2007 Draft Class

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I want Wieters at #3 and LaPorta in the supplemental.

 

That'd make me happy. :D

 

We'd have a ton of organizational power at 1B with Dopirak, Fox, LaPorta, and Wieters possibly all playing there.

 

With how many a lock to make it?

[texascub]

i dont know why we'd do that. if we spend the first pick on wieters i'd like to get an arm with the second pick, and there will be plenty of high upside ones left.

 

Do you think that this would be possible?

 

1st- Wieters

Supp- Arrieta

2nd- to Washing for Soriano

3rd- Kellen Kulbacki

[Guest]

i dont know why we'd do that. if we spend the first pick on wieters i'd like to get an arm with the second pick, and there will be plenty of high upside ones left.

Because you take the best talent available and don't worry about position.

 

I like LaPorta a lot, just not enough to take him at #3.

[CoolHandLuke]

We want Weiters

 

hope you don't mind but i'm jumping in the coalition :D

 

me too.

[Guest]

And what I'm really hoping for is that Price is still available at #3 and we get Price & LaPorta. I just don't think that's going to be possible.

[Mephistopheles]

Scouting Report

Andrew Brackman, rhp, North Carolina State

 

Andrew Brackman entered the spring as the highest-rated righthander in college baseball on most draft boards. Because he's at listed 6-foot-10, 245 pounds, and throws a fastball in the upper 90s (though more regularly in the low 90s lately), he's not going to fall far down most draft boards. His 6-3, 3.67 overall record, including a pedestrian 53-24 walk-strikeout ratio, belies his power stuff, which includes a hard spike curveball. But because the former basketball player is in his first full season--his 61 innings this spring is close to his career total of 71--he's harder than most players to evaluate. One veteran scout with an American League organization sized up Brackman at the halfway point of his season, emphasizing that both the pitcher and the evaluation of the pitcher are both far from complete.

 

"It will come down to the last month on him. His stuff has not dropped off, but also he still has not struck out a lot of guys. There's still so much development to be done with him. He needs to tweak his breaking ball, but it will be better, it has been better. His athleticism is above-average, and that's an asset, and he's throwing hard, but we all still will be evaluating him late. I still feel some team will take him high, first five picks or first 10 picks. But to me, a major league contract wouldn't be best for a guy, starting his clock, when he needs a lot of development still. I can see Scott (Boras, the agent who advises Brackman) starting with (Jeff) Samardzija money ($10 million), because there are similarities with the stuff, and the bonus could be spread out over five years with the two-sport rule."

 

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/college/features/263749.html

 

i dont know why we'd do that. if we spend the first pick on wieters i'd like to get an arm with the second pick, and there will be plenty of high upside ones left.

Because you take the best talent available and don't worry about position.

 

I like LaPorta a lot, just not enough to take him at #3.

 

At some point you have to worry about position. LaPorta's an advanced senior with good power, but he's one dimensional. If Wieters winds up at 1B you're screwed not to mention the Cubs have Derrek Lee there for awhile. Normally you dont worry about positions because they can change, but there's a reason that very few college firstbasemen are drafted high or rated high. If he was athletic enough to move to LF it's another story. LaPorta is also a Boras guy, for what it's worth and despite being a senior Boras will still try to leverage him.

 

I dont think he's all that good of a prospect. Sure he has as much raw power as anyone, but that's about all he has going for him. There's definitely going to be a high school pitcher or position player with more upside than him left.

[davearm]

At some point you have to worry about position. LaPorta's an advanced senior with good power, but he's one dimensional. If Wieters winds up at 1B you're screwed not to mention the Cubs have Derrek Lee there for awhile. Normally you dont worry about positions because they can change, but there's a reason that very few college firstbasemen are drafted high or rated high. If he was athletic enough to move to LF it's another story. LaPorta is also a Boras guy, for what it's worth and despite being a senior Boras will still try to leverage him.

 

I dont think he's all that good of a prospect. Sure he has as much raw power as anyone, but that's about all he has going for him. There's definitely going to be a high school pitcher or position player with more upside than him left.

And the point at which you have to worry about position comes when you've got more than one guy ready to play a given position at the ML level.

 

And even then, you've got options -- make a trade to fill another need, move a guy to another position, stash the young guy in AAA, etc.

 

On draft day, though, you're a long way away from crossing that bridge, so you take the BPA.

[Mephistopheles]

if you drafting with the intent on trading, there's something wrong with your organizational philosophy.

[jersey cubs fan]

if you drafting with the intent on trading, there's something wrong with your organizational philosophy.

 

You don't draft with the intent of trading. You draft knowing that you have the option of trading down the line if there truly is a positional logjam.

 

Things change.

[Mephistopheles]

so you draft the player who is one dimensional who has to hit for power to make it?

[Mephistopheles]

midseason draft update is up on ba.

 

michael burgess has fallen down to number 30 overall (!). plate d issues. told ya guys...

 

ill give you the top five

 

1 price

2 wieters

3 vitters

4 harvey

5 porcello

(6 brackman)

 

laporta is at 12.

[RichHillIsABeast]

Brackman's stock sure has fallen.

[Mephistopheles]

yeah all the way down to sixth. we should all be so terrible. with a good finish it can jump back in a hurry.

[RammyFanny]

Price vs. Tenn

 

8 IP, 1 ER, 5 hits, 14 K's, 0 BB

 

Wieters 2/3 today with a single, double, SO, and BB in a low scoring game, so i'm assuming he was up against good pitching. His stats are really getting up there again.

[Guest]

Price vs. Tenn

 

8 IP, 1 ER, 5 hits, 14 K's, 0 BB

That's a....decent performance.

[texascub]

Nice outing, but any clue what his pitch count was?

[TruffleShuffle]

Nice outing, but any clue what his pitch count was?

 

226

 

i'd probably select price ahead of wieters, though it'd be a close call. Doesn't matter, because both of them are not falling to #3. I'm just hoping that one of them does.

[texascub]

Kyle Russell of Texas just hit his 22nd homer of the season against Nebraska. Where will he go in the draft?

[Mephistopheles]

He's a draft eligible sophomore. He's probably similar to say Micah Owings a few years back. Scouts are divided with his potential with the wooden bat, but if he was signable, first or supplemental easy.

 

 

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[Slugger_16]

The GT-UGA game will be on Sports South for those of you in the region that are interested in seeing Wieters play. The game is Tuesday at 7 PM from Turner Field.

[texascub]

Adrian Alaniz had a nice game as well for Texas. He went 7 2/3IP, 7 hits, 4 ER, 10/3 K/BB on 126 pitches.

[davearm]

if you drafting with the intent on trading, there's something wrong with your organizational philosophy.

Trading is not the intent, it's just one of several options.

 

If you pass on the BPA to draft a less talented guy because he might be a better fit at the major league level, then you've got an even larger problem with your organizational philosophy.

[don_kessinger_was_good]

Sorry if I missed it on one of the earlier pages, but is Wieters doing any pitching again this spring? And if so, how is he doing?

[texascub]

Sorry if I missed it on one of the earlier pages, but is Wieters doing any pitching again this spring? And if so, how is he doing?

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Yes he has, and he has struggled quite a bit as well. He has gone 1-3 in 10 appearances (11.3IP) with a 7.15ERA. He's given up 11 hits (3HR), 9ER, and has a 15/5 K/BB.

[The Hawk]

Jim Callis has the Cubs taking Josh Vitters now. It's in this week's Ask BA and he talked about it in the chat Wed.