Jump to content
North Side Baseball

Wouldn't Dunn Look Nice in Leftfield?

vance_the_cubs_fan
 Share
  • Replies 289
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

ThePenguin11 Draft Eligible

ThePenguin11

Verified Member
Posted
Posted (edited)
Wait I'm just wondering who said Dunn was among the games "Greatest Hitters"? Just wondering :lol:

 

I think you're getting the context wrong here. I think what I meant was 'greatest' hitters.

 

What I was getting at is people will argue he's over-rated and people will argue that he's under-rated. Then people back it with statistics and the people who don't like stats freak out and call out the stat guys or visa versa. The point is this: every time the name 'Adam Dunn' is even whispered around here it turns into a 45 page thread. Nothing's happening. Nothing's going to happen, so it's all moot. Stop the vicious cycle of Dunn->Stats->Endless Argument while we're still young. No matter what anyone says, the two sides are never going to agree - and Dunn will not be a Cub in 2006. That much is obvious.

Edited by ThePenguin11
ThePenguin11 Draft Eligible

ThePenguin11

Verified Member
Posted
Posted
That is why i said that he would be a difference maker for the cubbies. I agree with everything you are saying Vance. I just am not a fan of the sabermetric system whether it is right or not. I want Dunn plain and simple if we can get him. Who's a better overall player and just making sure you guys agree DLee is much better.

 

Lee was much better in 2005, but for their careers, Dunn has looked better. Based on age, I would probably prefer Dunn as well.

 

For the record, there is no tangible way to differentiate players as difference makers and non-difference makers unless one guy so obviously stinks and the other is a world-beater all-star. When you have two above average players you can't say one is more of a difference maker than the other. It's completely intangible and incalculable.

rocket Iowa Cubs

rocket

Old-Timey Member
Posted
Posted

 

SEX APPEAL: DUNN!

 

D-Lee is an extremely handsome guy, but come on! It's DUNN.

 

http://www.thediamondangle.com/archive/july02/asg1/dunn1.jpg

USSoccer Chicago Cubs

USSoccer

Old-Timey Member
Posted
Posted
Does Dunn makes the Cubs a favorite to win the central?

 

I think so.

yes.

 

...with a healthy rotation it would. God playing LF for the Cubs couldn't save us from some combo of Z/Prior/Wood missing significant time.

 

A top 5 offense could help offset one signifigant pitching injury.

MeatampPotatoesMan ACL Cubs

MeatampPotatoesMan

Verified Member
Posted
Posted
Does Dunn makes the Cubs a favorite to win the central?

 

I think so.

yes.

 

...with a healthy rotation it would. God playing LF for the Cubs couldn't save us from some combo of Z/Prior/Wood missing significant time.

 

A top 5 offense could help offset one signifigant pitching injury.

 

A top 5 offense got Cincinnati 73 wins last season. Texas (another top 5 offense) had 79 wins last season.

treebird All-Star

treebird

Old-Timey Member
Posted
Posted
Does Dunn makes the Cubs a favorite to win the central?

 

I think so.

yes.

 

...with a healthy rotation it would. God playing LF for the Cubs couldn't save us from some combo of Z/Prior/Wood missing significant time.

 

A top 5 offense could help offset one signifigant pitching injury.

 

A top 5 offense got Cincinnati 73 wins last season. Texas (another top 5 offense) had 79 wins last season.

 

ONE park effects

 

TWO one significant pitching injury to us should still leave us with a well above average pitching staff, which cincy and texas didnt have.

Ding Dong Johnson Cooperstown

Ding Dong Johnson

Old-Timey Member
Posted
Posted
It's from American Idol Secrest singing off!

ha, but im mad when i sign off as well!

 

Um, it's "Seacrest out", not Seacrest singing off (although I think you meant signing off). There's a pretty big difference between a Dick singing and a Dick signing, although I've never seen either.

USSoccer Chicago Cubs

USSoccer

Old-Timey Member
Posted
Posted
Does Dunn makes the Cubs a favorite to win the central?

 

I think so.

yes.

 

...with a healthy rotation it would. God playing LF for the Cubs couldn't save us from some combo of Z/Prior/Wood missing significant time.

 

A top 5 offense could help offset one signifigant pitching injury.

 

A top 5 offense got Cincinnati 73 wins last season. Texas (another top 5 offense) had 79 wins last season.

 

ONE park effects

 

TWO one significant pitching injury to us should still leave us with a well above average pitching staff, which cincy and texas didnt have.

 

What Tree said.

MeatampPotatoesMan ACL Cubs

MeatampPotatoesMan

Verified Member
Posted
Posted
Does Dunn makes the Cubs a favorite to win the central?

 

I think so.

yes.

 

...with a healthy rotation it would. God playing LF for the Cubs couldn't save us from some combo of Z/Prior/Wood missing significant time.

 

A top 5 offense could help offset one signifigant pitching injury.

 

A top 5 offense got Cincinnati 73 wins last season. Texas (another top 5 offense) had 79 wins last season.

 

ONE park effects

 

TWO one significant pitching injury to us should still leave us with a well above average pitching staff, which cincy and texas didnt have.

 

Texas was ranked 15 out of 30 in park factors (Cinci was 24).

 

A rotation of Z, Maddux, Rusch, Williams, and Hill/Koronka/whoever is above average? Maybe in the NL, and only just barely. Z is awesome, but he can't make up for the other 4 mediocre arms in the rotation.

 

If everyone's healthy, we're looking at Wood / Prior / Zambrano / Maddux / Williams, which would be amazing. A top 5 offense would definitely put us over 90 wins, maybe even way over depending on the pen.

 

Last year we did have a significant pitching advantage over Cinci (I won't even compare us to Texas since they're in the AL). Other than Claussen and Harang, they were worthless.

 

Let's look at 2005 VORP for our theoretical starting rotation:

Zambrano 51.0

Maddux 28.1

Williams 16.0

Rusch 11.1

Hill/Koronka/whoever - x

 

Let's look at Florida, an average pitching staff in 2005.

Willis 68.1

Beckett 36.2

Burnett 33.1

Moehler 16.3

Lieter -11.2 (in 80.0 IP)

 

The 2005 Marlins were average/below average in the NL for OPS, WHIP, K/BB, and ERA.

 

The numbers they put up are much better than what our theoretical staff can put up. Throw in Prior at a VORP of 30.8 instead of our minor leaguer and we still don't make up the difference.

Soul MVP

Soul

Old-Timey Member
Posted
Posted

We need any and all help for this dreadful outfield.

 

I'd take Dunn, and any number of others. Of course, at this late date, very few will actually be available.

bmkhawk College Ball

bmkhawk

Verified Member
Posted
Posted
We need any and all help for this dreadful outfield.

 

I'd take Dunn, and any number of others. Of course, at this late date, very few will actually be available.

 

If this is a dreadful outfield, then what would you call last year's?

CubinNY MVP

CubinNY

Old-Timey Member
Posted
Posted
We need any and all help for this dreadful outfield.

 

I'd take Dunn, and any number of others. Of course, at this late date, very few will actually be available.

 

If this is a dreadful outfield, then what would you call last year's?

Dreadfuler?

Ding Dong Johnson Cooperstown

Ding Dong Johnson

Old-Timey Member
Posted
Posted
We need any and all help for this dreadful outfield.

 

I'd take Dunn, and any number of others. Of course, at this late date, very few will actually be available.

 

If this is a dreadful outfield, then what would you call last year's?

Dreadfuler?

 

Wouldn't it be dreadfullerest since there's more than 2 of them? :D

Soul MVP

Soul

Old-Timey Member
Posted
Posted
We need any and all help for this dreadful outfield.

 

I'd take Dunn, and any number of others. Of course, at this late date, very few will actually be available.

 

If this is a dreadful outfield, then what would you call last year's?

Dreadfuler?

 

Wouldn't it be dreadfullerest since there's more than 2 of them? :D

 

Scary dreadful 8)

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing
The North Side Baseball Caretaker Fund
The North Side Baseball Caretaker Fund

You all care about this site. The next step is caring for it. We’re asking you to caretake this site so it can remain the premier Cubs community on the internet. Included with caretaking is ad-free browsing of North Side Baseball.

Become a Caretaker

  • Member Statistics

    6,793
    Total Members
    13,056
    Most Online
    Kevin OBrien
    Newest Member
    Kevin OBrien
    Joined
×
×
  • Create New...