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A. Jones

L. Milledge

 

Huh and what?

 

Jones is the best centerfielder in baseball right now; at the top of the league offensively and defensively and he'll probably have another five years at the peak.

 

Maybe I just have Lastings Milledge fever, but I think he's a sure fire star and can be had now for real cheap.

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Just to go back to what TT said earlier in the thread about Cabrera possibly being #1; If you are talking contracts, you are totally right. I assumed contracts did not matter.

 

Even without that though, you can make a case. But when given two players both extreemly young and both extreemly talented, i'll take the one with the better work ethic. That's Pujols. Then again, i'd give my both arms, both legs, and a kidney or two to have either one on my team.

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If every player from MLB to Single A was dumped into a pool, and a draft to pick new teams occured, who would be the top 10 picks in your opinion? If you want to do more than that, or all 30 teams, be my guest.

 

I don't think we have a player in the top 10. :cry: Maybe Lee is in the top 10/15.

So...when you pick them, you get them at their current contract status? So picking someone like Z you only get two years before he's FA (and he'll be expensive next year), but Verlander is yours for five more years?

 

I'm not sure about 2-10, but Pujols is #1.

 

I think he is talking pure talent wise TO START a franchise. Not taking in account the contract status.

 

With that said this would bemy top 10:

 

Alex Rodriguez

Miguel Cabrera

Derek Jeter

Manny Ramirez

Albert Pujols :twisted:

Roy Oswalt

Carlos Zambrano

Vladimir Guerrero

Carlos Beltran (yes, a surprise.....but still a productive 5 tool player)

Grady Sizemore

 

 

Eh, I would take Santana over Oswalt, who is 29.

 

I would also take Wright over Jeter, and move ARod back to short.

 

I would not take Manny, as he is 34.

 

Top 10:

 

Pujols

Cabrera

ARod

Santana

Z

Sizmore

Wright

Bay

Peavy

Mauer

 

First: I think Oswalt is more dominate then Santana, even if you factor in the leagues they pitch in. I just think Oswalt has better pure stuff then Santana, hence I put him over Santana.

 

Second: So you wouldn't take Manny because he is 34, yet you would take Albert Pujols because he is 32 (alledgely)? I don't buy your reasoning. Manny, IMO, is slightly better hitter then Pujols (not by alot, but still...) and even at 34, I'd still take Manny over Pujols.

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If every player from MLB to Single A was dumped into a pool, and a draft to pick new teams occured, who would be the top 10 picks in your opinion? If you want to do more than that, or all 30 teams, be my guest.

 

I don't think we have a player in the top 10. :cry: Maybe Lee is in the top 10/15.

So...when you pick them, you get them at their current contract status? So picking someone like Z you only get two years before he's FA (and he'll be expensive next year), but Verlander is yours for five more years?

 

I'm not sure about 2-10, but Pujols is #1.

 

I think he is talking pure talent wise TO START a franchise. Not taking in account the contract status.

 

With that said this would bemy top 10:

 

Alex Rodriguez

Miguel Cabrera

Derek Jeter

Manny Ramirez

Albert Pujols :twisted:

Roy Oswalt

Carlos Zambrano

Vladimir Guerrero

Carlos Beltran (yes, a surprise.....but still a productive 5 tool player)

Grady Sizemore

 

 

Eh, I would take Santana over Oswalt, who is 29.

 

I would also take Wright over Jeter, and move ARod back to short.

 

I would not take Manny, as he is 34.

 

Top 10:

 

Pujols

Cabrera

ARod

Santana

Z

Sizmore

Wright

Bay

Peavy

Mauer

 

First: I think Oswalt is more dominate then Santana, even if you factor in the leagues they pitch in. I just think Oswalt has better pure stuff then Santana, hence I put him over Santana.

 

Second: So you wouldn't take Manny because he is 34, yet you would take Albert Pujols because he is 32 (alledgely)? I don't buy your reasoning. Manny, IMO, is slightly better hitter then Pujols (not by alot, but still...) and even at 34, I'd still take Manny over Pujols.

 

Players from the DR have always had their age questioned. I've heard it less in the last couple of years, but in the past I've had conversations and read articles on all kinds of foreign born players.

 

You can only assume that Pujols is 26 as that is what MLB stats his age as.

 

There's also alot of similarities between Manny and Pujols. To me, Pujols is very similar to Manny but obviously younger. Pujols has at least 10 more productive years if he stays healthy and I believe that he could be one of the greatest of all-time when it's all said and done. I'd pick Pujols over Manny...............EVERY TIME! No question in my mind.

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First: I think Oswalt is more dominate then Santana, even if you factor in the leagues they pitch in. I just think Oswalt has better pure stuff then Santana, hence I put him over Santana.

 

Second: So you wouldn't take Manny because he is 34, yet you would take Albert Pujols because he is 32 (alledgely)? I don't buy your reasoning. Manny, IMO, is slightly better hitter then Pujols (not by alot, but still...) and even at 34, I'd still take Manny over Pujols.

 

Santana has a better WHIP, and much better K/9 and H/9. Oswalt has slightly better BB/9 and HR/9 numbers. Consider that Santana pitches in the AL, is left-handed and over a year younger, I'll take Santana over Oswalt every time.

 

Considering the age difference, I definitely take Pujols over Manny.

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