him hire a manager and if it fails then he's gone after 2007, which is basically what I stated above. Did I misrepresent your feeling?

 

I'm saying let's cut the middle man because I don't think he's capable of hiring a good manager, so eat his contract and hire a new GM.

 

Give me a break. I've been pretty clear on my anti-Hendry stance for a while. I might have said we might as well see if Hendry can turn things around with a new manager, but that is only because we might as well face the facts that he is returning. And it would have been in response to somebody claiming there's no point in firing Dusty. You are completely misconstruing what has been said, and if I didn't think I knew better I'd say it was on purpose.

 

I CLEARLY WANT HENDRY GONE. I haven't liked much of what he's done for several years now. There is a difference between Hendry and Baker, as Hendry has at least shown the potential willingness for change, and he's only 3.5 years into his career as GM. Baker is 100% stuck in his ways and has proven that for over a decade. I don't have any faith in Hendry getting the job done, but he's definitely here for at least 2007, so we might as well see what he can do with a new manager. That does not even come close to saying I want to give him another chance.

[Irrelevant Dude]

Just heard a piece of an interview on the Score where Hendry repeated his comments from earlier this year that Dusty will not be fired. I think my dislike for Hendry is on the verge of surpassing my dislike of Baker.

 

Hendry invites all the speculation with the way he is handling the situation. He either needed to fire Baker or guarantee that he will be here until the end of the season, but he did neither.

Edited July 12, 2006 by Irrelevant Dude

[Sammy Sofa]

Or to put it in even more simple terms...none of us WANT Hendry back, but, short of a miracle, we're resigned to the fact we HAVE to have him back.

[halplm]

The Cubs may have turned a corner... they may play about .500 ball the rest of the year... this will result in us sucking just as badly next year with no plan for the future.

 

If Hendry acts like a buyer going up to the trading deadline... he's not only incompetant... but insane as well...

[Caryatid]

The Cubs may have turned a corner... they may play about .500 ball the rest of the year... this will result in us sucking just as badly next year with no plan for the future.

 

If Hendry acts like a buyer going up to the trading deadline... he's not only incompetant... but insane as well...

 

I would not be surprised to see that, if the team does play .500 ball for the rest of the year, Baker gets offered a contract. Hendry will say that "he didn't have a healthy roster, but did a great job and finished well. He's given us a lot to look forward to for next year."

[Ding Dong Johnson]

If Hendry acts like a buyer going up to the trading deadline... he's not only incompetant... but insane as well...

 

That's absolutely not true if he acquires players that will help the team win in 2007. We can afford to not be sellers.