Levine reports on Tejada for Prior rumor 12/22 - 26

[Backtobanks]

From this morning, levine is cohosting today. the big topic is the "would you trade prior for tejada?"

 

- said that no player on this team is "untouchable", if it makes sense it makes sense.

 

Two offers on the table, one is a young package and the other the prior/tejada deal mentioned in another thread.

 

OFFER A: Guzman, Hill, Patterson, and Dopirak for Tejada. Orioles dont want Cedeno, they will sign like an Alex Gonzalez to fill the SS role.

OFFER B: Prior and Hill for Tejada, Bedard and one of their top OF prospects (didn't hear who as my damn radio cut out right as they mentioned the name.)

 

While he did say anybody could be traded, he is not sure if he would do it or not.

 

That's the best news I've heard in a long time. Now if we could just convince Dusty that playing Cedeno at 2B is better than playing Perez there.

[E.J.]

Seriously, if Hendry trades Prior for Tejada I'm going to flip out. I will probably be banned from NSBB for a while because of it. I like NSBB a lot, so this better not happen.

[XZero771679666304]

Seriously, if Hendry trades Prior for Tejada I'm going to flip out. I will probably be banned from NSBB for a while because of it. I like NSBB a lot, so this better not happen.

 

The level of venting that trade would require me to have could not be done on a computer. In fact, I'd be as far away from the expensive electronics as possible.

 

I think such an occasion would call for breakables and a baseball bat.

[E.J.]

Moving On. So...Prior for Tejada, huh? That would be one big kick in the nuts, stabbing in the heart, girlfriend cheated on you with your best friend, your dog just died type of pain, wouldn't it?

 

:wall: :cry: :wall: :cry:

[Ding Dong Johnson]

OFFER C: Prior and Hill for Tejada, Bedard and PTBNL where the PTBNL turns out to be Prior.

 

Is this one possible?

[KingCubsFan]

If we're really going to trade Prior, why not try to do this:

A's get: Rich Hill, Erik Bedard, Felix Pie

Orioles get: Mark Prior, Guzman, Walker, Brian Dopirak

Cubs get: Tejada, Zito

The A's get that #3 starter they've been looking for in Bedard, the Orioles get Prior, and we get a #2 starter and Tejada. We'd be taking on a lot of salary, that's why I included Walker, and we'd have to trade Patterson too.

[erik316wttn]

If we're really going to trade Prior, why not try to do this:

A's get: Rich Hill, Erik Bedard, Felix Pie

Orioles get: Mark Prior, Guzman, Walker, Brian Dopirak

Cubs get: Tejada, Zito

The A's get that #3 starter they've been looking for in Bedard, the Orioles get Prior, and we get a #2 starter and Tejada. We'd be taking on a lot of salary, that's why I included Walker, and we'd have to trade Patterson too.

 

You want to trade Hill, Pie, Prior, Guz, Walker, AND Dope for Tejada and Zito?

 

I sure hope we'd win now, because trading the whole farm like that, if you didn't win in the next few years, we'd be back to about 5+ 90-loss seasons.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Bruce knows Hendry. Maybe we should take up a collection for Bruce to slap him silly for us. I'll put in the first $20.

[treebird]

i really wish i had never said anything about suicide previous to this, because what im about to say would be a lot more effective if that were the case.

 

but if the cubs trade prior for miguel tejada and prospects who aren't delmon young, they will have exhibited such a pathetic misunderstanding of player valuation that i will have no choice but to take my own life and become a legend in the annals or martyrdom.

[Brendan]

From this morning, levine is cohosting today. the big topic is the "would you trade prior for tejada?"

 

- said that no player on this team is "untouchable", if it makes sense it makes sense.

 

Two offers on the table, one is a young package and the other the prior/tejada deal mentioned in another thread.

 

OFFER A: Guzman, Hill, Patterson, and Dopirak for Tejada. Orioles dont want Cedeno, they will sign like an Alex Gonzalez to fill the SS role.

 

OFFER B: Prior and Hill for Tejada, Bedard and one of their top OF prospects (didn't hear who as my damn radio cut out right as they mentioned the name.)

 

While he did say anybody could be traded, he is not sure if he would do it or not.

 

just out of curiosity, was that corey or eric?

[goonys evil twin]

If we're really going to trade Prior, why not try to do this:

A's get: Rich Hill, Erik Bedard, Felix Pie

Orioles get: Mark Prior, Guzman, Walker, Brian Dopirak

Cubs get: Tejada, Zito

The A's get that #3 starter they've been looking for in Bedard, the Orioles get Prior, and we get a #2 starter and Tejada. We'd be taking on a lot of salary, that's why I included Walker, and we'd have to trade Patterson too.

 

Prior is the most valuable piece in that puzzle. He's worth more than just Tejada or Zito alone. If the Cubs are losing Prior, Pie, Hill, Guzman, Walker and Dopirak, that is too much. Pie, Hill, Guzman, Walker and Dopirak is a lot to give up for a good but apparantly plateaud soon to be 28 year old lefty that is just 1 year away from free agency. Prior is clearly the better of the two pitchers, even though he's less accomplished. After a blazing start to his career Zito has hit a bump and had his two worst seasons back to back. But he's still going to make a killing in free agency.

 

So anyway. Prior for Tejada? Cubs need to get more back. Pie, Hill, Guzman, Walker and Dopiral for Zito? Cubs giving up too much. Take one of those first three prospects off the table and we're talking. Remember, Oakland is losing Zito after this year. I don't see any other team trading them 3 prospects of the Pie, Hill, Guzman caliber plus a good cheap veteran like Walker and a highly touted but enigmatic prospect like Dopirak as a sweetener. Dope is the type of guy that would be featured in a lot of trades. The team that gets him will talk about how "just a year ago" he was their top prospect, and he's only had a minor setback.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

OK, back to the Prior/Tejada thing (again). If Hendry said absolutely no way to Prior for Abreu when we had a HUUUUUGE hole in RF, why the maybe or heck yeah for Tejada when we don't have such a gaping hole? I want Miggy, but I want Prior more.

[goonys evil twin]

Not trading Prior. Would be a huge mistake. Not trading Prior. Would be a huge mistake. Not trading Prior. Would be a huge mistake. Not trading Prior. Would be a huge mistake. Not trading Prior. Would be a huge mistake. Not trading Prior. Would be a huge mistake. Not trading Prior. Would be a huge mistake. Not trading Prior. Would be a huge mistake. Not trading Prior. Would be a huge mistake.

 

I have to ask this question, it's been bugging me since I read this.

 

 

Are you saying

 

Not trading Prior would be a huge mistake. (insinuating he's got to go)

 

Or

 

Trading Prior would be a huge mistake, so I'm not doing it.

[KingCubsFan]

Prior is the most valuable piece in that puzzle. He's worth more than just Tejada or Zito alone. If the Cubs are losing Prior, Pie, Hill, Guzman, Walker and Dopirak, that is too much. Pie, Hill, Guzman, Walker and Dopirak is a lot to give up for a good but apparantly plateaud soon to be 28 year old lefty that is just 1 year away from free agency. Prior is clearly the better of the two pitchers, even though he's less accomplished. After a blazing start to his career Zito has hit a bump and had his two worst seasons back to back. But he's still going to make a killing in free agency.

 

So anyway. Prior for Tejada? Cubs need to get more back. Pie, Hill, Guzman, Walker and Dopiral for Zito? Cubs giving up too much. Take one of those first three prospects off the table and we're talking. Remember, Oakland is losing Zito after this year. I don't see any other team trading them 3 prospects of the Pie, Hill, Guzman caliber plus a good cheap veteran like Walker and a highly touted but enigmatic prospect like Dopirak as a sweetener. Dope is the type of guy that would be featured in a lot of trades. The team that gets him will talk about how "just a year ago" he was their top prospect, and he's only had a minor setback.

You're right about giving up too much for Zito. Pie probably wouldn't be necessary, since they're already getting Bedard and Hill. But the Cubs do get more than just Tejada for Prior. They also get Bedard, who they spin to the A's.

[B]

Not trading Prior. Would be a huge mistake. Not trading Prior. Would be a huge mistake. Not trading Prior. Would be a huge mistake. Not trading Prior. Would be a huge mistake. Not trading Prior. Would be a huge mistake. Not trading Prior. Would be a huge mistake. Not trading Prior. Would be a huge mistake. Not trading Prior. Would be a huge mistake. Not trading Prior. Would be a huge mistake.

 

I have to ask this question, it's been bugging me since I read this.

 

 

Are you saying

 

Not trading Prior would be a huge mistake. (insinuating he's got to go)

 

Or

 

Trading Prior would be a huge mistake, so I'm not doing it.

 

I was wondering the same thing. It helps when people use some type of correct grammar.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

OK, back to the Prior/Tejada thing (again). Seriously.

[B]

OK, back to the Prior/Tejada thing (again). Seriously.

 

Aren't you the one that told me to go hi-jack a thread and come back and tell you.

[goonys evil twin]

Prior is the most valuable piece in that puzzle. He's worth more than just Tejada or Zito alone. If the Cubs are losing Prior, Pie, Hill, Guzman, Walker and Dopirak, that is too much. Pie, Hill, Guzman, Walker and Dopirak is a lot to give up for a good but apparantly plateaud soon to be 28 year old lefty that is just 1 year away from free agency. Prior is clearly the better of the two pitchers, even though he's less accomplished. After a blazing start to his career Zito has hit a bump and had his two worst seasons back to back. But he's still going to make a killing in free agency.

 

So anyway. Prior for Tejada? Cubs need to get more back. Pie, Hill, Guzman, Walker and Dopiral for Zito? Cubs giving up too much. Take one of those first three prospects off the table and we're talking. Remember, Oakland is losing Zito after this year. I don't see any other team trading them 3 prospects of the Pie, Hill, Guzman caliber plus a good cheap veteran like Walker and a highly touted but enigmatic prospect like Dopirak as a sweetener. Dope is the type of guy that would be featured in a lot of trades. The team that gets him will talk about how "just a year ago" he was their top prospect, and he's only had a minor setback.

You're right about giving up too much for Zito. Pie probably wouldn't be necessary, since they're already getting Bedard and Hill. But the Cubs do get more than just Tejada for Prior. They also get Bedard, who they spin to the A's.

 

But you have to take into account what they get in the end. They get Tejada and Zito. You have to weight what you give up with what you get. Bedard is never really theres, no matter how they file the paperwork. Prior for Tejada is too much. And all those other guys for Zito is too much. If you want to say Prior for Tejada and Bedard is equal, and Bedard and all the others for Zito is way too much, it doesn't really make a difference.

 

But Tejada and Bedard are not enough for Prior.

 

If you trade Prior, you better get a superstar position player under 28 who is not close to free agency.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

OK, back to the Prior/Tejada thing (again). Seriously.

 

Aren't you the one that told me to go hi-jack a thread and come back and tell you.

 

Touche. Um, that was different?

[JeffH]

Trading Prior for Tejada would be foolish.

 

Trading Prior and Hill for Tejada, Bedard, and Markakis is worth considering.

 

Bedard isn't chopped liver and Markakis is a potentially dominant corner outfielder.

[YearofDaCubs]

Trading Prior for Tejada would be foolish.

 

Trading Prior and Hill for Tejada, Bedard, and Markakis is worth considering.

 

Bedard isn't chopped liver and Markakis is a potentially dominant corner outfielder.

I like Bedard and all but he has more of an injury history than Prior does.

[biittner77]

Not trading Prior. Would be a huge mistake. Not trading Prior. Would be a huge mistake. Not trading Prior. Would be a huge mistake. Not trading Prior. Would be a huge mistake. Not trading Prior. Would be a huge mistake. Not trading Prior. Would be a huge mistake. Not trading Prior. Would be a huge mistake. Not trading Prior. Would be a huge mistake. Not trading Prior. Would be a huge mistake.

 

All work and no play makes BalsaWoodKeyBoard a very dull boy.

All work and no play makes BalsaWoodKeyBoard a very dull boy.

All work and no play makes BalsaWoodKeyBoard a very dull boy.

All work and no play makes BalsaWoodKeyBoard a very dull boy.

 

No TV and no beer make Homer go something something?

Go Crazy?

Don't mind if I DO!!!

 

"Feeling Fine", well, that's encouraging.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Anyone remember that Prior/Tejada rumor?

[Slugger_16]

Anyone remember that Prior/Tejada rumor?

 

No, we all want to forget it's there.

[goonys evil twin]

Bedard isn't chopped liver and Markakis is a potentially dominant corner outfielder.

 

Bedard isn't really all that impressive either. He's 3 years older than Jerome Williams, and his major league numbers aren't any better. He does have a nice minor league record, but is it any better than Rich Hill's? Probably a little. But seriously, if Bedard, Hill and Williams battle for a spot, do you see a clear-cut distinction? If I'm dealing a pre peak, pre free agency, top ten pitcher, and getting back a post-peak top 10 position player, I need more than a Bedard to sweeten the pot.