Suspensions handed out: Barrett suspended 10 games

[Tracer Bullet]

And I have no idea who Rudy Tomjanovich is.

 

You're not serious, are you? Even if you don't know the event that he's talking about (punch in the face ending Rudy's NBA career), you don't remember him as an NBA coach? Won 2 titles with Houston in the mid-90s, I think (while Jordan was playing AA).

[FergieJ31]

i 've got 2 words for you before you think he got harsh punishment

rudy tomjanovich. and that happened in the middle of a fight/melee..

physically attacking someone like that is a dangerous thing..nothing happened but next time?

look outside of the game...

spit in someones face, you don't even get a ticket, just an argument

attack someone like barrett did and you go to jail.

Players get "physically attacked" frequently in baseball. When a player charges the mound after getting drilled, does he get suspended for 10 games? Ever? No, he doesn't and it's crap that Barrett got 10 games.

 

And I have no idea who Rudy Tomjanovich is.

 

Kermit Washington got about 25-26 games in the late 70's for breaking Rudy T's jaw in an NBA game - a blatant sucker punch that resulted in a serious injury. That was 30 years ago, diff't league, plus AJP wasn't injured, so not really comparable, but point taken. I do think 10 games is excessive though -- 5-7 would have been about right.

[Mizzou]

And I have no idea who Rudy Tomjanovich is.

 

You're not serious, are you? Even if you don't know the event that he's talking about (punch in the face ending Rudy's NBA career), you don't remember him as an NBA coach? Won 2 titles with Houston in the mid-90s, I think (while Jordan was playing AA).

Ah, okay. Now I know who you're talking about. I don't really follow the NBA.

[E.J.]

Just showed Barrett talking to the media on the Lead Off man. He said the appeal has already been filed. Should take some games off that 10-game suspension.

[SoonerCubFan]

10 games is right on. as much as i liked it. barrett was way out of line. aj was a legal play. barrett's play was not part of the game...like charging the mound or throwing at someone.

 

To make it simple, he should get the standard suspension for charging the mound, where punches/helmets are always thrown - no more, no less. I suspect that's pretty much where it will end up.

[NorthsideAvenger]

sounds pretty fair.

Fair!!?? It's bull. Rodgers got 20 for attacking 2 cameramen and it was reduced to 13 on appeal. 13 for a SP is like 2-3 starts. 10 for a catcher is like 7-8-9 games!!!

 

Yeah, fair. He got 10, he can probably get it reduced to about 8. MB was completely in the wrong here. It was fun to watch, but he was dead wrong. No other Cubs got suspended or fined (although Hendry and Baker should have both been fined for their negligent treatment of one of their own players who actually stuck up for his teammate), Anderson got a nice chunk of time, and Cora got hit as well.

 

The ONLY reason why MB was wrong, was because there were children in the stadium. Otherwise...you are NEVER wrong when you slug a thug like AJP.

[Andy]

Springer got 4 for deliberately attacking Bonds with a projectile at 90+ mph, and Barrett got 10 for slugging AJP in the jaw and not even going full bore when he did it.

[NorthsideAvenger]

"I don't [care] what Michael Barrett's suspension should be. He's not our player," Williams said. "Why should Michael Barrett get a chance to beat us [sunday], or the next time we play? With our luck, he'll play against us and serve his suspension when they play the Tigers.

 

Does anybody over in the White Sox ever think about what they say, before the say it? Kenny Williams just proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is an idiot. Sure, Kenny...MLB could have suspended MB the day after the INCIDENT, but MB would have still appeal the decision, which means...Barrett would have still play the game, your friggin, mental midget. Apparently, Williams believes in the "he's guilty because he is a Cub, so he shouldn't get an appeal" theory.

 

Anybody else think....that the White Sox won the WS DESPITE Kenny Williams?

[Backtobanks]

Say what you will about Barrett (he deserves 10 games, he doesn't deserve 10 games, etc.), the White Sox are in disbelief that anybody on their team should be punished. Were the Cubs brawling with themselves? According to them, AJ is innocent and Anderson & Cora didn't do anything. What a crock!!!!!

[K-Town]

"I don't [care] what Michael Barrett's suspension should be. He's not our player," Williams said. "Why should Michael Barrett get a chance to beat us [sunday], or the next time we play? With our luck, he'll play against us and serve his suspension when they play the Tigers.

 

Does anybody over in the White Sox ever think about what they say, before the say it? Kenny Williams just proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is an idiot. Sure, Kenny...MLB could have suspended MB the day after the INCIDENT, but MB would have still appeal the decision, which means...Barrett would have still play the game, your friggin, mental midget. Apparently, Williams believes in the "he's guilty because he is a Cub, so he shouldn't get an appeal" theory.

 

Anybody else think....that the White Sox won the WS DESPITE Kenny Williams?

 

I don't see Williams saying that Barrett shouldn't get an appeal. Am I missing something? I think he's just saying that it's unfortunate that Barrett attacked one of his players, and still gets an opportunity to beat them the next time that they play.

[K-Town]

Say what you will about Barrett (he deserves 10 games, he doesn't deserve 10 games, etc.), the White Sox are in disbelief that anybody on their team should be punished. Were the Cubs brawling with themselves? According to them, AJ is innocent and Anderson & Cora didn't do anything. What a crock!!!!!

 

Actually, AJ was innocent, wasn't he?

[cubfan1955]

I didn't realize during the suspension the Cubs (and Sox) have to play with their roster at 24 players. If the Cubs bring up Soto they have to send someone down during the suspension, it's not just a Barrett for Soto swap. For a team as bad as this, playing a man short seems really unfair. Oh well, it seems we've been about 8 men short the whole year. Edited May 27, 2006 by cubfan1955

[K-Town]

10 games is right on. as much as i liked it. barrett was way out of line. aj was a legal play. barrett's play was not part of the game...like charging the mound or throwing at someone.

 

To make it simple, he should get the standard suspension for charging the mound, where punches/helmets are always thrown - no more, no less. I suspect that's pretty much where it will end up.

 

When you charge a mound, at least the guy that you're attacking has an opportunity to defend himself. That's alot different than sucker-punching someone when they're comletely unprepared for an attack.

[cubfan1955]

10 games is right on. as much as i liked it. barrett was way out of line. aj was a legal play. barrett's play was not part of the game...like charging the mound or throwing at someone.

 

To make it simple, he should get the standard suspension for charging the mound, where punches/helmets are always thrown - no more, no less. I suspect that's pretty much where it will end up.

 

When you charge a mound, at least the guy that you're attacking has an opportunity to defend himself. That's alot different than sucker-punching someone when they're comletely unprepared for an attack.

I don't agree with what Barrett did but it wasn't a sucker punch. They were face to face and if AJ couldn't see it coming then he's an idiot. Well, he is anyway but that is not the point. If Barrett had snuck up behind AJ and punched him, that would have been a sucker punch.

[K-Town]

10 games is right on. as much as i liked it. barrett was way out of line. aj was a legal play. barrett's play was not part of the game...like charging the mound or throwing at someone.

 

To make it simple, he should get the standard suspension for charging the mound, where punches/helmets are always thrown - no more, no less. I suspect that's pretty much where it will end up.

 

When you charge a mound, at least the guy that you're attacking has an opportunity to defend himself. That's alot different than sucker-punching someone when they're comletely unprepared for an attack.

I don't agree with what Barrett did but it wasn't a sucker punch. They were face to face and if AJ couldn't see it coming then he's an idiot. Well, he is anyway but that is not the point. If Barrett had snuck up behind AJ and punched him, that would have been a sucker punch.

 

 

There's NO WAY that AJ could have expected what was coming, considering he hadnt' really done anything wrong. When you walk up to someone and clearly let them know that you're ready to fight, then it's not a sucker-punch. When you simply walk up to someone and punch them when they clearly don't expect it, then I consider it a sucker-punch, because they clearly have no defense against it. There was no way that AJ could have gotten out of the way of that punch, under the circumstances. To me, it's a sucker-punch.

[cubfan1955]

10 games is right on. as much as i liked it. barrett was way out of line. aj was a legal play. barrett's play was not part of the game...like charging the mound or throwing at someone.

 

To make it simple, he should get the standard suspension for charging the mound, where punches/helmets are always thrown - no more, no less. I suspect that's pretty much where it will end up.

 

When you charge a mound, at least the guy that you're attacking has an opportunity to defend himself. That's alot different than sucker-punching someone when they're comletely unprepared for an attack.

I don't agree with what Barrett did but it wasn't a sucker punch. They were face to face and if AJ couldn't see it coming then he's an idiot. Well, he is anyway but that is not the point. If Barrett had snuck up behind AJ and punched him, that would have been a sucker punch.

 

 

There's NO WAY that AJ could have expected what was coming, considering he hadnt' really done anything wrong. When you walk up to someone and clearly let them know that you're ready to fight, then it's not a sucker-punch. When you simply walk up to someone and punch them when they clearly don't expect it, then I consider it a sucker-punch, because they clearly have no defense against it. There was no way that AJ could have gotten out of the way of that punch, under the circumstances. To me, it's a sucker-punch.

 

Well if someone had their face about 6 inches from mine and was mad as hell I think I'd prepare myself for the very real possibility that the other person might try to clock me. But that's just me.

[Chocolate Milk]

Anyone who thinks that was a sucker-punch, has never seen a sucker-punch before.

[CubsBullsBears]

"I don't [care] what Michael Barrett's suspension should be. He's not our player," Williams said. "Why should Michael Barrett get a chance to beat us [sunday], or the next time we play? With our luck, he'll play against us and serve his suspension when they play the Tigers.

 

Does anybody over in the White Sox ever think about what they say, before the say it? Kenny Williams just proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is an idiot. Sure, Kenny...MLB could have suspended MB the day after the INCIDENT, but MB would have still appeal the decision, which means...Barrett would have still play the game, your friggin, mental midget. Apparently, Williams believes in the "he's guilty because he is a Cub, so he shouldn't get an appeal" theory.

 

Anybody else think....that the White Sox won the WS DESPITE Kenny Williams?

He's just pissed b/c it's going to hurt his team. Barrett beats them, and then when he is suspended, they play the Tigers who beat the Cubs. I thought he'd be happy. Sox fans root for AL teams over the Cubs.

[treebird]

hooray k-town finally defends someone besides the cardinals

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Anyone who thinks that was a sucker-punch, has never seen a sucker-punch before.

 

Seriously, I can't believe how widespread that term has gotten. And also, he hit him with his forearm, if he wanted to drill him he would've thrown an actual punch.

[CubsBullsBears]

If AJ did this, he'd get 20, and MLB would call for his head. There was a SI poll, and 470 MLB players were asked who they'd want to see beaned the most. AJ was # 1.

[Backtobanks]

Say what you will about Barrett (he deserves 10 games, he doesn't deserve 10 games, etc.), the White Sox are in disbelief that anybody on their team should be punished. Were the Cubs brawling with themselves? According to them, AJ is innocent and Anderson & Cora didn't do anything. What a crock!!!!!

 

Actually, AJ was innocent, wasn't he?

 

Well, the same people who looked at the tape and gave Barrett his suspension are the ones who decided that AJ did something to cause a fine. The league office has the only opinion that counts and they fined AJ. My point is that the Sox act like they had no part in the brawl, they were just innocent bystanders.

[Chocolate Milk]

Anyone who thinks that was a sucker-punch, has never seen a sucker-punch before.

 

Seriously, I can't believe how widespread that term has gotten.

 

No kidding. I guess according to some you have to say "PUNCH INCOMING IN 4 SECONDS." for it not to be a sucker punch. I guess the first punch thrown in every fight is a sucker punch, according to some..

 

I'm not sure how much more clear cut it can get. There was a physical altercation, Barrett grabbed AJP and pulled him close, said "I didn't have the ball, !@$@," looked him in the eye and slugged him. How that is a sucker punch, is beyond me. I guess if I was a Cardinals troll, it would make more sense.

[Andy]

"I don't [care] what Michael Barrett's suspension should be. He's not our player," Williams said. "Why should Michael Barrett get a chance to beat us [sunday], or the next time we play? With our luck, he'll play against us and serve his suspension when they play the Tigers.

 

Does anybody over in the White Sox ever think about what they say, before the say it? Kenny Williams just proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is an idiot. Sure, Kenny...MLB could have suspended MB the day after the INCIDENT, but MB would have still appeal the decision, which means...Barrett would have still play the game, your friggin, mental midget. Apparently, Williams believes in the "he's guilty because he is a Cub, so he shouldn't get an appeal" theory.

 

Anybody else think....that the White Sox won the WS DESPITE Kenny Williams?

Yes, they did, but that had more to do with the bad (or at least neutral) moves that he made than it did with his being a friggin moron, which he is.

 

[major rant]Oh and what's this "with our luck" crap? Kenny, you just traded for a guy who hit 7 homers last year and for all we know could've been one of those token post-steroid guys, and now he's going to hit 60. Jose Contreras, at the age of 65, is having one of the greatest runs of pitching in history. Your bullpen pitchers are all having their 2nd straight career years. AJ Pierzynski is hitting 50 points above his career average. Your closer, a former bar-fight denizen, is now one of the best in the game. Everyone you trade away either hits under .200, has an ERA above 9, or runs headlong into iron fences anymore. Carlos Lee is the only recently removed former White Sox that is having any kind of success at the big league level that I can think of. I have personally never seen a home run hitter get as many gopher balls to hit as Paul Konerko does (this was the case before Thome got there). Everyone you play seems to forget how to execute, as in the last two years I have seen more blown scoring chances against your team than I have even seen out of the Cubs, and that is saying something, my friend. You want "with our luck"? Watch the Cubs for a while.[/major rant]

 

Now, if Kenny had made a snide remark about the fact that the Cubs have no chance of beating the Tigers anyway, thereby screwing up the Sox' chances, this would have been somewhat humorous.

[Rusch33]

MLB has always been all over the map with suspensions.

 

Robert Alomar only got 5 games for spitting into a face of an umpire.

 

Rocker got a month off because of his comments in Sports Illustrated. He didn't break any rules and got a 25 game suspension.

 

Now, Barrett got 10 games for a punch to the face - a little excessive, I think.

 

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Still can't see how Alomar only got 5 games for spitting into a face of an umpire a long time ago.