6/25 Cubs (Marshall) at Twins (Radke) 1:10 CST WGN TV

[Fred Hornkohl]

CUBS are 0-6 when they trail by 8 or more runs at the end of 8 innings.

 

Go CUBS !!

[Blueheart05]

Marshall deserves better than this. I hope he stays mentally tough and learns from this.

 

As much as people here have been drooling over Marshall, his numbers have not been all that good this season. He's handled himself well, all things considered, but I don't think he's proven much more than any other pitching prospect in this system.

 

I mean, for heaven's sake, his ERA is 4.92 with an away ERA of 6.53! That's just dreadful.

 

I don't think drooling is the word. No one projected him as a number one starter. He made a huge jump from the low Minors and he's held his own.

 

hill made a bigger jump last year, struggled a little, and has been written off by many.

 

The circumstances were different last year. This season, look at Marshall's first 4 starts compared to Hill's. Marshall gave up 4/4/2/0 ERs while Hill surrendered 5/5/3/7 ERs. It's no wonder he was sent down. Like I said before, I think Hill will get another chance but he certainly didn't take advantage of his opportunities.

 

Marshall has been inconsistent but that's to be expected. Unlike Hill, he's shown some dominance on this level; In 8 of his 15 starts he's given up 2 or fewer runs.

 

that's not true. marshall gave up as many runs in his first start as hill did in his first three extended outings combined. hill followed up 4 1/3 hitless innings of relief with two starts of two runs allowed each.

 

i'm certainly not arguing that hill's been better than marshall, but hill has shown flashes of success. his overall numbers in '05 were hurt by two horrible outings.

 

 

Like I said, the situation last year was different. This season, they brought a rookie North. Hill didn't impress out of Spring Training but when he got his opportunity this year he didn't out perform Marshall... I'm not saying Marshall has the best stuff but he's been able to limit the bad outings as well as the idea that he's overmatched.

 

I'm not arguing against Hill as much as I am arguing for Marshall. Again, no one projected him as a number one starter but in more than half of his starts he has given the team the opportunity to win.

 

For my part, they need to allow Marshall, Guzman, Marmol, and Hill to all pitch (along with Zambrano and Prior). The Cubs should trade Maddux and develop the young arms in the rotation and bullpen.

Edited June 25, 2006 by Blueheart05

[Fred Hornkohl]

Eyre in to pitch for Minnesota

Ramirez flied out to left field

[CuseCubFan69]

Just think if Demspter was pitching and the game was 4-2 he would have had a save and a 4-3 win!

[Fred Hornkohl]

CUBS are 6-14 when the opponent hits at least 2 HRs.... 22-31 when they don't

 

 

Go CUBS !!

[C.C.]

Let's just wait for Hill to win a major league game before we start to hype him up..

 

Come on, you've been on this site long enough to know better than to use wins as a meaningful stat.

 

Yeah, the Cubs and the fanbase doesn't seem to be too interested in wins.

 

Hey wins are overrated!

[Fred Hornkohl]

Jones singled to center field

[Fred Hornkohl]

Murton grounded into a FC, 4-6, Jones out at second

[Tim Burr]

Jones singled to center field

 

The script calls for some runs here!

[Fred Hornkohl]

Perez singled to right field, Murton to third

[C.C.]

Neifi with the hit! Alright now he gets to play for the rest of the week!

[Blueheart05]

No shutout

[Fred Hornkohl]

Blanco grounded an IF single to second, Murton scored, Perez to second

[C.C.]

Jones singled to center field

 

The script calls for some runs here!

 

Yep!

[Fred Hornkohl]

TOP OF THE NINTH INNING

 

Eyre in to pitch for Minnesota

Ramirez flied out to left field

Jones singled to center field

Murton grounded into a FC, 4-6, Jones out at second

Perez singled to right field, Murton to third

Blanco grounded an IF single to second, Murton scored, Perez to second

Pierre grounded into a FC, 6 unassisted, Blanco out at second

 

1 runs, 3 hits, 0 errors, 2 men left on base

 

              1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9    R  H E
CUBS          0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1    1 11 3 
Minnesota     0 2 3 0 0 1 1 1 x    8 10 0 

 

W: Radke (6-7)

S: none

L: Marshall (4-6)

 

T: 2:40

A: 35,128

 

Home runs: Hunter (11), Rodriguez (2)

 

pitcher     IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Marshall   4.7  6  5  4  3  3  0  94 
Novoa      1.3  2  1  0  1  2  0  25 
Howry      2.0  1  1  1  0  1  1  15 
Dempster   1.0  1  1  1  0  2  1  14 

Edited June 25, 2006 by Fred Hornkohl

[C.C.]

11 hits and 1 run?

[Tim Burr]

They got 11 hits, they just couldn't catch any breaks!

[muntjack]

We outhit the Twins today! It's kinda like a victory! Yea!

[Fred Hornkohl]

CUBS are 23-9 when they outhit the opponents.... 3-31 when they get outhit.... and 1-5 when the hits are even

 

Go CUBS ??

[Andy]

From a financial standpoint, is this the worst team ever assembled in MLB?

Not quite, I remember LA had some pretty awful teams in the late 90s - early 2000s with a payroll higher than ours.

[Andy]

We outhit the Twins today! It's kinda like a victory! Yea!

It's kinda like pathetic that we outhit them and lost by 7.