That's some mind bendingly awful logic. I agree. I mean.....wow. :lol: Are you saying a team shouldn't get credit for beating a team ranked in the top 5 in the nation? What constitutes a top 5 win? My logic is apparently flawed so please explain. I'll explain in three sentences. ND beat No. 3 Michigan at the Big House in 2005. Michigan finished 7-5. No one did or should have considered that a top 5 win. End. The stats site that as a top 5 win. It's not really hard to understand. I agree that Wisconsin isn't a top 5 program right now, but that is what they were ranked at the time they played Illinois. The fact of the matter is, Illinois beat 2 top 5 ranked teams. Whether you think those teams should have been ranked in the top 5 is another issue all together. See here's the thing, it WAS a top-5 win. It's not anymore. Now it's a win over the No. 18 team in the BCS. Just out of curiosity, what do you consider Missouri's win over Illinois to be - a win over a team that didn't have any votes at the time the teams played or the No. 13 team in the BCS? Technically, Mizzou beat an unranked team. And right now, the Illini's win over Wisconsin still counts as a top 5 team. All the arguing in the world doesn't change that. Wisconsin a bottom of the top 25 team and after the regular season is over, you look at the whole picture not how they were ranked at the time. Just because the coaches just plug them in there after they played no one OOC is a joke. WV blew it and choked while being outplayed by Pitt. I saw the tightness when they didn't score the TD on the first drive and they went for the FG, which they missed. Now they have to play the best team in College football in a bowl game.