RUMOR: Bradley to Blue Jays

[Mizzou]

I agree Warren, most posters on this board have huge problems with a guy who doesn't play the whole season but have a love affair with Milton Bradley. These our Burnitz's numbers for us last year. (Note, in 04 they were significantly better)

160 605 84 156 31 2 24 87 263 57 109 5 4 .322 .435 .258

 

Bradley's 05 numbers

75 283 49 82 14 1 13 38 137 25 47 6 1 .350 .484 .290

 

Is that really that much of an upgrade. Added in the fact Burnitz was there every day. He just came to the ballpark to play and that's the best part of him in my book. If you look into Milton's numbers they are very inconsistent. With the projected lineup of Neifi/Cedeno or Walker up the middle, Murton in left, Pierre in Center, I want a stud for right. No mediocre RF. That list is short and everyone knows the wishlist so I just hope and pray Hendry pulls one out of the hat and lands us a stud. Say no to Bradley.

 

Great start with the generalization. And Burnitz 04 numbers were significantly better because he played 81 games in Coors Field. And Bradley's numbers ARE in fact VERY VERY significantly better. Granted, they are not over a full season, but I wish Burnitz's weren't either.

 

Good God this board is oversensitive lately. The majority of the vocal regulars DO in fact want Bradley.

[Careless]

I agree Warren, most posters on this board have huge problems with a guy who doesn't play the whole season but have a love affair with Milton Bradley. These our Burnitz's numbers for us last year. (Note, in 04 they were significantly better)

160 605 84 156 31 2 24 87 263 57 109 5 4 .322 .435 .258

 

Bradley's 05 numbers

75 283 49 82 14 1 13 38 137 25 47 6 1 .350 .484 .290

 

Is that really that much of an upgrade. Added in the fact Burnitz was there every day. He just came to the ballpark to play and that's the best part of him in my book. If you look into Milton's numbers they are very inconsistent. With the projected lineup of Neifi/Cedeno or Walker up the middle, Murton in left, Pierre in Center, I want a stud for right. No mediocre RF. That list is short and everyone knows the wishlist so I just hope and pray Hendry pulls one out of the hat and lands us a stud. Say no to Bradley.

 

Great start with the generalization. And Burnitz 04 numbers were significantly better because he played 81 games in Coors Field. And Bradley's numbers ARE in fact VERY VERY significantly better. Granted, they are not over a full season, but I wish Burnitz's weren't either.

 

Good God this board is oversensitive lately. The majority of the vocal regulars DO in fact want Bradley.

They wanted him for Cf. the number who have a strong desire for him has dropped significantly since it became obvious hendry had found his CF

[DougDascenzo]

Wasn't it the Jays who were rumored to be looking into acquiring Wilkerson??

 

 

Maybe Hendry has thrown his hat in that direction(Wilkerson) and the jays are considering other options??

 

 

 

Just hopin'?

 

 

 

why does everyone think that Bradley will not provide enough production as a right fielder.

 

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because hes never played in more than 141 games

[Diffusion]

While I'm sitting here dreaming here's a list of players I hope Hendry at least picks up the phone and asks if they're available...

Ordonez

 

Look, if Dusty Baker can get over Rey Ordonez, so can you.

 

Don't try and tell me you meant Magglio. The best case scenario with the guy is that he has $63m coming to him over the next four years, he stays healthy and he merits being paid about two thirds of that. The worst case scenario is basically Darren Dreifort.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Good God this board is oversensitive lately. The majority of the vocal regulars DO in fact want Bradley.

 

Just in case anyone's counting, I do NOT want Bradley. Never have, never will. If he was ever able to produce at a high level for at least 2-3 seasons AND played in 150+ games, I would then consider lightening my opinion of him. As it stands now, the guy can't stay healthy and can barely stay out of jail. Let him go to Toronto or Oakland or anywhere else but the northside of Chicago.

[NoDak]

I agree Warren, most posters on this board have huge problems with a guy who doesn't play the whole season but have a love affair with Milton Bradley.

These our Burnitz's numbers for us last year. (Note, in 04 they were significantly better)

160 605 84 156 31 2 24 87 263 57 109 5 4 .322 .435 .258

 

Bradley's 05 numbers

75 283 49 82 14 1 13 38 137 25 47 6 1 .350 .484 .290

 

Is that really that much of an upgrade. Added in the fact Burnitz was there every day. He just came to the ballpark to play and that's the best part of him in my book. If you look into Milton's numbers they are very inconsistent. With the projected lineup of Neifi/Cedeno or Walker up the middle, Murton in left, Pierre in Center, I want a stud for right. No mediocre RF. That list is short and everyone knows the wishlist so I just hope and pray Hendry pulls one out of the hat and lands us a stud. Say no to Bradley.

 

I am stunned by this post. Where to begin.

 

If CHC can acquire him on the cheap (and I think they can) they get, as has already been pointed out, a younger player than Burnitz and he can play CF when Pierre needs time off relieving us having to watch Jerry Hairston flounder around in CF (and if you like "good route running" look away with Hairston). It would also really help shore up the line-up.

 

Is there a big difference? Well, let's look at it this way (we'll ignore BA because that is included in OBP--but it favors Bradley anyway so this isn't going to be me cherry-picking stats): .028 difference in OBP and .49 difference in SLG is HUGE! Let's say that they both get 500 ABs. That results in 14 more times on base and an additional 25 bases. Even if you want to say that Burnitz plays more games, he also makes more outs (not a good thing).

 

Put on top of that that Dodger stadium is a pitcher's park while Wrigley actually was more of a hitters park last year meaning that both numbers were skewed in opposite directions.

 

To level the playing field let's look at OPS+ (it equalizes for home fields). Bradley chimes in at 121, Burnitz at 96. Not good. For perspective a difference of 25 points would mean the difference between Neifi Perez (77) and Julio Lugo (105) and I haven't seen ANYONE post that the "drop" from Lugo to Perez would be even an issue.

 

Sorry, even if Burnitz is a better defender (and I don't know that he is) I don't think he would begin to make up for the difference in offensive output. Wilkerson is a far better comparison for Bradley than Burnitz.

[Lefty]

These our Burnitz's numbers for us last year. (Note, in 04 they were significantly better)

160 605 84 156 31 2 24 87 263 57 109 5 4 .322 .435 .258

 

Bradley's 05 numbers

75 283 49 82 14 1 13 38 137 25 47 6 1 .350 .484 .290

 

Is that really that much of an upgrade. Say no to Bradley.

 

Bradley did this in Dodger Stadium, though. Over a full season, Bradley's rates would have crushed Burnitz who is a gamer, comes to play, just goes about his business and in 2004 was sixth in the NL in SLG for those who struck out more than 100 times .

[E.J.]

Looks like the rumors might not be true about Bradley to the Blue Jays. Rotoworld:

 

Milton Bradley - OF - Dodgers

 

 

Blue Jays GM. J.P. Ricciardi said he's not interested in the rumored Milton Bradley-for-Miguel Batista trade.

Bradley talks with the Cubs have also reportedly cooled, though they remain the favorites for the troubled outfielder. Dec. 9 - 3:46 pm et

Source: Toronto Sun

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Looks like the rumors might not be true about Bradley to the Blue Jays. Rotoworld:

 

Milton Bradley - OF - Dodgers

 

 

Blue Jays GM. J.P. Ricciardi said he's not interested in the rumored Milton Bradley-for-Miguel Batista trade.

Bradley talks with the Cubs have also reportedly cooled, though they remain the favorites for the troubled outfielder. Dec. 9 - 3:46 pm et

Source: Toronto Sun

 

Good news (highlighted).

[Lefty]

Looks like the rumors might not be true about Bradley to the Blue Jays. Rotoworld:

 

Milton Bradley - OF - Dodgers

 

 

Blue Jays GM. J.P. Ricciardi said he's not interested in the rumored Milton Bradley-for-Miguel Batista trade.

Bradley talks with the Cubs have also reportedly cooled, though they remain the favorites for the troubled outfielder. Dec. 9 - 3:46 pm et

Source: Toronto Sun

 

Good news (highlighted).

 

Let's get him. You can't go wrong stockpiling really good players on the cheap.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Let's get him. You can't go wrong stockpiling really good players on the cheap.

 

I'll quote myself from earlier:

 

I do NOT want Bradley. Never have, never will. If he was ever able to produce at a high level for at least 2-3 seasons AND played in 150+ games, I would then consider lightening my opinion of him. As it stands now, the guy can't stay healthy and can barely stay out of jail. Let him go to Toronto or Oakland or anywhere else but the northside of Chicago.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Good God this board is oversensitive lately. The majority of the vocal regulars DO in fact want Bradley.

 

Just in case anyone's counting, I do NOT want Bradley. Never have, never will. If he was ever able to produce at a high level for at least 2-3 seasons AND played in 150+ games, I would then consider lightening my opinion of him. As it stands now, the guy can't stay healthy and can barely stay out of jail. Let him go to Toronto or Oakland or anywhere else but the northside of Chicago.

 

Bradley has been charged with as many crimes as the pope. That story is overblown. If you're concerned about him being healthy that's one thing, but the guy has produced at a high level for the last several years when he's out there, and contrary to what some think he is not the devil incarnate.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Good God this board is oversensitive lately. The majority of the vocal regulars DO in fact want Bradley.

 

Just in case anyone's counting, I do NOT want Bradley. Never have, never will. If he was ever able to produce at a high level for at least 2-3 seasons AND played in 150+ games, I would then consider lightening my opinion of him. As it stands now, the guy can't stay healthy and can barely stay out of jail. Let him go to Toronto or Oakland or anywhere else but the northside of Chicago.

 

Bradley has been charged with as many crimes as the pope. That story is overblown. If you're concerned about him being healthy that's one thing, but the guy has produced at a high level for the last several years when he's out there, and contrary to what some think he is not the devil incarnate.

 

That story or those stories? One incident is one thing, repeated character flaws are another.

[YearofDaCubs]

Who do you guys expect to get? Who else is available? Do you guys really want J.Jones, Encarnacion, or a return of Burnitz here? I don't know what the asking price is for Bradley it could be high but the asking price to make a trade is going to be really high for us so our options are limited. If I had to choose from Bradley or the FA OFers available I would choose Bradley.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Good God this board is oversensitive lately. The majority of the vocal regulars DO in fact want Bradley.

 

Just in case anyone's counting, I do NOT want Bradley. Never have, never will. If he was ever able to produce at a high level for at least 2-3 seasons AND played in 150+ games, I would then consider lightening my opinion of him. As it stands now, the guy can't stay healthy and can barely stay out of jail. Let him go to Toronto or Oakland or anywhere else but the northside of Chicago.

 

Bradley has been charged with as many crimes as the pope. That story is overblown. If you're concerned about him being healthy that's one thing, but the guy has produced at a high level for the last several years when he's out there, and contrary to what some think he is not the devil incarnate.

 

That story or those stories? One incident is one thing, repeated character flaws are another.

 

Repeated character flaws? He did what about half of baseball players would've done, he reacted when someone threw a beer bottle at them. He and his wife also got into an altercation, where both parties were at fault. If it were some terrible thing, his wife would've pressed charges at one of her 3 opportunites, including when Milton wasn't there. An outside prosecutor also declined to press charges. Lugo had the same thing happen to him a couple years ago, but no one's avoiding him for character reasons. The entire thing is overblown.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Who do you guys expect to get? Who else is available? Do you guys really want J.Jones, Encarnacion, or a return of Burnitz here? I don't know what the asking price is for Bradley it could be high but the asking price to make a trade is going to be really high for us so our options are limited. If I had to choose from Bradley or the FA OFers available I would choose Bradley.

 

Well, at least Jones would be in the lineup consistently. I'd take Jones playing 150+ games over Bradley for 80 and Mabry for 80.

 

Edit: I am in no way advocating Jacque Jones. I also think he would be a terrible option.

Edited December 9, 2005 by Ding Dong Johnson

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Repeated character flaws? He did what about half of baseball players would've done, he reacted when someone threw a beer bottle at them. He and his wife also got into an altercation, where both parties were at fault. If it were some terrible thing, his wife would've pressed charges at one of her 3 opportunites, including when Milton wasn't there. An outside prosecutor also declined to press charges. Lugo had the same thing happen to him a couple years ago, but no one's avoiding him for character reasons. The entire thing is overblown.

 

Believe what you want. You want him, I don't. I think he's a timebomb.

 

Why not a stronger push for JD Drew? Don't they play about as often? Aren't Drew's numbers far superior? Doesn't Drew play RF?

 

For what it's worth, I have no respect for Lugo either.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

Repeated character flaws? He did what about half of baseball players would've done, he reacted when someone threw a beer bottle at them. He and his wife also got into an altercation, where both parties were at fault. If it were some terrible thing, his wife would've pressed charges at one of her 3 opportunites, including when Milton wasn't there. An outside prosecutor also declined to press charges. Lugo had the same thing happen to him a couple years ago, but no one's avoiding him for character reasons. The entire thing is overblown.

 

Believe what you want. You want him, I don't. I think he's a timebomb.

 

Why not a stronger push for JD Drew? Don't they play about as often? Aren't Drew's numbers far superior? Doesn't Drew play RF?

 

For what it's worth, I have no respect for Lugo either.

 

how much does drew make? bradley? :wink:

[SAMMYWHO]

I agree Warren, most posters on this board have huge problems with a guy who doesn't play the whole season but have a love affair with Milton Bradley.

These our Burnitz's numbers for us last year. (Note, in 04 they were significantly better)

160 605 84 156 31 2 24 87 263 57 109 5 4 .322 .435 .258

 

Bradley's 05 numbers

75 283 49 82 14 1 13 38 137 25 47 6 1 .350 .484 .290

 

Is that really that much of an upgrade. Added in the fact Burnitz was there every day. He just came to the ballpark to play and that's the best part of him in my book. If you look into Milton's numbers they are very inconsistent. With the projected lineup of Neifi/Cedeno or Walker up the middle, Murton in left, Pierre in Center, I want a stud for right. No mediocre RF. That list is short and everyone knows the wishlist so I just hope and pray Hendry pulls one out of the hat and lands us a stud. Say no to Bradley.

 

I am stunned by this post. Where to begin.

 

If CHC can acquire him on the cheap (and I think they can) they get, as has already been pointed out, a younger player than Burnitz and he can play CF when Pierre needs time off relieving us having to watch Jerry Hairston flounder around in CF (and if you like "good route running" look away with Hairston). It would also really help shore up the line-up.

 

Is there a big difference? Well, let's look at it this way (we'll ignore BA because that is included in OBP--but it favors Bradley anyway so this isn't going to be me cherry-picking stats): .028 difference in OBP and .49 difference in SLG is HUGE! Let's say that they both get 500 ABs. That results in 14 more times on base and an additional 25 bases. Even if you want to say that Burnitz plays more games, he also makes more outs (not a good thing).

 

Put on top of that that Dodger stadium is a pitcher's park while Wrigley actually was more of a hitters park last year meaning that both numbers were skewed in opposite directions.

 

To level the playing field let's look at OPS+ (it equalizes for home fields). Bradley chimes in at 121, Burnitz at 96. Not good. For perspective a difference of 25 points would mean the difference between Neifi Perez (77) and Julio Lugo (105) and I haven't seen ANYONE post that the "drop" from Lugo to Perez would be even an issue.

 

Sorry, even if Burnitz is a better defender (and I don't know that he is) I don't think he would begin to make up for the difference in offensive output. Wilkerson is a far better comparison for Bradley than Burnitz.

Show me in my posts where I said I wanted Burnitz back. I don't. I never mentioned Hairston in Center. He was horrible but yet he was the best we had. That is why I'm excited to have Pierre on the team. That's another topic.

I specifically stated I wanted a stud for RF. We have the money, and Hendry shouldn't go after some "project" in Bradley. On the same token, no Juan Encarnacion, Jacque Jones, or any other retread that has been turned down on this board. I started a list of players to show Hendry has options depending on whose available but all of those players get on base and most have power. I think all except one or two had OBP's above .360 last year.

To be real specific, Milton Bradley probably is a good man or whatever. The media can really misguide the general public but his stats aren't good enough for me. I'm a big fan of Wilkerson and he's on the low end of what I want Hendry to get for RF. Like I keep saying, I want a stud.

[CubsWin22]

Not sure if this was posted yet...

 

Blue Jays GM. J.P. Ricciardi said he's not interested in the rumored Milton Bradley-for-Miguel Batista trade.

Bradley talks with the Cubs have also reportedly cooled, though they remain the favorites for the troubled outfielder. Dec. 9 - 3:46 pm et

Source: Toronto Sun

[NoDak]

I agree Warren, most posters on this board have huge problems with a guy who doesn't play the whole season but have a love affair with Milton Bradley.

These our Burnitz's numbers for us last year. (Note, in 04 they were significantly better)

160 605 84 156 31 2 24 87 263 57 109 5 4 .322 .435 .258

 

Bradley's 05 numbers

75 283 49 82 14 1 13 38 137 25 47 6 1 .350 .484 .290

 

Is that really that much of an upgrade. Added in the fact Burnitz was there every day. He just came to the ballpark to play and that's the best part of him in my book. If you look into Milton's numbers they are very inconsistent. With the projected lineup of Neifi/Cedeno or Walker up the middle, Murton in left, Pierre in Center, I want a stud for right. No mediocre RF. That list is short and everyone knows the wishlist so I just hope and pray Hendry pulls one out of the hat and lands us a stud. Say no to Bradley.

 

I am stunned by this post. Where to begin.

 

If CHC can acquire him on the cheap (and I think they can) they get, as has already been pointed out, a younger player than Burnitz and he can play CF when Pierre needs time off relieving us having to watch Jerry Hairston flounder around in CF (and if you like "good route running" look away with Hairston). It would also really help shore up the line-up.

 

Is there a big difference? Well, let's look at it this way (we'll ignore BA because that is included in OBP--but it favors Bradley anyway so this isn't going to be me cherry-picking stats): .028 difference in OBP and .49 difference in SLG is HUGE! Let's say that they both get 500 ABs. That results in 14 more times on base and an additional 25 bases. Even if you want to say that Burnitz plays more games, he also makes more outs (not a good thing).

 

Put on top of that that Dodger stadium is a pitcher's park while Wrigley actually was more of a hitters park last year meaning that both numbers were skewed in opposite directions.

 

To level the playing field let's look at OPS+ (it equalizes for home fields). Bradley chimes in at 121, Burnitz at 96. Not good. For perspective a difference of 25 points would mean the difference between Neifi Perez (77) and Julio Lugo (105) and I haven't seen ANYONE post that the "drop" from Lugo to Perez would be even an issue.

 

Sorry, even if Burnitz is a better defender (and I don't know that he is) I don't think he would begin to make up for the difference in offensive output. Wilkerson is a far better comparison for Bradley than Burnitz.

Show me in my posts where I said I wanted Burnitz back. I don't. I never mentioned Hairston in Center. He was horrible but yet he was the best we had. That is why I'm excited to have Pierre on the team. That's another topic.

I specifically stated I wanted a stud for RF. We have the money, and Hendry shouldn't go after some "project" in Bradley. On the same token, no Juan Encarnacion, Jacque Jones, or any other retread that has been turned down on this board. I started a list of players to show Hendry has options depending on whose available but all of those players get on base and most have power. I think all except one or two had OBP's above .360 last year.

To be real specific, Milton Bradley probably is a good man or whatever. The media can really misguide the general public but his stats aren't good enough for me. I'm a big fan of Wilkerson and he's on the low end of what I want Hendry to get for RF. Like I keep saying, I want a stud.

 

OK, let's start where we agree. I read over your list of good/great OF. Any ideas how to get any of them here?

 

At no point did I say that you did want Burnitz back. I was responding to two of your posts. One of them DID say that Bradley was "not really much of an upgrade." That can be seen in the first post in the "quote" portion.

 

As for bringing up Hairston, that I did do. My point was that if Pierre gets hurt we don't have a CF (assuming that CPat is gone--increasingly likely) other than Hairston. And if we don't acquire Bradley we will have Hairston in CF.

 

It's better but first off to defend Burny, he played sound fundamental baseball (hitting the cutoff, taking good routes, etc.).

 

This is from one of your earlier posts in this very thread. It is convoluted, I admit, but that was what I was responding to.

[SAMMYWHO]

I agree Warren, most posters on this board have huge problems with a guy who doesn't play the whole season but have a love affair with Milton Bradley.

These our Burnitz's numbers for us last year. (Note, in 04 they were significantly better)

160 605 84 156 31 2 24 87 263 57 109 5 4 .322 .435 .258

 

Bradley's 05 numbers

75 283 49 82 14 1 13 38 137 25 47 6 1 .350 .484 .290

 

Is that really that much of an upgrade. Added in the fact Burnitz was there every day. He just came to the ballpark to play and that's the best part of him in my book. If you look into Milton's numbers they are very inconsistent. With the projected lineup of Neifi/Cedeno or Walker up the middle, Murton in left, Pierre in Center, I want a stud for right. No mediocre RF. That list is short and everyone knows the wishlist so I just hope and pray Hendry pulls one out of the hat and lands us a stud. Say no to Bradley.

 

I am stunned by this post. Where to begin.

 

If CHC can acquire him on the cheap (and I think they can) they get, as has already been pointed out, a younger player than Burnitz and he can play CF when Pierre needs time off relieving us having to watch Jerry Hairston flounder around in CF (and if you like "good route running" look away with Hairston). It would also really help shore up the line-up.

 

Is there a big difference? Well, let's look at it this way (we'll ignore BA because that is included in OBP--but it favors Bradley anyway so this isn't going to be me cherry-picking stats): .028 difference in OBP and .49 difference in SLG is HUGE! Let's say that they both get 500 ABs. That results in 14 more times on base and an additional 25 bases. Even if you want to say that Burnitz plays more games, he also makes more outs (not a good thing).

 

Put on top of that that Dodger stadium is a pitcher's park while Wrigley actually was more of a hitters park last year meaning that both numbers were skewed in opposite directions.

 

To level the playing field let's look at OPS+ (it equalizes for home fields). Bradley chimes in at 121, Burnitz at 96. Not good. For perspective a difference of 25 points would mean the difference between Neifi Perez (77) and Julio Lugo (105) and I haven't seen ANYONE post that the "drop" from Lugo to Perez would be even an issue.

 

Sorry, even if Burnitz is a better defender (and I don't know that he is) I don't think he would begin to make up for the difference in offensive output. Wilkerson is a far better comparison for Bradley than Burnitz.

Show me in my posts where I said I wanted Burnitz back. I don't. I never mentioned Hairston in Center. He was horrible but yet he was the best we had. That is why I'm excited to have Pierre on the team. That's another topic.

I specifically stated I wanted a stud for RF. We have the money, and Hendry shouldn't go after some "project" in Bradley. On the same token, no Juan Encarnacion, Jacque Jones, or any other retread that has been turned down on this board. I started a list of players to show Hendry has options depending on whose available but all of those players get on base and most have power. I think all except one or two had OBP's above .360 last year.

To be real specific, Milton Bradley probably is a good man or whatever. The media can really misguide the general public but his stats aren't good enough for me. I'm a big fan of Wilkerson and he's on the low end of what I want Hendry to get for RF. Like I keep saying, I want a stud.

 

OK, let's start where we agree. I read over your list of good/great OF. Any ideas how to get any of them here?

 

At no point did I say that you did want Burnitz back. I was responding to two of your posts. One of them DID say that Bradley was "not really much of an upgrade." That can be seen in the first post in the "quote" portion.

 

As for bringing up Hairston, that I did do. My point was that if Pierre gets hurt we don't have a CF (assuming that CPat is gone--increasingly likely) other than Hairston. And if we don't acquire Bradley we will have Hairston in CF.

 

It's better but first off to defend Burny, he played sound fundamental baseball (hitting the cutoff, taking good routes, etc.).

 

This is from one of your earlier posts in this very thread. It is convoluted, I admit, but that was what I was responding to.

 

My statement about Burny was vague because I didn't mean for anyone to think I wanted him back. I just want a bigger upgrade over Bradley. As far as my list of capable outfielders that was to prove Hendry has all kinds of options for RF, so with the pressure of his contract year or the White Sox championship or whatever the excuse to why we need to win now, I have hope he'll get someone that will fit the teams needs.

The last thing I'm going to say about Bradley is I read that Todd Walker wasn't good enough to get him so if it were me, I'd keep Todd and move on. I wouldn't be against Welly or some other bulk arm, out of options, AAAA pitcher for Bradley though. Todd at second and almost anyone Hendry wants for RF is better than Bradley in RF and Neifi at 2nd. :P

[abuck1220]

Blue Jays GM. J.P. Ricciardi said he's not interested in the rumored Milton Bradley-for-Miguel Batista trade.

Bradley talks with the Cubs have also reportedly cooled, though they remain the favorites for the troubled outfielder. Dec. 9 - 3:46 pm et

[jjgman21]

I posted this in the Trot Nixon thread, thought I would move it here.

 

alot is being made of Bradley's injury history. has anyone looked into the types of injuries he has suffered?

 

his low game and AB totals in 2001 is due to splitting time in the outfield, not injury, and before last year his missed time was due to multiple short stints on the DL.

 

are these hammies and twisted ankles or does he have one injury over and over?

 

thought I would answer my own question

 

May 2-June 4, 2002 - ball ricocheted off the outfield wall when trying to make a catch, breaking a his orbital bone

 

August 12-August 30, 2002 - appendicitis

 

April 23-May 8, 2003 - high ankle sprain diving for a ball. probably could have played through it if given a few days off, but put on the DL because it was April.

 

August 10-October 3, 2003 - tweaked back on a swing

 

May 30-July 15 - torn ligament in his finger on a swing

 

August 10, 2005-now - blew out knee similar to the way Patterson did.

 

the 2002 injuries can basically be ignored. chalk it up to flukes. teh blown knee is a fluke too, and an easy injur to overcome these days. two injuries, the back tweak and the finger are strange swinging injuries. that is a bit of concern, but we are not talking JD Drew here. while a couple of Drew's injuries were flukes, he is pretty much a glass tiger.

 

another thought on Milton, alot of people like to make the obvious comparison to Carl Everett. the comparison should be brought further than just temper. they have very similar career curves. a minor prediction that over the next three years, Bradley will match what Everett did his years in Houston and the first year in Boston. boy would I like the Cubs right fielder to have the numbers Everett put up at the same age Bradley is now.

[jjgman21]

Blue Jays GM. J.P. Ricciardi said he's not interested in the rumored Milton Bradley-for-Miguel Batista trade.

Bradley talks with the Cubs have also reportedly cooled, though they remain the favorites for the troubled outfielder. Dec. 9 - 3:46 pm et

 

source on this?

 

this is very good news for Bradley advocates. the Blue Jays turned down a player of Bradley's caliber to keep a pitcher that is less than average in every role he has played.

 

 

I don't do this often, but..

Maddux have a no trade? will he waive it to go to LA?

 

Maddux for Bradley, use Maddux's money to find a pitcher. either sign the best of the current crop (Millwood) or, to cut down the prospect cost, who's looking to dump a good, expensive pitcher at the end of his contract?