Cards Rotation 07 - Which direction to go?

[indifferent]

Cards are going to be in a world of hurt in 07 when Mulder, Suppan, and Marquis are all free agents. Signing three solid free agent pitchers will cost a ton. What would you do if you're the Cards?

 

a. Sign Marquis to an extension because he's the only pitcher where you have fairly good leverage at this time.

 

b. Sign Mulder to an extension (you can only pick this option if you think Mulder would go for it).

 

c. Wait and see approach (i.e. Reyes pans out, hope for Wainwright or another low cost surprise).

 

Feel free to add other options.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

Cards are going to be in a world of hurt in 07 when Mulder, Suppan, and Marquis are all free agents. Signing three solid free agent pitchers will cost a ton. What would you do if you're the Cards?

 

a. Sign Marquis to an extension because he's the only pitcher where you have fairly good leverage at this time.

 

b. Sign Mulder to an extension (you can only pick this option if you think Mulder would go for it).

 

c. Wait and see approach (i.e. Reyes pans out, hope for Wainwright or another low cost surprise).

 

Feel free to add other options.

 

Ack, I don't want to think about this but I'll pick A since I don't think B is an option. That said I don't think the Cardinal org is sold on Marquis.

[Burtonbell]

After what the Cards gave up to get Mulder, It would suck to lose him like that.

 

Marquis is a bit over rated IMO, I say try to resign Mulder. If Wainwright and Reyes both pan out (big ifs at this early of a stage), then at least they have two decent to good startes in the rotation. Spend the big money on hitter since who knows who Rolen will hold up and how the OF situation will look like.

 

When is Edmonds contract up?

[indifferent]

After what the Cards gave up to get Mulder, It would suck to lose him like that.

 

Marquis is a bit over rated IMO, I say try to resign Mulder. If Wainwright and Reyes both pan out (big ifs at this early of a stage), then at least they have two decent to good startes in the rotation. Spend the big money on hitter since who knows who Rolen will hold up and how the OF situation will look like.

 

When is Edmonds contract up?

 

After this year w/ expensive club option for 07.

 

Mulder's just going to cost too much in free agency next year and it's not the Cards style to overpay like that. His peripherals are declining and he's not a power pitcher. The Mulder trade was a bad deal, but it still doesn't make sense to overpay for his performance. We'll see how he does this year, I guess. I think there's no chance Mulder doesn't test the market.

[SouthSideRyan]

What's Wainright's deal? Is he over his injuries?

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I think Mulder is going to get very, very expensive. That being said, he would be the one I'd target.

 

Being a Cubs fan, I hope he leaves!

[Inthecards]

well how bout option D- Sign Mark Prior since he has cut the contract short and is going to arb. this year.

 

You know he has always been a Card fan

 

http://www.angelfire.com/ill/gambitmachete/prior.jpg

 

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:

 

http://www.angelfire.com/ill/gambitmachete/cardinals.html

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

well how bout option D- Sign Mark Prior since he has cut the contract short and is going to arb. this year.

 

You know he has always been a Card fan

 

http://www.angelfire.com/ill/gambitmachete/prior.jpg

 

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:

 

http://www.angelfire.com/ill/gambitmachete/cardinals.html

 

He's still under Cubs control for three years, so I guess they can take their shot at him after 2008.

[wolf stansson]

I thought he grew up a Cubs fan?

 

If so I feel for him in that picture. I was forced to be on the Cubs 4 years in a row in little league.

[dalgreen]

Wait a minute..... didn't they build a new stadium so that payroll wouldn't have to be as big an issue as it was pre-new stadium? I apologize; I digress.

 

I would re-sign Mulder, and as I said during last season, they should deal Marquis during the off-season. What a difference five years make. Five years ago, people thought the rotation for 2005-2007 would be anchored by Morris, Ankiel, Bud Smith and Chad Hutchinson.

[indifferent]

Wait a minute..... didn't they build a new stadium so that payroll wouldn't have to be as big an issue as it was pre-new stadium? I apologize; I digress.

 

I would re-sign Mulder, and as I said during last season, they should deal Marquis during the off-season. What a difference five years make. Five years ago, people thought the rotation for 2005-2007 would be anchored by Morris, Ankiel, Bud Smith and Chad Hutchinson.

 

I posted about the new stadium=status quo payroll before. Not a happy camper (or Cards fan). I just don't think there's a chance they'll be able to extend Mulder prior to his free agency. Unfortunately leaves the Cards with few options heading into next year. Once he hits free agency, it's the old Catch 22 where he has a great season and seriously inflates his value or he tanks in which case, why would you want to pay for past performance with declining trends anyway?

[jiml60]

When does Mark Buerhle become available to pitch for his beloved Cards?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

When does Mark Buerhle become available to pitch for his beloved Cards?

 

He's FA eligible after this season, but the Sox have a team option for '07.

[Derwood]

pardon me, but i just woke up from a 3 year coma......why would this be an issue with Ankiel and Bud Smith fronting the rotatopn?

[wolf stansson]

pardon me, but i just woke up from a 3 year coma......why would this be an issue with Ankiel and Bud Smith fronting the rotatopn?

Because Alan Benes and Matt Morris were just too dominant for us to resign. They both play for the Yankees now. We just need some arms to fill in around Rick and Bud.

[Derwood]

pardon me, but i just woke up from a 3 year coma......why would this be an issue with Ankiel and Bud Smith fronting the rotatopn?

Because Alan Benes and Matt Morris were just too dominant for us to resign. They both play for the Yankees now. We just need some arms to fill in around Rick and Bud.

 

As long as you still have Darryl Kile as your #3 you should be alright

[minnesotacubsfan]

pardon me, but i just woke up from a 3 year coma......why would this be an issue with Ankiel and Bud Smith fronting the rotatopn?

Because Alan Benes and Matt Morris were just too dominant for us to resign. They both play for the Yankees now. We just need some arms to fill in around Rick and Bud.

 

As long as you still have Darryl Kile as your #3 you should be alright

 

DUUUUUUDE........TOO SOON

[Derwood]

pardon me, but i just woke up from a 3 year coma......why would this be an issue with Ankiel and Bud Smith fronting the rotatopn?

Because Alan Benes and Matt Morris were just too dominant for us to resign. They both play for the Yankees now. We just need some arms to fill in around Rick and Bud.

 

As long as you still have Darryl Kile as your #3 you should be alright

 

DUUUUUUDE........TOO SOON

 

Too soon? Wasn't that like 3 or 4 years ago?

[vaball]

pardon me, but i just woke up from a 3 year coma......why would this be an issue with Ankiel and Bud Smith fronting the rotatopn?

Because Alan Benes and Matt Morris were just too dominant for us to resign. They both play for the Yankees now. We just need some arms to fill in around Rick and Bud.

 

As long as you still have Darryl Kile as your #3 you should be alright

 

Maybe that explains the strange success of our staff. The ghost of Darryl Kile is on their side.

[wolf stansson]

I say we trade Adam Wainright and John Gall for Johan Santana. That would do it.

[K-Town]

After what the Cards gave up to get Mulder, It would suck to lose him like that.

 

Marquis is a bit over rated IMO, I say try to resign Mulder. If Wainwright and Reyes both pan out (big ifs at this early of a stage), then at least they have two decent to good startes in the rotation. Spend the big money on hitter since who knows who Rolen will hold up and how the OF situation will look like.

 

When is Edmonds contract up?

 

After this year w/ expensive club option for 07.

 

Mulder's just going to cost too much in free agency next year and it's not the Cards style to overpay like that. His peripherals are declining and he's not a power pitcher. The Mulder trade was a bad deal, but it still doesn't make sense to overpay for his performance. We'll see how he does this year, I guess. I think there's no chance Mulder doesn't test the market.

 

The Edmonds option for '07 isn't bad. In fact, he'll go from $12 mil in '06 to $10 mil in '07. The buy-out is $3 mil, so they'd be much better off paying the extra $7 mil to keep him. At $10 mil, he'll be a bargain.

 

Mulder will be over-valued, in my opinion, and the Cards should go a different route. It sounds like Marquis will be in the plans, along with Reyes and Carpenter. Wainwright COULD earn a spot by '07, but I'd hate to count on him, at this point. Suppan might get an extension, at some point. Otherwise, you use the $11 mil that you're paying Suppan and Mulder in '06, and head to the free agent market.