4/13 Cubs (Zambrano) v.s. Reds (Milton) 1:20 WGNTV and Radio

[Derwood]

This is NOT the lineup that will make a great comeback sorry to say

[RyCubsFan]

Man Zambrano has really sucked this year *sigh* What the heck is wrong with him?

 

 

Again, his last start against the Cards was VERY good. Before today, one bad start, one very good start.

 

Yes so 2/3 of his games have sucked. Dissapointing for sure

 

Sample size. Giving stats like "2/3 of his games have sucked" is very misleading, since this is only his 3rd start of the season.

 

Plus, if he goes 6 or 7 today w/out giving up another run, I wouldnt say this is a terrible start either.

[Blueheart05]

Elite pitchers don't melt down when a miscommunication happens, hit the next batter and then go 3-0 from over throwing and serve up a gopher ball. He absolutely has to learn to check himself.

 

I have to agree.

[gflore34]

If Zambrano can hold them down from this point on, it'll be OK, the Cubs are to going get to this clown (Milton)... Edited April 13, 2006 by gflore34

[jjgman21]

Milton

 

1st inning - 26 pitches

next two innings - 23 pitches.

 

so much for getting into the bullpen.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Hatteberg walked

[Andy]

Ok, so he's a pretty good hitter, but not a major HR threat.

He's good enough.

 

Said he hit over 20 but that was the OTHER MIFs in Ohio.

Edited April 13, 2006 by Andy

[badger1679666666]

I got flammed on the board a few weeks back for saying that while Z is clearly an ace pitcher, he isn't one of the elite (ie top 10) pitchers in the game. This inning really proves my point unfortunately. He sandwiches a string of Ks around a walk, HBP and HR to a weak hitter.

 

You do know that Lopez is probably the 2nd or 3rd best hitting SS in the NL right?

 

Ok, so he's a pretty good hitter, but not a major HR threat.

 

23 HR and 86 RBI with a .486 SLG% last year in his first full year starting.

 

He'll hit close to 30 HR this year. He's a HR threat and he's certainly a HR threat with the wind blowing out.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

And yet another game thread breaks turns into an argument! :shock:

 

My good God. Zambrano sucked on opening day, threw a great game against the Cards, and has sucked so far today. He's a great pitcher, but his season isn't starting off so hot. Can we move along now?

[cubbyvirus00]

I'm sorry, but winning over 15 games ONCE in a season doesen't qualify Zambrano as "elite" or "amazing."

 

I'm not sold on him completely, as being our number 1 guy.

[C.C.]

Elite pitchers don't melt down when a miscommunication happens, hit the next batter and then go 3-0 from over throwing and serve up a gopher ball. He absolutely has to learn to check himself.

 

I have to agree.

 

I couldn't agree more. It seems like Z either has a great game or terrible game. When a game starts to go bad he just loses it.

Edited April 13, 2006 by C.C.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Kearns grounded into a DP, 4-6-3, Hatteberg out at second

[Andy]

WOW hairston.

[RyCubsFan]

I'm sorry, but winning over 15 games ONCE in a season doesen't qualify Zambrano as "elite" or "amazing."

 

I'm not sold on him completely, as being our number 1 guy.

 

 

His ERA over the last 3 years is second lowest in the NL! If that's not elite, what is?

 

How old is he?

 

Elite? No question.

[Fred Hornkohl]

TOP OF THE FOURTH INNING

 

Hatteberg walked

Kearns grounded into a DP, 4-6-3, Hatteberg out at second

Phillips lined out to second base

 

0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 men left on base

 

              1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9    R H E
Cincinnati    1 0 3 0              4 2 0 
CUBS          0 0 0                0 2 0 

 

Home runs: Cincinnati: Dunn (5), Lopez (3)

 

pitcher     IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Milton     3.0  2  0  0  1  3  0  49 

 

pitcher     IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Zambrano   4.0  2  4  4  2  6  2  65 

Edited April 13, 2006 by Fred Hornkohl

[Fro]

Ah, there's what we needed to get some mo back.

[C.C.]

LETS GET SOME RUNS!!!!!!

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

I'm glad Hairston is starting. hitting well, fielding well....

[Andy]

I'm sorry, but winning over 15 games ONCE in a season doesen't qualify Zambrano as "elite" or "amazing."

Do you want to know how many 15-win seasons Jake Peavy has?

[RyCubsFan]

Ah, there's what we needed to get some mo back.

 

Yeah, great grab. Now let's score some runs!

[cubbyvirus00]

I'm sorry, but winning over 15 games ONCE in a season doesen't qualify Zambrano as "elite" or "amazing."

 

I'm not sold on him completely, as being our number 1 guy.

 

 

His ERA over the last 3 years is second lowest in the NL! If that's not elite, what is?

 

How old is he?

 

Elite? No question.

 

I love Zambrano, but he isn't the guy that we would want in a pressure situation. I'm thinking playoffs and world series. I can envision a complete meltdown in a game 7 scenario.

[gus_dog]

Jesus, I am so freakin' sick and tired of seeing Cincy hitters teeing-off on our pitchers!!

 

:x :x :x

[Andy]

MURT IS BACK :D

[jaydee]

so are jones, walker, and aram all hurt?

[Fred Hornkohl]

Murton homered to center field