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There's no accountability anywhere in the organization. Baker is a rotten human being.
Whoa, come on now. A bad manager, yes. A rotten human being, no.

 

He's supposed to be a leader of men, yet his actions show him to be in reality a spineless, doubletalking twit.

 

Dusty is pathetic.

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Interesting...Dusty gets on Wood for his pitch selection:

 

"He threw too many fat strikes,'' Baker said. "His fastball was supposed to be on the outside part and was coming back over the plate. The one questionable pitch would be the fastball to the eighth hitter with the pitcher on deck. I'm sure he's shaking his head about that one.''

 

but not a negative thing to say about Neifi's boneheaded play:

 

"If he gets that ball down anywhere but to the pitcher, he beats it out and we have [John] Mabry up next. That's what he was thinking. It's not a bad play, especially because the third baseman was way deep.
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Interesting...Dusty gets on Wood for his pitch selection:

 

"He threw too many fat strikes,'' Baker said. "His fastball was supposed to be on the outside part and was coming back over the plate. The one questionable pitch would be the fastball to the eighth hitter with the pitcher on deck. I'm sure he's shaking his head about that one.''

 

but not a negative thing to say about Neifi's boneheaded play:

 

"If he gets that ball down anywhere but to the pitcher, he beats it out and we have [John] Mabry up next. That's what he was thinking. It's not a bad play, especially because the third baseman was way deep.

 

That is really unbelievable...I really hope it is something like when you defend your players in public and then rant at them in private - but I am not sure that is even possible to imagine.

 

What good excuses could Baker make from this????

 

1. The boos of the fans blew the ball close to the pitcher

 

2. If only our ground crew would not have kept the infield grass so long, it would have rolled past the pitcher

 

3. It is just hard when D-Lee is still injured

 

4. At least he was trying

 

fill in some more...

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There's no accountability anywhere in the organization. Baker is a rotten human being.
Whoa, come on now. A bad manager, yes. A rotten human being, no.

 

He's supposed to be a leader of men, yet his actions show him to be in reality a spineless, doubletalking twit.

 

Dusty is pathetic.

He's pathetic as a manager, not as a person. That was my (and others') point.
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if the cubs are gonna lose it's going to be while bunting. it's like how a pitcher doesn't want to get beat on his second best pitch. bunting is the cubs' bread and butter, so if they're going down, they're going down bunting. good for them.

 

Not only is bunting a piss-poor strategy, the Cubs are really BAD AT IT.

 

Its really incredible how they just keep banging their head against a brick wall, hoping the next time they throw their head forward the wall will turn into Jello.

 

What's the old saying?

 

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result each time."

 

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Here's an excerpt from today's Jim Baker article at Baseball Prospectus:

 

"...even though I was watching the game myself, I didn't believe I had seen what I had seen. There is something very jarring about a guy bunting hard back to the pitcher to end a game with the tying runs on base. As hard as we try to defend his decision to lay one down--and manager Dusty Baker did just that--it just seems incongruous when the means to tie the game are in place. I will also admit that had a player with a reputation for being clever done it, I might not have been so taken aback."

 

Poor Neifi. He doesn't even have a reputation for being clever.

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Can anyone confirm that the 3rd baseman was in fact playing deep? I mean on the outfield grass deep because that's the only way you could possibly justify the bunt. (assuming you're capable of dropping the ball down the line.

 

The real problem wasn't that Neifi bunted--it's the fact that you have a guy on your team who has so little confidence in his hitting (he used up his weekly hit quota earlier in the game) that he felt that bunting was his only shot at keeping the inning alive.

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Can anyone confirm that the 3rd baseman was in fact playing deep? I mean on the outfield grass deep because that's the only way you could possibly justify the bunt. (assuming you're capable of dropping the ball down the line.

 

Yes, the entire left side of the infield (plus the left fielder) were in the bathroom at the time

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Here's an excerpt from today's Jim Baker article at Baseball Prospectus:

 

"...even though I was watching the game myself, I didn't believe I had seen what I had seen. There is something very jarring about a guy bunting hard back to the pitcher to end a game with the tying runs on base. As hard as we try to defend his decision to lay one down--and manager Dusty Baker did just that--it just seems incongruous when the means to tie the game are in place. I will also admit that had a player with a reputation for being clever done it, I might not have been so taken aback."

 

This is what is so mind-boggling...that so MANY outside of the Cubs organization can see what incredible problems there are, or what stupid bonehead plays are being made, yet the organization itself has their collective heads so far into the sand that they cannot see it??? Geez, if the whole world sees that you have a tail, you have a tail, dang it! Or is it just a complete and utter refusal to admit that there is an organizational failure?? :evil:

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He's pathetic as a manager, not as a person. That was my (and others') point.

 

The man you are at work is often the man you are at home. How anyone stands to live with him is a mystery.

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There's no accountability anywhere in the organization. Baker is a rotten human being.
Whoa, come on now. A bad manager, yes. A rotten human being, no.

 

He's supposed to be a leader of men, yet his actions show him to be in reality a spineless, doubletalking twit.

 

Dusty is pathetic.

He's pathetic as a manager, not as a person. That was my (and others') point.

 

I really don't understand it when you do this. I've read you post like this multiple times. JR is saying that Baker is a pathetic person (opinion) you are saying that he isn't (also opinion), yet for some reason, you feel inclined to pass yours off as fact while dismissing someone else's. What makes your opinion the truth in this instance?

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Topic says Neifi

Recent posts discuss Dusty (again)

Thread freefalling towards a lock

 

Yeah, I don't see it.

 

You aren't allowed to talk about Dusty in a thread that doesn't have Dusty in the title? Dusty and Neifi are tied at the hip. It's hard to discuss either one without bringing up the other.

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Topic says Neifi

Recent posts discuss Dusty (again)

Thread freefalling towards a lock

 

Yeah, I don't see it.

 

You aren't allowed to talk about Dusty in a thread that doesn't have Dusty in the title? Dusty and Neifi are tied at the hip. It's hard to discuss either one without bringing up the other.

 

I meant that it has veered entirely away from Neifi and into JR's opinions of Dusty (and other people's opinions about the opinions)

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Bruce's take.

 

If any one play summed up the Cubs’ futility of late — they’re 4-13 in May and 17-23 overall — it came in the bottom of the ninth inning.

 

With runners on first and third and two outs, Neifi Perez laid down a bunt, trying for a hit. Pitcher Chad Cordero fielded the hard bunt and easily threw out Perez at first, ending the game and stunning the remaining fans who were part of a crowd of 40,517.

 

“Just try to do the best for the team,” Perez said by way of explanation. “I’ve been struggling swinging the bat right now.

 

“The third baseman was way back. He didn’t have a chance to throw me out. But I didn’t get the bunt. I didn’t get the job done. You know what? If I had the chance to do it again, I might do it again, because that’s my game.”

 

Perez was in the lineup at third base in place of the injured Aramis Ramirez. The switch hitter went into the game batting .197 with no homers, 6 RBI and a low slugging percentage of .258. Nevertheless, manager Dusty Baker put Perez into the sixth spot, behind left-handed hitting Jacque Jones and ahead of left-handed hitting John Mabry.

 

“I didn’t want to have all those lefties back to back because they have two pretty good lefties in the bullpen back there,” Baker said.

 

Baker refused to call Perez’s play a bad one.

 

“That’s not a bad play, especially with the third baseman — he was way deep,” Baker said. “If he gets that ball anywhere close to the line, he beats that out, we got a run and we’ve got runners on first and second. It didn’t work.”

 

Neifi's quote is great "I've been struggling with the bat right now." By "right now" he apparently means "for the last 5 years."

Absolutely unreal. Dusty's been topping himself lately but he's going to find it difficult to go much stupider than this instance.

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My favorite part was "That's my game" ... and I couldn't help but agree with him... he just makes outs... that's what he does... you can count on it 8 out of 10 times...
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No comments about how with the Cubs' rallying Neifi "saved" the game for the Nationals?

 

We should be inspired that Team Savior is generous enough to save other teams as well.

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i have no problem with neifi...like you said he is what he is. heck, he already had a hit in this game, what are the odds he actually gets another swinging hit? not too mention if he does get a hit, there is no way he hits it far enough to score the tying run. so we still need mabry to get a hit.

my problems are as follows:

#1 we are paying him 2.5 mil

#2 dusty plays him far too much since lee went down

#3 why was he still in this game at this time

#4 when he was still in the game...someone lese had to be a better bat off the bench. we needed an extra base hit...the chances of neifi-mabry getting hits back to back...pretty nil

#5 we are still paying him 2.5 mil! add that to our offer to furcal and...he is with us! not neifi, pierre and jones...we might still suck but we would suck with some upside. we would certainly be better when dlee came back

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Neifi would have played with us for the league minimum... even then he'd still not get a better offer anywhere...

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