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I said that too. But 1908 pointed out the Astros are even more long term contract adverse than the Cubs. There is a belief Tucker gets traded regardless of what happens with Bregman. And historically the Astros have kept guys and lost them to FA. Apparently they don’t want to do that again with Tucker, regardless of what happens with Bregman.
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This is also true. I think people are giving the Yankees too much credit here anyway. Who are they trading that can match Parades/Smith/Asaad? And do the Astros want to make the Yankees better? I don’t see Dominguez mentioned in a trade. I have seen Gill. Ok, that is one guy. What else?
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Who are the Cubs top 3 that they won’t trade? I am curious because if/when the trade happens I want to see if any of the Cubs top 3 are in it. To me the issue is if the Astros really want Parades and Suzuki. That is what I think Jed wants no part of. I think he would give any one prospect and Parades for him. And when/if the trade happens they will not have a guarantee he will extend.
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That ask for Tucker is too high. I want him, but if the Astros want that much and demand it, Cubs walk away. Most I would go for the Cubs is 2 of Parades/Shaw/Smith/Alcantara plus a lesser prospect or someone like Assad or Wesneski. No in Suzuki.
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Might be Bregman. All he cost the Yankees is money.
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Is am not suggesting they bring them all back, but from July to the end of the season the Cubs were 44-33. That was basically around the time they had all the players they can’t bring back in the every day line up. That record over the entire year peojectd to over 90 wins. I do think they can bring all those guys back, improve the rotation, the pen and the bench and win. Again, not saying j want to do that. I want Tucker. But if they did come back this would still be a good team. They don’t even need different results then what they had playing together. Just keep playing .571 ball. 92-70 would be good.
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I don’t think it is followed directly by a signing. But I do think the Cubs would not do this deal strictly for one year, knowing they have no intention of signing him long term.
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That confirms it. Rogers is an idiot. Even if that does eventually happen there is no way the Cubs are trading for Tucker knowing they have no intention of signing him long term.
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Yes. I have said this many times. The only advantage they get is they are a large market so they can and should spend big. When they don’t they are choosing not to take advantage of the one advantage they have.
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I predicted Hoby the day he was dfa.
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But will the Astros???!
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I make that deal all day long.
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Thank you for a complete run down. Works for me. But if Bregman doesn’t go back to the Astros they now have money to spend. Maybe they don’t deal Tucker. At one point I thought the theory was Houston would keep either Tucker or Bregman. Doesn’t losing Bregman make Houston slightly more likely to keep Tucker?
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I get that means Bellinger to the Yankees. But Bellinger could play 1st base. Why would that make them out on Tucker? Why would that be a good sign of a Cubs trade to Houston?
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Help me connect the dots here? Why? Bellinger to the Yankees as well as Bregman?
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Love to have Tucker and want so much for Jed to finally hook the big fish. But not for what the Astros are asking. I think he needs to walk away and go back to looking into Bellinger+ for a pitcher and then maybe a prospect or two for Lowe. Puts Suzuki back in right field with no everyday DH. Not super exciting but still a solid team. Can’t make a team be real able. If the Astros are not reasonable they have to walk away.
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Any chance Valdez is in the deal too. Smith, Suzuki and Parades, maybe Wicks too, for Tucker and Valdez. Because that ask is crazy for just Tucker. Wouldn’t do it if they added Pressley even. Might with Valdez added.
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Yep, that is a pass for me. Parades, Alcantara and maybe Wicks is about as much as I would give up. If they want Smith instead of either Parades or Alcantara that works too. Not parting with Suzuki.
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ABSOLUTELY!!! Just get it done!
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I am way more concerned about losing out on Tucker than I am Kelly. I just have a bad feeling Jed isn’t going to get this one over the line. I feel like if Bregman goes to the Yankees then the Astros have enough money to sign Tucker. Besides that, the Bellinger interest fades. If he does sign with the Astros, the Yankees have motivation to trade for Tucker. And probably become a better fit with a better pitcher headlining the deal. Besides that, now Parades is not as desirable to the Astros. I just don’t like Jed’s chances here. And if this falls flat I am not sure what else they can do.
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Simpliest explanarion aways the best. Just waiting to announce Kelly.
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So if he signs with the Astros they then trade Tucker. But the Yankees are still an option because they lost out on Bregman. And now Parades becomes less of an option for the Astros. But if he signs with the Yankees, Bellinger is no longer an option for the Yankees and probably not Tucker either. But the Astros then have money to sign Tucker. Parades becomes more saught after(due to the Astros needing a 3rd baseman) but Astros now have money to keep Tucker. If he goes anywhere else it comes down to which deal do the Astros like better, Cubs or Yankee. WOW, what a crazy scenario. Somehow I fear the Cubs are on the outside looking in at this when the smoke clears.
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Easy choice for me. Keep Shaw and trade Smith. Shaw is closer and they need someone this year. I do acknowledge this opinion could come back to bite me. .
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Are or aren’t? I do think the Yankees are also talking to the Cubs about Bellinger. At least, according to reports they are. There are several scenarios in place. My fear is the Cubs end up with nothing.
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The last thing I saw seemed to suggest the cubs were balking at paying down some of Bellinger’s contract in a trade to the Yankees. That better not be the reason it doesn’t happen. Pay some down, giving them more money to go after Bregman, therefore, Parades becomes more valuable to the Astros. Even if they paid $10M of Bellinger salary, replacing him with Tucker and his contract would be close to even. So they would still have $30M for a pitcher, catcher and a 3rd baseman/bench bat. I guess Shaw could possibly start at 3rd. Maybe they even get that pitcher in the Yankees trade. Whatever the case, Cubs need a win here. They need to get Tucker.
