Cubs, Giants Discussing Nico Hoerner Trade

Trade Hoerner and lose his marvelous running 'round 3rd and home?  Oh hell no.

Nico is from the Bay Area and perhaps wants to go there. I would first offer him an extension which he deserves. He was by far the most consistent Cub, both on offense and defense which was amazing. He has speed and few strikeouts. The package would have to be overwhelming and I don't think SF has enough. He is a Cub treasure.

20 minutes ago, Victor Reichman said:

Nico is from the Bay Area and perhaps wants to go there. I would first offer him an extension which he deserves. He was by far the most consistent Cub, both on offense and defense which was amazing. He has speed and few strikeouts. The package would have to be overwhelming and I don't think SF has enough. He is a Cub treasure.

 

I agree on all this Victor.   I don't think their hot shot AAA pitcher is the overwhelming get it would take.  At least not in my opinion and I don't think Jed's either. 

18 minutes ago, CubUgly said:

I agree on all this Victor.   I don't think their hot shot AAA pitcher is the overwhelming get it would take.  At least not in my opinion and I don't think Jed's either. 

I don’t think Nico will be traded. But, if he is, I don’t see SF as the team to get him. The only way he ends up in SF is if they are involved in some kind of 3 team deal. Giants do not have anyone the Cubs would want, IMO, for Nico. 

I really don't like some of clickbait headlines NSBB is putting out lately. Keep it on the news page if you have to do it, but the forums are sacrosanct ground. 

2 hours ago, Dfan25 said:

Just reading fans comments in other places . Giants fans think Luis Matos and Whisenhunt would get them Nico . Cubs fans are asking for Logan Webb 😂

Who is asking for Logan Webb, other than mentioning his name as the only thing the Giants could possibly offer to "overwhelm" the Cubs for Nico Hoerner. I dont think anyone is legitimately saying Hoerner is worth Webb.

3 hours ago, Jason Ross said:

Rosenthal floated a Peyton Tolle for Hoerner trade. This kind of a trade would be one I'd have to think heavily about. On one hand, it unquestionably makes the Cubs worse in 2026. Shaw might be a 3 win fWAR 2b, but it's a bit "theoretical". You could probably go find a middle infielder on a $6m deal as a backup, maybe you bring back Willi Castro or something on a 1/$8m or something, but you're a worse team on paper. 

On the other end, I think Peyton Tolle is a stud. A LHP with a 36 K% in Triple-A, big velo and has always had strong walk-against numbers. His fastball is a killer and the Cubs love this kind of arm. And you could be looking at a rotation of the future of Cabrera, Horton, Wiggins and Tolle. Essentially flipping from the "old, low velo" rotation the Cubs had as recently as 2024 to one of extreme youth and velo.

The odds of the Sox trading one of their young arms probably just went up...

1 minute ago, KCCub said:

The odds of the Sox trading one of their young arms probably just went up...

80-grade stache game. 

Make it happen, Jed.

I wonder even if the Red Sox came in with an overpay of an offer if Hoyer would even do it. Everyone talks about how Nico is from the west and probably wants to go out there to be closer to family and any big trade Hoyer has made has seemingly involved some kind of thought process into the team his player is going to.

2 minutes ago, Cuzi said:

I wonder even if the Red Sox came in with an overpay of an offer if Hoyer would even do it. Everyone talks about how Nico is from the west and probably wants to go out there to be closer to family and any big trade Hoyer has made has seemingly involved some kind of thought process into the team his player is going to.

That is interesting. But the Giants have no one of interest. 

5 minutes ago, Jason Ross said:

80-grade stache game. 

Make it happen, Jed.

One for one? Wonder if there is a way to add Duran or Abreu in the deal. Give up Alcantara or even Mo. Get a proven bat who plays right. I am still skeptical of any Nico trade, but if they did get a potential stud pitcher that is hard to pass on. 

3 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

One for one? Wonder if there is a way to add Duran or Abreu in the deal. Give up Alcantara or even Mo. Get a proven bat who plays right. I am still skeptical of any Nico trade, but if they did get a potential stud pitcher that is hard to pass on. 

I do not think there is any way to add either of those in. I'd say I think it's unlikely the Red Sox actually add Tolle in. 

4 minutes ago, Jason Ross said:

I do not think there is any way to add either of those in. I'd say I think it's unlikely the Red Sox actually add Tolle in. 

Just want to be blown away and also help this years team. Funny, it always seems like a great idea to trade a guy in his last year if you get a great deal. But then when it is actually offered it gets hard to do. Not that Tolle was actually offered. 

37 minutes ago, Cuzi said:

I wonder even if the Red Sox came in with an overpay of an offer if Hoyer would even do it. Everyone talks about how Nico is from the west and probably wants to go out there to be closer to family and any big trade Hoyer has made has seemingly involved some kind of thought process into the team his player is going to.

As a counterpoint, he just sent (Canadian) Owen Caissie to the wasteland that is the Miami Marlins. 

The Red Sox make a lot of sense for Shaw , he's from Mass. Is he enough to get Duran or Abreau?  Either one of those Gold glovers in the outfield with Armstrong & Happ would be a pitchers dream.

5 minutes ago, squally1313 said:

As a counterpoint, he just sent (Canadian) Owen Caissie to the wasteland that is the Miami Marlins. 

Yes, how could anyone from Canada see the appeal in Miami?  Certainly not in January either 

Keep Nico if he cant get you someone like Tolle. We're talking about a 5-6 war player for 12m bucks. 

59 minutes ago, Cuzi said:

Who is asking for Logan Webb, other than mentioning his name as the only thing the Giants could possibly offer to "overwhelm" the Cubs for Nico Hoerner. I dont think anyone is legitimately saying Hoerner is worth Webb.

I read a lot of comments on x and other places of people who  think Cubs should get Webb ( seriously ) . I wasn’t talking about this board 

11 minutes ago, squally1313 said:

As a counterpoint, he just sent (Canadian) Owen Caissie to the wasteland that is the Miami Marlins. 

Cassie isn’t a veteran beloved Cub. He was traded to a place he can play every day in the majors. He should be very happy. 

Bregman to wear #3, since Nico wears #2.
 

I choose to believe that this is a sign Nico isn't going anywhere.

1 hour ago, Jason Ross said:

80-grade stache game. 

Make it happen, Jed.

I hate even saying such a cheesy thing, but dude just looks like a horse feathering gamer. 

50 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

Just want to be blown away and also help this years team. Funny, it always seems like a great idea to trade a guy in his last year if you get a great deal. But then when it is actually offered it gets hard to do. 

Especially when he's one of the best players in MLB at his position and you have an opportunity to play for something meaningful NOW.

It's always funny watching both sides of trade talks -

I dont want to trade Nico but if you can get someone like Early? That would be tough to turn down.

24 minutes ago, Cubs420psd said:

I dont want to trade Nico but if you can get someone like Early? That would be tough to turn down.

I’m with you. I don’t want to trade him either. However, if the Mariners get involved they have a lot of interesting prospects.