6/25 Cubs (Marshall) at Twins (Radke) 1:10 CST WGN TV

[Fred Hornkohl]

BOTTOM OF THE FIFTH INNING

 

Punto walked

Redmond flied out to deep right field, Punto holding first

Cuddyer walked, Punto to second

Morneau struck out (called)

Novoa in to pitch for the CUBS

Hunter struck out swinging

 

0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 2 men left on base

 

              1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9    R H E
CUBS          0 0 0 0 0            0 7 2 
Minnesota     0 2 3 0 0            5 6 0 

 

pitcher     IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Marshall   4.7  6  5  4  3  3  0  94 
Novoa      0.3  0  0  0  0  1  0  03 

[C.C.]

the cubs really need to start limiting marshall's innings. whether that means putting him on strict pitch count or skipping him when they get the chance, it needs to happen. he's never thrown more than 100 innings in a season, and he's on pace to go well over that. and he's really sucked his last three times out.

 

I think todays performence was actually good. The Defense and the Offense let him down in a big time way today...

[abuck1220]

Marmol and Marshall are better than Hill, when in reality I don't think any of those three guys stand out above each other.

 

At least Marmol and Marshal has shown some sort of talent and poise. Hill has no poise, walked the world, and just was flat out awful with a 9 ERA.

 

era of 5 = talent and poise

era of 9 = flat out awful

 

got it.

[Fred Hornkohl]

CUBS now with 15 consecutive scoreless innings and counting........

[Fred Hornkohl]

Nevin grounded out to short, 6-3

[abuck1220]

the cubs really need to start limiting marshall's innings. whether that means putting him on strict pitch count or skipping him when they get the chance, it needs to happen. he's never thrown more than 100 innings in a season, and he's on pace to go well over that. and he's really sucked his last three times out.

 

I think todays performence was actually good. The Defense and the Offense let him down in a big time way today...

 

nine baserunners (though one hit should have been an out) in 4+ innings isn't very good.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Ramirez flied out to right field

[CuseCubFan69]

Ramirez flied out to right field

 

And ran hard out of the box....just kidding.

[C.C.]

Marmol and Marshall are better than Hill, when in reality I don't think any of those three guys stand out above each other.

 

At least Marmol and Marshal has shown some sort of talent and poise. Hill has no poise, walked the world, and just was flat out awful with a 9 ERA.

 

era of 5 = talent and poise

era of 9 = flat out awful

 

got it.

 

Oh c'mon! I'm not going to sit here and bring out all the stats of every start of these pitchers. You watch the games as much as I do, if you can honestly say that Hill has impressed you, then knock yourself out.

[Fred Hornkohl]

TOP OF THE SIXTH INNING

 

Nevin grounded out to short, 6-3

Ramirez flied out to right field

Jones flied out to deep right center field

 

0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 men left on base

 

              1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9    R H E
CUBS          0 0 0 0 0 0          0 7 2 
Minnesota     0 2 3 0 0            5 6 0 

[Outshined_One]

Anyone else enjoy it when Brenly rips on Ramirez, even if it's just with a seemingly innocuous comment?

 

"That probably wouldn't have been a triple with the way Ramirez came out of the box."

[C.C.]

the cubs really need to start limiting marshall's innings. whether that means putting him on strict pitch count or skipping him when they get the chance, it needs to happen. he's never thrown more than 100 innings in a season, and he's on pace to go well over that. and he's really sucked his last three times out.

 

I think todays performence was actually good. The Defense and the Offense let him down in a big time way today...

 

nine baserunners (though one hit should have been an out) in 4+ innings isn't very good.

 

How many base runners have Radke had today? Are you saying he's not impressive also today?

[Fred Hornkohl]

.... and with that 7 pitch inning, the CUBS are seeing 3.58 P/PA today !!

 

Go CUBS !!

[CuseCubFan69]

Anyone else enjoy it when Brenly rips on Ramirez, even if it's just with a seemingly innocuous comment?

 

"That probably wouldn't have been a triple with the way Ramirez came out of the box."

 

This has always been a pet peeve of mine. Players that think they are good and act like prima donnas while they are of average ability.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Sierra blooped a single to shallow left field

[abuck1220]

Marshall deserves better than this. I hope he stays mentally tough and learns from this.

 

As much as people here have been drooling over Marshall, his numbers have not been all that good this season. He's handled himself well, all things considered, but I don't think he's proven much more than any other pitching prospect in this system.

 

I mean, for heaven's sake, his ERA is 4.92 with an away ERA of 6.53! That's just dreadful.

 

I don't think drooling is the word. No one projected him as a number one starter. He made a huge jump from the low Minors and he's held his own.

 

hill made a bigger jump last year, struggled a little, and has been written off by many.

[CuseCubFan69]

Say it ain't so Neifi....say it ain't so!!!

[Outshined_One]

I flip to see if the WC is back on, flip back...then I hear the crowd booing while the camera pans to Murton, Neifi, and Baker in that order, followed by Brenly saying, "You couldn't play this bad if you tried."

 

Wow.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Ford walked

[Blueheart05]

Marmol and Marshall are better than Hill, when in reality I don't think any of those three guys stand out above each other.

 

At least Marmol and Marshal has shown some sort of talent and poise. Hill has no poise, walked the world, and just was flat out awful with a 9 ERA.

 

era of 5 = talent and poise

era of 9 = flat out awful

 

got it.

 

It's not cut and dry but there's no denying that Hill hasn't been able to translate his MiL dominance into anything productive on the ML level. I'm sure he'll get another chance but he'll have to show more "poise" to stay with the team. He doesn't appear to trust his stuff and or is just wild against ML hitters because he's walked too many batters.

 

 

 

WTH? That ball was the OF'ers. :twisted:

[CuseCubFan69]

I flip to see if the WC is back on, flip back...then I hear the crowd booing while the camera pans to Murton, Neifi, and Baker in that order, followed by Brenly saying, "You couldn't play this bad if you tried."

 

Wow.

 

The Primas can't yell at Bob like they did Steve. They deserve the blame just like they did when Steve called them out on it but they won a couple of games when Stone did it so they had a little power. Somebody has to take charge and stop being these clowns buddy.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Bartlett flied out to right center field, runners holding

[abuck1220]

Marmol and Marshall are better than Hill, when in reality I don't think any of those three guys stand out above each other.

 

At least Marmol and Marshal has shown some sort of talent and poise. Hill has no poise, walked the world, and just was flat out awful with a 9 ERA.

 

era of 5 = talent and poise

era of 9 = flat out awful

 

got it.

 

Oh c'mon! I'm not going to sit here and bring out all the stats of every start of these pitchers. You watch the games as much as I do, if you can honestly say that Hill has impressed you, then knock yourself out.

 

hill's 100+ AAA innings have been nothing short of amazing. that's impressed me. i'm not foolish enough to make a judgment based on a few bad big league innings.

[C.C.]

hill made a bigger jump last year, struggled a little, and has been written off by many

 

If Hill was struggling a "Little" he'd still be pitching in the Bigs.

[Outshined_One]

Now Len's getting in on the bashing!

 

He's a Dempster fan.