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Bellhorn had a very good year for us in '02. He stunk so bad we practically gave him away in '03. He came back and had a resurgence for the Red Sox in '04, but returned to sucking in '05. So far in '06, he's posting an .883 OBP.

 

Is he starting to remind anyone else of Farnsy, with his good year-bad year-good year thing he has going?

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You mean OPS. Yeah, he has been oddly inconsistent. The Cubs should trade for him though. I think he would help the offense; he could start at second.
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You mean OPS. Yeah, he has been oddly inconsistent. The Cubs should trade for him though. I think he would help the offense; he could start at second.

 

Hairston for Horn.

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You mean OPS. Yeah, he has been oddly inconsistent. The Cubs should trade for him though. I think he would help the offense; he could start at second.

 

Hairston for Horn.

 

That's what I had in mind, actually. I could see the Pads doing that, especially since Hairston could help out in the outfield.

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Dude, why would we trade for Bellhorn man? He takes too many pitches. It's almost like he likes to clog the bases.
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Dude, why would we trade for Bellhorn man? He takes too many pitches. It's almost like he likes to clog the bases.

 

Yah, i hate guys who constantly get on base... the cubs dont need that, and a switch hitter, yuk. For that matter, We also do not need a hitter who can drive in runs either.

 

BTW The padres would be boarderline mentally challenged to trade belhorn for hariston, especially with klesko hurt.

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Bellhorn had a very good year for us in '02. He stunk so bad we practically gave him away in '03. He came back and had a resurgence for the Red Sox in '04, but returned to sucking in '05. So far in '06, he's posting an .883 OBP.

 

Is he starting to remind anyone else of Farnsy, with his good year-bad year-good year thing he has going?

Steve Trachsel had the same pattern during his years with the Cubs. He was good in even-numbered years and stund during odd-numbered years.
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I have a different philosophy. If teams used Bellhorn for his strengths, I think he'd be more consistent. When Bellhorn was truly at his best in Chicago, he was providing a .378 OBP out of the lead off spot. In 2003, Dusty tried to turn him into an RBI guy and batted him 7th. When that didn't work, he traded him. Colorado didn't use him as a top of the order guy, and he struggled there as well. In Boston, Mueller got hurt, so they stuck Bellhorn in the 2 spot, where he put up an amazing OBP and helped the Red Sox win a World Series. The next year, Boston had other options to put in the top spots, and once Bellhorn was relegated to bottom of the order status, he struggled driving in runs.

 

San Diego isn't using him properly now, either. It's a small sample size, but his numbers will probably continue to decline. He's really an all or nothing type player in every sense. He can walk really good and he can strike out really good. But, his OBP when asked to bat in the top spots are worthy of note.

 

He's a perfect fit to hit #2 in just about any teams line up. Anywhere else? Not so much.

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Speaking of OBP; how about Youkilis this year for Boston ? The guy is as slow as Hector Villanueva. Crisp goes down for 2 months and all Youk does is step in and produce a .438 OBP from the leadoff spot.

 

Speed means little anymore in the game of baseball other than close and late situations. You can't steal 1st. The Cubs organization still has no concept of this.

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He's a perfect fit to hit #2 in just about any teams line up. Anywhere else? Not so much.

 

Bingo. While I'd love to see a Hairston for Bellhorn deal, it would rest on the assumption that Dusty would use him correctly. I don't see that happening though.

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