3/31 ST: Cubs (Marshall) vs. Padres (Williams) 9:05 PM WGNTV

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

yup. he's ML ready all right. :roll:

 

Yes! 1 appearance will determine it!

 

I'm going to love rubbing the obvious in your faces when he fails. The prospect love puts blinders on a lot of you.

 

You're not cheering for Marshall to fail, are you?

 

No. I want him to succeed, but be realistic. The odds of him succeeding are very very slim.

[Jon]

Barrett's gamecalling really needs work.

Two straight fastballs over the heart of the plate.

 

Did he throw his straight change in that inning at all?

 

Nope, his two seamers and curve seemed to be the ones used. There's no radar gun, though, so it was a bit hard to tell on some pitches.

Doesn't make much sense. Would've been useful on Castilla if the first pitch had rightfully been called a strike.

 

I wonder how much they go over scouting reports in spring training at this stage.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

marshall's spring #'s don't look quite so hot now.

 

i'm afraid this may be a failed experiment.

 

His spring #s still look better than Guzman, Hill or Ryu's.

 

his AAA #'s don't.

 

It's a definite gamble, but the Cubs really have no one else (besides Jerome, who should be the 4th starter - but I'd rather have Marshall get consistant outings as the 4 starter). Other pitchers with the stuff of Marshall have succeeded in skipping AAA with limited number of IP above the AA level.

Edited April 1, 2006 by CaliforniaRaisin

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

yup. he's ML ready all right. :roll:

 

Yes! 1 appearance will determine it!

 

I'm going to love rubbing the obvious in your faces when he fails. The prospect love puts blinders on a lot of you.

 

don't be a dick.

 

unless you want people rubbing it in your face when rusch sucks.

 

when have i supported rusch? thanks for being irrational and profane.

[ltb]

yup. he's ML ready all right. :roll:

 

Yes! 1 appearance will determine it!

 

I'm going to love rubbing the obvious in your faces when he fails. The prospect love puts blinders on a lot of you.

 

don't be a dick.

 

don't break NSBB guidelines.

 

despite the language, it's exactly what you're acting like. give it a rest.

[abuck1220]

marshall's spring #'s don't look quite so hot now.

 

i'm afraid this may be a failed experiment.

 

His spring #s still look better than Guzman, Hill or Ryu's.

 

his AAA #'s don't.

 

It's a definite gamble, but the Cubs really have no one else (besides Jerome, who should be the 4th starter - but I'd rather have Marshall get consistant outings as the 4 starter).

 

my preferred course of action would be to leave williams as the #4, and send guzman, hill, and marshall to west tenn or dm and see who's pitching the best when the 15th rolls around.

 

if a decision had to be made right now on the fifth starter, i would have went w/ hill, just b/c of the success he had last year compared to the lack of innings thrown by gooz and marshall. it's dumb to make a decision like that based on 10 ST innings.

[Outshined_One]

No. I want him to succeed, but be realistic. The odds of him succeeding are very very slim.

 

I understand the risks involved with putting a guy with limited experience above AA into a big league rotation. Trust me, I've been following this guy long enough to tell you that while he has a world of potential, he still needs to do some important things such as build up endurance and face more advanced hitters.

 

However, at the moment, the alternatives are not looking all that great. We've seen the results of Spring Training games, yes, but there are also workouts and drills. The coaching staff has been monitoring Guzman, Williams, Hill, and Marshall a great deal. They know their jobs are on the line and aren't going to take any stupid risks.

 

Right now, Marshall has performed better than any of those guys. He wasn't handed the #4 slot blindly. If they think he's the best option, then I think there's something to be said for giving them the benefit of the doubt in a rough situation like this.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

marshall's spring #'s don't look quite so hot now.

 

i'm afraid this may be a failed experiment.

 

His spring #s still look better than Guzman, Hill or Ryu's.

 

his AAA #'s don't.

 

It's a definite gamble, but the Cubs really have no one else (besides Jerome, who should be the 4th starter - but I'd rather have Marshall get consistant outings as the 4 starter).

 

my preferred course of action would be to leave williams as the #4, and send guzman, hill, and marshall to west tenn or dm and see who's pitching the best when the 15th rolls around.

 

if a decision had to be made right now on the fifth starter, i would have went w/ hill, just b/c of the success he had last year compared to the lack of innings thrown by gooz and marshall.

 

Don't have a problem with that, but Hill's control definitely needs to improve back to his 2005 minor league numbers. I would have preferred Marshall starting the season at AA, but of all the pitchers who could make the jump in the system with so few IP, I think Sean would be one of the best suited.

[Outshined_One]

I wonder how much they go over scouting reports in spring training at this stage.

 

Something tells me the Cubs' scouting reports are written in crayon, based on the way Dusty approaches opposing hitters and pitchers...

[Jon]

I wonder how much they go over scouting reports in spring training at this stage.

 

Something tells me the Cubs' scouting reports are written in crayon, based on the way Dusty approaches opposing hitters and pitchers...

Mr. Sketch markers are more fun.

 

And everyone please cool it.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

No. I want him to succeed, but be realistic. The odds of him succeeding are very very slim.

 

I understand the risks involved with putting a guy with limited experience above AA into a big league rotation. Trust me, I've been following this guy long enough to tell you that while he has a world of potential, he still needs to do some important things such as build up endurance and face more advanced hitters.

 

However, at the moment, the alternatives are not looking all that great. We've seen the results of Spring Training games, yes, but there are also workouts and drills. The coaching staff has been monitoring Guzman, Williams, Hill, and Marshall a great deal. They know their jobs are on the line and aren't going to take any stupid risks.

 

Right now, Marshall has performed better than any of those guys. He wasn't handed the #4 slot blindly. If they think he's the best option, then I think there's something to be said for giving them the benefit of the doubt in a rough situation like this.

 

I totally understand sticking someone in there. Marshall is no Mitre or Koronka. He has value and I don't like seeing him getting eaten up just to fill in for guys on the DL. I'd rather see Williams get eaten up. Struggling at the ML level could really hurt Marshall's confidence.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Can you guys take a step back and calm down?

 

EDIT: What Jon said.

[Laura]

If only the Cubs spent as much time dissecting the hitting as we have the pitching.

 

That sucked. Still the first runs he's given up in spring training. Let's see how he does now.

[Outshined_One]

Nice effort by Cedeno on that play.

 

Maybe they give scouts etch-a-sketches...

[ltb]

Right now, Marshall has performed better than any of those guys. He wasn't handed the #4 slot blindly. If they think he's the best option, then I think there's something to be said for giving them the benefit of the doubt in a rough situation like this.

 

well said

[CaliforniaRaisin]

I wonder how much they go over scouting reports in spring training at this stage.

 

Something tells me the Cubs' scouting reports are written in crayon, based on the way Dusty approaches opposing hitters and pitchers...

 

I'd be impressed if anyone besides Maddux (and maybe Prior) on this team put a lot of emphasis in scouting reports.

[Jon]

Wouldn't etch-a-sketches get erased on the plane rides?

 

Wood faced hitters. Nice.

[Outshined_One]

Following his simulated innings, Kerry Wood was handed his 3rd Consecutive Simulated Cy Young, bringing his total up to 5.

[Outshined_One]

Wouldn't etch-a-sketches get erased on the plane rides?

 

It would explain a lot, wouldn't it?

 

Nice recovery that inning.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I thought Cedeno sucked

 

 

 

:D

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Following his simulated innings, Kerry Wood was handed his 3rd Consecutive Simulated Cy Young, bringing his total up to 5.

 

Prior won it in 2004.

 

Nice recovery inning by Sean.

[abuck1220]

Don't have a problem with that, but Hill's control definitely needs to improve back to his 2005 minor league numbers. I would have preferred Marshall starting the season at AA, but of all the pitchers who could make the jump in the system with so few IP, I think Sean would be one of the best suited.

 

marshall's control hasn't been that much better than hill's this spring. though he certainly has a history of better control.

 

you're right though, if i had to pick a guy to jump all the way up, it would be him. good inning right there.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Don't have a problem with that, but Hill's control definitely needs to improve back to his 2005 minor league numbers. I would have preferred Marshall starting the season at AA, but of all the pitchers who could make the jump in the system with so few IP, I think Sean would be one of the best suited.

 

marshall's control hasn't been that much better than hill's this spring. though he certainly has a history of better control.

 

you're right though, if i had to pick a guy to jump all the way up, it would be him. good inning right there.

 

Yeah, it hasn't been that much better and that is to be expected when he is skipping a level to the big leagues (it would be expected from a pitcher going from AAA to the big leagues). As you said, he has the history of better control + his limiting HRs will be keys to early big league success.

[Soul]

It just occurred to me that this season will be a test of Derek Lee's leadership, with all these young players around looking up to him. This is probably Derek's first chance to truly put his personal stamp on a baseball team. He is absolutely 'the guy' on this club, especially with Wood & Prior out.

[Outshined_One]

Marshall looks awkward in the batter's box.