Rcal10
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You think they might sign 2 more middle relief pitchers for more than $5M each, for the opening day roster? How many pitchers do you think they are going to have in the pen? I agree they can spend up to $20M. Actually, I would be surprised they spent that much. But if they did, unless they work out a trade with the Padres, I don’t see them adding a starting pitcher. The only pen arm I would hope they get would be Robertson. I know Chafin is out there too, and they can use a lefty, but he is not exactly a lefty specialist. I guess Raley is an option who might help after the ASB. But I am not counting him for opening day. I can see one pen arm and one bat.(unless they make a trade)
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I think the kids would be brought up in the event of an injury or a longer term stay at a position. I would still rather have a Moncada, Canha, Grichik or Polanco on the bench. And if there is an injury then you bring a kid up. They have the money to add one and still add either another pen arm or a starting pitcher like King.
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I don’t have much of an issue trading for King. But including Brown and Wicks in the mix of a window expanding to later years, might not come to pass. Those guys might be in the trade.
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I disagree, but I am fine agreeing to disagree.
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That may be the way you see it. But the Mariners have given no indication they plan on trading either Kirby or Gilbert.
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I agree with this.’
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I agree with part about the Padres asking for what they ask and not caring about what happens after the trade. I disagree that the team trading for a particular player doesn’t consider if he can be retained. That is, of course, unless their plan is to only have a guy for one year. But if the Cubs are looking long term and really want a pitcher now who they also hope to keep after this season, I would think they would be more aggressive with a trade for whichever they think they can sign. The buying team has to factor that in IMO. Unless, of course, if the man calling the shots is on the last year of his contract, maybe he doesn’t care……
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Delete. Double post
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I realize the current team couldn’t care less about if the team he is traded to can sign him long term. But I have to believe that’s a consideration for the team trying to get one of those players. If a team values them equally I would think they would go a little harder on King than Cease if they felt his agent would be easier to deal with than Boras. That is, or course, if retaining either is even something the team trading for one of them is something they want to do. In the case of the Cubs, I would hope they would traded or one of them either the intent on!extending whoever they traded for.
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Since Cease cost more and probably is less likely to sign an extension, would he cost less than King in a trade? Or do you suppose asking price is similar?
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Yep. If they did pull off a trade for King and Suarez I would say they are exactly what they said they wanted to be, a team who projects to a 90 win season. Maybe even a #2 team in the NL.
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So you are saying Wicks, Assad and Cassie for King and Suarez? That does weaken the pitching depth a bit, after 2025. But it certainly would make the Cubs very formidable.
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Yes they do. He would have been a much better choice than Rea.
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Exactly. And I dont necessarily agree with that logic either. But I doubt the Cubs signed Rea to be a swing man, so Assad can be in the rotation. And TBH, I like Wicks more than Assad, if they aren’t going with Rea. I just think he signed to be the #5 guy. And with Assad and Wicks having options I expect them to start at AAA.
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I am completely on board with a trade for a #2 or #3 starter. I just don’t think they will do that. I understand Robertson too, and wouldn’t be opposed to him. But they have a lot of guys in that one. At lease one good bench bat would be nice. But if I really thought they wouks trade for a guy to slot ahead of Tailon that would be what I would spend the money on.
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I think if the Cubs have $16M or so left I would rather see it spent in the bench. Maybe Cahna, J. Turner or Grichik for a right handed bat and Moncada for a left handed bat. I think they have enough options in the pen to have a good bullpen. I count 7 pen spots filled without including Brown, Wicks or Assad, who I think will all be pitching at AAA. Maybe if Brown has an impressive spring he takes the 8th spot. I would do consider that a good off season. Could have been better by investing more in a pitcher other than Rea, but still, good. Even spending $16M gives them a cushion to add at the trade deadline.
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I think he will be in AAA to start the season. Starting. And this is especially so if they add another pen arm. Right now they have: Pressley, Pearson, Thielbar, Morgan, Miller, Merryweather and Hodge in the pen. That is 7 guys. If they signed another arm the pen is full. And that doesn’t count Brown, Wicks, Assad, Thompson and Poteet. There are several others as well. I just think anyone with options will start at AAA. Ideally that last spot would be another lefty, but Chafin, as you mentioned earlier, is a reverse split guy.
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I would bet Rea is #5 over Assad.
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You might be right in Brown and Horton. But I am talking about filling in for maybe 5 to 8 starts. I was answering JD94 when he suggested Birdsell. I assumed he was talking about filling in. I think between the 5 guys they have in the rotation, + Assad and Wicks, guys like Brown and Horton will only be needed 5 to 8 starts. I am not sure the Cubs closed the door on Brown starting, but I do agree it is probably not likely that he does, full time. (at least for now)
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I disagree. I think a solid bench bat is actually more important than another pen arm. Love to have some to fill in for Busch or PCA against a roigh lefty. Or a solid bat to pinch him. Dumpster diving is not the way to go, IMO.
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Why not Brown and Horton helping as MOR starters?
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I feel the idea of a mid rotation arm has passed. I would have liked that, but I think Rea is the last rotation arm they are signing. I wish they went mid rotation arm before signing Rea.
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That would make for a solid off season. Would love Turner, but I think he will end up somewhere where he can get more AB. So Canha is fine. As for the pen, I would take either of those guys with an edge to a Robertson. And I agree, they should have enough money for both.
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With Presley costing $8.5M shouldn’t the Cubs still have enough money for Robertson and a good bench bat? I don’t feel they are even close to $230M. And even at that amount it leaves them plenty of money deadline deals.
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