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Agree. He is a perfect pick up.

If you count Assad and Taillon that would be 8 different players on the team in mid August compared to now. I don’t see that either. Changing 30% of a roster on a team playing at 94 win pace.

Other teams will want players too. It just isn’t going to happen that the Cubs get 5 or 6 guys. And they don’t have to. If you think the Cubs depth sucks maybe look at other teams. Because they must have issues too, or why would the. Cubs have the second best record in baseball? Maybe Castro as a bat. That solves bench bat/3rd base and a RH outfielder. Maybe 2 starting pitchers or one starter and 1 pen arms. At most 2 starters and 1 pen arm. If they have a great deadline I can see 4 guys added.

Got it. But it was still worded as a question. Probably rightfully so. 😬Because honestly as I said in another post, I am not sure who I prefer. It depends on who the other pitcher is.!

Reading this post along with others where you expect 2 starting pitchers and 1 or 2 pen arms, I think you are going to be very disappointed at the deadline. You are basically suggesting 5 or 6 different people acquired via trade at the deadline. This team is one game from having the best record in baseball and you are suggesting they replace 20%+ of their team. I don’t think that will happen.

I agree. But the first one has to be less risky. Even if it is a MOR starter, as long as he is pretty sure to give you what is expected, Bieber would be an excellent high risk high reward guy.

Are you asking or telling us “we prefer Soroka”? I’m not sure who “we” represents, so I can’t tell you who “we” prefer. For me, if the Cubs got a low risk solid starter, and Soroka cost less than Lugo, I would prefer Soroka. But if they went high risk high reward with the other pitcher, I would prefer Lugo over Soroka.

I think if they get 2 starters they will not get 2 pen arms too. Maybe not any. With 2 starters that moves Rea or Horton to the pen. If Assad comes back and when Tailon comes back that puts Assad and whoever didn’t go to the pen after trading for 2 staters, to the pen. The rotation would have two pitchers they traded for, Imanaga, Boyd and Taillon. The pen would have Rea, Horton and Assad in it along with Theilbar, Keller, Brasier, Palencia and probably Pressley or Pomeranz. I guess if they went two rentals for the rotation they could aim high for a closer type guy like Clase or a bit lower like Iglesias. But I wouldn’t bother with a middle relief pitcher. IMO they have that covered.

I find the discussion on who the Cubs should bring in so interesting. Between rentals and controlled pitchers they can be so different. You have the high end guys who will cost a lot but pretty certain to be good (Gore and Ryan), then the guys with huge upside but fear of either an injury or they don’t get to the upside (Alcantara and Cabrera), the young guy you hope they can turn into a TOR starter (Soriano and Bradley) and then the steady MOR guy (Keller). Different people want different things. As for rentals you have differences too. Cease would be a higher end buy. Then there is Gallen who has been good for year but not so this year. The veterans who get it done without having impressive underlying numbers, like Lugo and Kelly. Morton is in a category on his own. And then there is Soroka. His actual numbers are poor, but all underlying point to a good pitcher. So which is better? Lugo, who for several years has outperformed his expected numbers and has an era around 3, or Soroka, who despite having great stuff pitches to a 5.00 era. I do think him coming to the Cubs would solve a lot of his problems, but is Lugo a safer pick to stay in the 3.00-3.30 era? I think if they go with 2 pitchers one will come from one group and the other from the other group. Maybe they go high risk in one group and then steady in the other.

I would like to see one controllable pitcher and one rental. Depending on cost and the Cubs willingness to move several higher end prospects the controlled guy could be anyone from Gore, Ryan, Alcantara, Cabrera and maybe even Keller, Bradley or Soriano.The rental can come from Soroka, Kelly, Gallen, Cease, Morton, Lugo or a list of several others that may come available as teams sell. Those moves along with Assad coming back would strengthen the rotation and the pen. Horton and Rea can go to the pen with Assad. Maybe add a bench bat like Castro and finish the season strong.

Seems there are just two types of people here. Those who overreact to the Brewers playing great the last 50 games and explaining how they are so much better than the Cubs that the Cubs have to make several moves to just compete. And then there are the ones that feel they need to disrespect the Brewers by suggesting they will fold late in the season. Why can’t the Brewers be good, but the Cubs are very good too? I said it over a month ago. When the Cubs had a 5 game lead I said I still worry about the Brewers and only the Brewers in this division. That doesn’t mean I think they are a better team. I don’t. But I do respect them and realize they are a good team who will be tough to beat.

This is also not correct. The Brewers are not better. They have a 1 game lead after being incredibly hot for a ridiculous amount of time. The Cubs will make moves, but as they are presently constructed the Brewers aren’t better than the Cubs.

Well this didn’t age well.

Which is why Horton needs to be watched closely.

I think if the Cubs do sign Tucker, Happ will be traded. I know he has a NTC, so they may have to get a list of teams he would agree to be traded to. Cassie would then get left field. If they can’t move Happ they may trade Suzuki(which, IMO, is a mistake)

Planned short outing to limit his innings and pitches.

That is his job. And I believe you are correct that he is checking in on a lot of teams.

Any chance we see Wiggins in the pen this year? This would limit his innings and also possibly really help the pen.

I saw Rea. Did that change.

Those keeping score. Turner 2-2 against a lefty. Busch 0-3. Please maybe trust CC next time he plays Turner over Busch.

He has gotten a hit in every game since the break. A homer and double among his hits. Does he have to get commented about every time he makes an out? Even the best players make way more outs than they get hits. Counting tonight 7 for his last 22. With a homer and a double in that time. Maybe not a “hit streak”, but not something to have someone bitch about every time he makes an out.

It does take 2 teams to make a trade. This idea that Jed is sitting around doing nothing gets real old. He can’t make teams trade players if they are not sure if they want to dump or not. My guess is Jed would love to make a trade soon. Doesn’t mean there is one to be made.

Exactly my hope. Get thru the 5th and let Flexen pitch 2 innings.

I would have liked to see Brasier go a second inning as well. But it seems CC doesn’t like certain pen arms throwing more than one inning. 🤷

I don’t know if he plays everyday or not. But that doesn’t matter. With the Cubs he would be a bench guy who can play the outfield. If you or anyone else believes they need that, he would be a good option. I am not really sure it is a need.