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Hopefully the next move is for a guy who is already good and doesn’t need to be fixed. This move is not inspiring at all.
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You have been saying the same thing since before the Tucker trade. We got it. You don’t think they will do anything. I guess Tucker messed up your off season prediction.
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We’ll this move should give him enough money to go after whatever else he wants, regardless of costs. Yates for $15M and a trade for Lopez and they should still be fine.
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Well it doesn’t appear they are going to spend too much money on a lefty pen arm. Not sure they cost of this signing, but can’t be much.
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I think the point is the payroll was higher those years after 2016 due to the commitments made prior to that year. Not much was brought in after that, with the exception of Darvish. And he replaced Arrieta. Guys like Davis and Morrow were acquired because the Cubs didn’t want to go long term with an elite closer. Soler was traded for one year of Davis. Morrow was a long shot closer signing. Even Kimbrel was only signed after Zobrist has some unpaid leave during the first half year the Cubs had Kimbrel. Quintana was traded for because of his inexpensive contract. Pretty much and move after 16’ to add salary had to be offset with a move to reduce payroll. And all moves had one eye on the payroll. They may have been a higher payroll team, but they watched every dollar they spent and never aimed for top guys after 2016.
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I agree with this. Rojas would be a fine bench player. But does that mean they also have to get a right handed bat to cover for Busch? That is my only issue with signing Rojas. They would have to add another bat. I just don’t think they will sign 2 and use $10M-$15M to add to the bench.
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I agree he is a fine player. But he doesn’t solve the problem of a right handed bat to play 1st when giving Busch a day off against a rough lefty. If they sign him do they then add another bench bat? And if they did, does that guy also play the outfield and take Canario’s spot or is he the utility infielder? I just don’t see them putting $12-$15M into bench bats when they only have $40M to spend. I would rather they get 2 pen arms and a starting pitcher with most of that money and spend maybe $5M to $8M on one bench bat.
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Pretty much my thoughts as well. Sign one bat that plays 1st and 3rd. I would think that bat should be right handed, or a switch hitter to give Busch a day off.
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What is not much to you? Rojas had a WAR of 2 last season. Is $6M too much? Honestly, who do you expect them to get that you wouldn’t say he sucks and at what cost do you belief they should spend? Rojas might be the best of the bunch and you said he sucks. My only issue with him is if they did get him I would imagine they would also then want to get a right handed bat who can cover first. Which means spending more money to fill the bench. Which means less for the pitchers. And I am not a fan of that.
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Bruján, Cowles, Workman or even Vasquez would be a utility player who would fill in at second. But who fills in at 1st to give Busch a day off when a tough lefty pitches? If Rojas is the bench bat, and also left handed who covers first? I agree they need someone for 2nd base. But during the year who covers first? Again, the 4th guy (utility IF would cover second if they needed him to. But who plays first? I would rather the bench at be right handed so he covers 1st and 3rd.
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I don’t think they will commit long term to a pen arm. They might spend a good amount on a guy like Yates, but for only 1 year. However, if they did sign Scott and did extend Tucker they can always trade someone to bring down the salary. Tailon, Suzuki, & Happ are all options. Even Nico. I know Happ and Suzuki have a NTC. But they might be able to move them to a place they want to go. Or, if they did also trade for Lopez, as an example, this year, he also could be trade next year to lower the budget. Again, I doubt they do sign a pen arm to multiple years, but they can and figure out how to handle 26’ after thr 25’ year.
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I feel Kelly, Canario and a bench guy that can play 1st and 3rd would be 3 bench spots. The 4th would be a utility infielder. I don’t see them adding 2 pieces to the bench. I am not saying you are wrong. I just don’t think they will do this. I think they will spend the money they have on 2 pen arms, 1 starting pitcher and 1 bat.
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I think the guy they get for insurance if Shaw struggles should also be able to play first base and give Busch a day off from time to time. That as a criteria doesn’t match with Rojas.
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He won’t decide before 1/15 and has to sign by 1/23.
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I think the bigger issue is what you just mentioned. The hold up could be with other teams also having a shot at Sasaki. I do think the Cubs would make a deal for a pitcher with a team not in on him. If you believe they were in discussions for Crochet and Luzardo that would be proof they aren’t waiting around for Sasaki. And I do believe they were in in both those guys. But if they are talking to SD, they may have to wait. I doubt they are waiting in Sasaki if the Twins make them an offer they like to get Lopez or the Marlins give them an offer they like for Alcantara. There are probably a few more options they can be kicking around as well, that they would do before the Sasaki decision. None may come to be, but that does not mean they are waiting around.
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Yep, most fans. The ones that continue to expect the Cubs to spend money they will not spend are the exception.
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The only pitcher they could have gotten from Seattle would have even Castillo. And even then the Cubs would have to eat some of his salary. And, honestly I don’t think the Mariners were interested in Cody. Considering most fans hoped he opted out I am not sure why you think they should have gotten much more. Had he opted out and they got the Yankees pitcher for a straight cash deal giving them $5M would that have been a bad deal? Same end result as they have now. You are overvaluing Cody’s trade value if you think they should have gotten more.
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With the Marlins possibly taking some heat if they are under the payroll figure they are supposed to be over, I doubt this amounts to much. However, if BOTH Cassie and Triantos were involved I would think something else has to come back. Maybe a pen arm? Cubs include Assad. As you said, probably nothing too it.
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Same annual and he has an opt out after 2 years. So not a bad deal for him.
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That was something I had suggested a little while back. Lopez/Jax/Castro. Kind of a one stop shopping sort of thing. All that would be left would be a lefty in the pen(Minter). That would hurt a bit to make that happen. But we would have a solid starter and a great pen arm(cheap). And Castro would be a good bench add.
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He actually counts as $21M a year for LT purposes. But, yes the Cubs would have to start the deal with either someone like Wicks or Assad and add to it.
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The post you responded to says exactly why it matters. Regardless of the fact that paying $24M for a prove it year on someone probably isn’t a good idea and there is probably better use of that money, for a better pitcher, it takes money away from the rest of the moves the Cubs may want to make. Maybe you don’t like that reasoning. Frankly I think it sucks too, but ownership appears to have a line they will go to. So, simple math is if they spend $17M on him as opposed to $24M on him they have $$M more they can spend. I don’t like it either. I think it is ridiculous that the major market cubs have to operate this way. But they do. Money matters. That is why they didn’t want to give up more for Bellinger.
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Yes, and Bruce Levine seems to think the Cubs are trying to make that happen.
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I think you know who cares about what someone costs. I think you know they have this imaginary line they will not go over. We all agreed they are working with about $40M. So then following that line of thinking I would guess a reasonable person would know why it matters what a guy makes. If they have to pay $24M for him that is less they will spend elsewhere. So saving $7M means they can get a better player in another move. Of course production matters. I would much rather have a good player at $20M than an average player at $10M. And for a team like the Cubs payroll, especially at this level shouldn’t matter much. But we know it does.
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If they are $7M or so from his contract, I think Montgomery would be ok. There is a very good chance last year was just a fluke year for him. He does have a solid chance at a bounce back. So at $17M I wouldn’t mind him in the rotation. But they aren’t getting much if anything back to move him. Maybe Mervis or less.
