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The problem is now that he got this, what does Yates or Robertson or any other guy the Cubs see as a back end guy go for?
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Seems to be way more than I would have thought he would get.
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I am sure they are where they are in payroll, by design of the owner.
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I agree it is a lot like Chicago. Not sure what you mean by lesser version, however.
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But when you do this you are ending up posting things 2 hours after we are already discussing it. I think that is what some are trying to tell you. Your post are not breaking news. They are old news. I don’t particularly care one way or the other. Just telling you why it is being mentioned to you.
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Yep, that was what I was trying to say earlier. Just put a wrong number in. No idea why they can’t go to $233M or so and will be fine being around $220M. As it is, the LT line being the marker is insulting as it is to the Cubs fans. Now being this far below when they could have added maybe $10M to $15M to sign or trade for a starter better than Rea is very frustrating.
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Maybe Suarez? Seems Cease is not an option, since the Cubs said they are looking for pen and bench. Suarez for Assad and a prospect on the 40 man? Besides having to get guys in the 40 man roster, they want to do it without spending money. So it will have to be higher paid players traded for a couple of 40 man guys.
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Doesn’t look like the Cubs plan some surprise at the convention. Guess they are going with the big news being Sammy is back, Tucker is here for 1 year and, or course, new alternate uniforms!!! They sure do know how to excite the people who go to that thing.
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If we are going to criticize the Cubs for trading a guy they signed in the 10th round a year before don’t we also have to give them credit for drafting a guy like him in round 10? Honestly he still has a long way to go. And Dodger prospects always get ranked better than they should. Bush was a good get. If either Ferris or Hope become solid players that is just the way it is. I am happy with Nusch.!
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You’re right. My bad. I meant to say $35M. They have that much that they can spend and still be comfortably under the LT. Spending $25M would be cutting payroll more than I thought they would. I fixed my original post now. But your response is correct as it pertains to my original post.
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So it looks like it would be hard for them to spend $35M for a pen arm and 2 bench bats. So definitely well under the LT line and definitely on orders from ownership to cut payroll, not just make sure they are under the LT. Which actually sucks if that is the case. It is the difference between signing Rea or trading for Lopez, Cease, or even Montgomery with Az taking on a portion of his salary. Basically ownership saying they don’t care about having a good staff, they want to save money.
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I think the only way they consider Montgomery is if Az takes on some of his salary. So he wouldn’t be $23M. Maybe $16m or so. At $16M if they can still add Yates and a decent bench bat, I would consider him. He also can’t cost much in the way of a prospect. The trade would have to be a payroll dump. Then I wouldn’t mind him. He would cost the Cubs less than Lopez or Castillo in a trade, and for 1 year I would take him at $16M with Yates and a good bench bat over Flaherty for $24M and Paul Seward and a lesser bench bat. I do think he can absolutely be as good as Castillo or Flaherty next years.
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International Free Agency Thread, 1/15/2025 Class
Rcal10 replied to CaliforniaRaisin's topic in Cubs Minor League Talk
Yes, 2.3 and 1.5 is 3.8, not 3.5. Good you teach history. 😬😀 Just kidding!!!! -
International Free Agency Thread, 1/15/2025 Class
Rcal10 replied to CaliforniaRaisin's topic in Cubs Minor League Talk
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Same scenerio but a little less money. Honestly, I would rather use that IFA money to get a guy now. So instead of Cassie in a trade you trade the IFA money. Cubs keep all their prospects, get their main 2 guys in the IFA market and get an asset for the team this year. Assad, IFA money and whatever else is needed for Cease, as an example. SD gets Sasaki. Then if Cease walks in one year, fans aeenr complain about losing Cassie. If they lose out on a 16 year old and he does become a star, there is no guarantee he would have been a star if he stayed with the Cubs. Can’t worry about that result. IMO a team in a position to win should be considering moving the IFA money for an asset now, not a prospect. Or at the very least,, it is another consideration.
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Looks to be $3.8M so they have around $2.4M to &2.5M left. But they can still probably do something with that money if the right deal came along.
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Ok, so they still have over $2M left. So, different angle, if $3M gets the 9th best prospect in baseball, what does $2.2M get. If that IFA money is valued as something like a guy between 50-100 in the mlb prospect list, instead of trading a prospect for Cease could the Cubs trade $2.2M of IFA money, Assad and a lower level prospect to him? If you are the Padres and $2.2M allows you to get Sasaki, is that better than the Cubs offering Cassie+ the same guys as you offer with the $2.2M? I would say in that scenerio the $2.2 is more valuable. Regardless of what it would take to get Cease, my question is “is $2.2M more valuable than a guy like Cassie”? In this case, it appears to be.
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Would the money they lose be next year? I mean conceivably they would have already spend this years money by now. Doesn’t really matter, I doubt they get Bregman.
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It’s a dangerous game to play. There are a few other teams involved in the waiting too. So suppose the Dodgers make a deal with another one of those other teams. Now then Jays and the Padres have funds to spend. They can poach a Cubs prospect who is probably already not very happy with the Cubs for making him wait. And even if he is ok waiting, maybe the other offer is better. Cubs don’t get Sasaki, a top prospect from the Dodgers for some IFA money and also don’t get all the IFA they are expecting to get. Obviously this is the worst case scenario, but it very well could happen. Especially if this isn’t done in the next day or two.
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It could also be teams that are in the Sasaki sweepstakes need more IFA money. Maybe the Cubs have discussed Cease with the Padres. Could be a part of the trade would be giving them some IFA money. Same with Toronto. Don’t they want to shed salary. If they are getting Sasaki, might Berrios be available? Again, maybe IFA added to whatever the Cubs might have to trade gets the deal done. Maybe with the Dodgers wantIFA money traded for one of their young pitchers who won’t be in the rotation once Sasaki signs with them. So many things it can be. But one thing I do believe is this is very unusual and because of that there is something going on. Might not have anything develop, but teams are waiting for a reason.
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I know they aren’t signing him. But TBH, I was surprised at how balanced his numbers actually were. I just assumed he was much better in Houston. As I said, IMO, they have a better chance of extending Tucker then they do trading for Bregman. And the extension, now, is not very likely either.
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Cubs Meeting With Japanese Ace Roki Sasaki
Rcal10 replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
I am not upset with management not extending those guys. Yes, that did work out well. I think the bigger issue is they has starts in their peak, and they were still good thru 19’, and did not add to them. The added fringe players or “value players” always looking to save a buck rather than give the team another quality player. That is what bothers me about management. They has young stars and decided to nickel and dime the rest of the team. -
I wouldn’t br opposed to Pivetta, but I wouldn’t want a 1 year deal while giving up the draft picks. If the Cubs considered him I would rather see something like the Tailon deal or even the Stroman deal with the Yankees. If they are going to lose picks and IFA money I want someone for 3 or more years.
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Again, his career slugging is better on the road than at home. I am talking slugging now, not homers. He has a higher slug for his career on the road. Slightly higher average too. He is actually pretty even. Last year he played better at home. But in 23’ he was a lot better in the road. Overall even. You can cherry pick numbers all you want. His actual career numbers say otherwise. They aren’t getting him anyway. But he will be a good player for someone, just not the Cubs IMO.
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I actually think there is a better chance at a Tucker extension that the Cubs signing either Bregman or Pivetta. For those who know how contracts are calculated for tax purposes how would something like this go: Tucker gets a 12 year deal starting now. Year 1 at $18M, year 2,3,4 $46M and years 5-12 at $33M. He gets an opt out after 4 years. That would be a total of $412M over 12 years. Average of $34.25 annual. Without discussing my actual numbers because I know some will say too low or too high, does this do the following: LT number for the Cubs for 12 yrs: $34.25 Tucker 4 years at $156 ($39M Annual) Allows him to opt out at 31. He would have to beat 8/$256 at that time. If he is a star he can do that. If it does all of this, what is the downside for the Cubs organization? Even if he leaves the Cubs wont be paying someone until he is 40. If he stays, he is being paid like a star and what he will get on the open market. The only downside I see is to ownership having to pay him $46M annual for years 2 thru 4. Or is this not how it works? I know they can also work with deferred money too, but that really gets over my pay grade. I am just asking about straight 12 year deal with an opt out. Does this work as I suggested or am I wrong.
