More Impressive (ESPN POLL)

[adamb0719]

I saw this on ESPN and thought I would post it to see what the opinion is here.

 

I begrudgingly would have to say the Colts going undefeated would be more impressive.

[Andy]

Tough call. I'd give the edge to the Colts just because the media jumps all over any team that starts 8-0 or better, adding more pressure. The Colts also don't have the luxury of recruiting all the best college players just to be backups for them. (No I'm not bitter.)

[Mike Aller]

I'll go with the Colts just because the colts don't have nearly as many 'gimme' games as the Trojans do. Look at it this way: Take the worst team that the Colts face and the worst team that USC faces. Which would be a bigger upset loss? Obviously the Trojan's loss. Any NFL team can beat any other NFL team on any given week. It's not likely, but it's not like we'd be "blown out of the water-surprised" either.

[mhuber92211]

I'd have to go with the Colts cause they would have to beat the Seahawks which I don't think that they can.

[ConstableRabbit]

Colts.

 

EVERY TEAM in the NFL can beat any other team.

 

College is not the same way.

[Andy]

I'd have to go with the Colts cause they would have to beat the Seahawks which I don't think that they can.

I think that if SF can come within two of the Seahawks, then the Colts can certainly beat Seattle.

[Careless]

nfl=parity. Look at the bears, from worst to first in a year with few changes. there isn't 2-9 team in college you could stick a couple new linemen on and have them go undefeated

[ConstableRabbit]

nfl=parity. Look at the bears, from worst to first in a year with few changes. there isn't 2-9 team in college you could stick a couple new linemen on and have them go undefeated

 

It was more than "a few changes".

 

It was a new coach, new personel, and no injuries.

 

When you're a top collegiate program, you tend to recruit the top high school players. And of course, some of those wins were against bad programs who could only get bad hs players.

 

USC is awesome, no doubt. 35-0 is also REALLY impressive, but you have to factor in the garbage teams they beat over that stretch:

Washington, Washington St., Colorado St., Hawaii, Arkansas, ND (when they sucked), BYU (which hasn't been great lately), even Stanford.

 

That's about 15 games right there.

 

In pro sports, some teams are better than others, but no team is "garbage". Even the league's best team does not post stats THAT much better than the league averages. In college sports, it's not the same.

[Careless]

nfl=parity. Look at the bears, from worst to first in a year with few changes. there isn't 2-9 team in college you could stick a couple new linemen on and have them go undefeated

 

It was more than "a few changes".

 

It was a new coach, new personel, and no injuries.

 

When you're a top collegiate program, you tend to recruit the top high school players. And of course, some of those wins were against bad programs who could only get bad hs players.

 

USC is awesome, no doubt. 35-0 is also REALLY impressive, but you have to factor in the garbage teams they beat over that stretch:

Washington, Washington St., Colorado St., Hawaii, Arkansas, ND (when they sucked), BYU (which hasn't been great lately), even Stanford.

 

That's about 15 games right there.

 

In pro sports, some teams are better than others, but no team is "garbage". Even the league's best team does not post stats THAT much better than the league averages. In college sports, it's not the same.

It wasn't clear that i was arguing for the colts?

[ConstableRabbit]

nfl=parity. Look at the bears, from worst to first in a year with few changes. there isn't 2-9 team in college you could stick a couple new linemen on and have them go undefeated

 

It was more than "a few changes".

 

It was a new coach, new personel, and no injuries.

 

When you're a top collegiate program, you tend to recruit the top high school players. And of course, some of those wins were against bad programs who could only get bad hs players.

 

USC is awesome, no doubt. 35-0 is also REALLY impressive, but you have to factor in the garbage teams they beat over that stretch:

Washington, Washington St., Colorado St., Hawaii, Arkansas, ND (when they sucked), BYU (which hasn't been great lately), even Stanford.

 

That's about 15 games right there.

 

In pro sports, some teams are better than others, but no team is "garbage". Even the league's best team does not post stats THAT much better than the league averages. In college sports, it's not the same.

It wasn't clear that i was arguing for the colts?

 

:lol: :lol: Apparantly not.

 

Anyway, how was my argument? :lol:

[Careless]

nfl=parity. Look at the bears, from worst to first in a year with few changes. there isn't 2-9 team in college you could stick a couple new linemen on and have them go undefeated

 

It was more than "a few changes".

 

It was a new coach, new personel, and no injuries.

 

When you're a top collegiate program, you tend to recruit the top high school players. And of course, some of those wins were against bad programs who could only get bad hs players.

 

USC is awesome, no doubt. 35-0 is also REALLY impressive, but you have to factor in the garbage teams they beat over that stretch:

Washington, Washington St., Colorado St., Hawaii, Arkansas, ND (when they sucked), BYU (which hasn't been great lately), even Stanford.

 

That's about 15 games right there.

 

In pro sports, some teams are better than others, but no team is "garbage". Even the league's best team does not post stats THAT much better than the league averages. In college sports, it's not the same.

It wasn't clear that i was arguing for the colts?

 

:lol: :lol: Apparantly not.

 

Anyway, how was my argument? :lol:

Well, aside from the fact that lovie was hired in 2004...

[ConstableRabbit]

nfl=parity. Look at the bears, from worst to first in a year with few changes. there isn't 2-9 team in college you could stick a couple new linemen on and have them go undefeated

 

It was more than "a few changes".

 

It was a new coach, new personel, and no injuries.

 

When you're a top collegiate program, you tend to recruit the top high school players. And of course, some of those wins were against bad programs who could only get bad hs players.

 

USC is awesome, no doubt. 35-0 is also REALLY impressive, but you have to factor in the garbage teams they beat over that stretch:

Washington, Washington St., Colorado St., Hawaii, Arkansas, ND (when they sucked), BYU (which hasn't been great lately), even Stanford.

 

That's about 15 games right there.

 

In pro sports, some teams are better than others, but no team is "garbage". Even the league's best team does not post stats THAT much better than the league averages. In college sports, it's not the same.

It wasn't clear that i was arguing for the colts?

 

:lol: :lol: Apparantly not.

 

Anyway, how was my argument? :lol:

Well, aside from the fact that lovie was hired in 2004...

 

Oh, yes I know. But I was trying to convey the combination of new coach AND no injuries led to their success.

 

Anyway, my bad :oops:

[adamb0719]

Another thing is USC didn't have to contend with FA and salary caps. Sure they lost players, but they had someone just as good to plug into their spot.

[rawaction]

The Colts.

 

USC plays with a higher payroll. heh. that's for you Raisin.

 

Naw, it's really not close, though. As has been mentioned, the Colts have to deal with salary cap, better competition, and fair competition for prospective players. The Colts can't draft the top 5 players, USC can get the top 5 HS players if they want.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Bob Sanders, Colts I mean. The AFC is a little more competitive than the Pac 10.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

USC plays with a higher payroll. heh. that's for you Raisin.

 

:D

[dacheezwhiz]

I'll go with the Colts just because the colts don't have nearly as many 'gimme' games as the Trojans do. Look at it this way: Take the worst team that the Colts face and the worst team that USC faces. Which would be a bigger upset loss? Obviously the Trojan's loss. Any NFL team can beat any other NFL team on any given week. It's not likely, but it's not like we'd be "blown out of the water-surprised" either.

 

See Hawks vs. Spurs last night

[Mike Aller]

I'll go with the Colts just because the colts don't have nearly as many 'gimme' games as the Trojans do. Look at it this way: Take the worst team that the Colts face and the worst team that USC faces. Which would be a bigger upset loss? Obviously the Trojan's loss. Any NFL team can beat any other NFL team on any given week. It's not likely, but it's not like we'd be "blown out of the water-surprised" either.

 

See Hawks vs. Spurs last night

Yep.