Rcal10
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If the Cubs don’t want to lose that much prospect capital I would like to see them go to the Dbacks and get both Kelly and Gallen. Similar to when the Cubs traded Samardzija and Hammel to the A’s. The difference is both these guys are rentals, so they shouldn’t cost a higher prospect like Russell was. Might lose Long and a lottery ticket guy, and maybe someone else🤷. Gallen has done well his last few starts. He might be good from here on out.
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I don’t think any team will pay a really high price tag for Alcantara. But I also think some are ridiculous to think he can be had cheaply(Triantos). He will cost a higher prospect than Triantos. Someone will pay more than that.
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I think if you get Alcantara they also need to get Cabrera. Then you worry about what needs to be given up. And it will be a lot. That said, I want Joe Ryan if the twins would move him. Him and Cabrera. Then don’t even worry about Suarez. They would need someone, but that someone could be Moncada for almost nothing. Just a guy who can hit league average. Urias? Castro? Or some other guy who is a FA next year for a lottery ticket. Add two starters like Cabrera and Ryan and let all else fall in line.
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I like your targets. I just have no idea on the costs.
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I think just as many thought they were giving up too much for him when they made the trade.
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Maybe not that drastic, but I do tend to agree with you. It is very hard to figure out what is needed in the way of prospects to make a trade. I will just say, IMO, if/when the Cubs do make a trade, that most here will feel it is an overpay. I think a lot of fans expect to trade 3 lbs of hamburger for 1 lb is prime steak. It doesn’t work that way. I think if everyone here likes a proposed trade, it probably is not fair for the other team.
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I realize that. But I think for Skenes it would have to be quality over quantity. I am not sure the Cubs could put together a package that would have the Pirates moving Skenes.
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That group doesn’t get the Pirates to even respond. Getting Skenes for that group is less likely than the Cubs giving that up for Alcantara. Neither would happen.
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I’m not talking about that specific example. As I said originally, the Cubs would say no. But I do think the fanbase here is undervaluing the cost of what a solid pitcher will cost. I think a lot of people will be complaining about what the Cubs give up for whoever they get.
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I agree with you and we all say the same thing. But what if that is the cost? We are all biased. We are fans. So inherently we expect to get steak for hamburger. I do think trades are going to cost us a lot more than we all think they will cost.
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I can agree with this, depending on the cost to get Suarez. They can also look to guys like Castro from the Twins to fill in for Shaw and/or improve their bench. Suarez is a big swing guy. If he is cost prohibitive a lower cost guy to be insurance for Shaw could work too.
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You are comparing Shaw to a guy who at this point, probably isn’t even available. I mean, sure, if you asked me if I would rather have Suarez in the line up this year than Shaw, of course I would take Suarez. But yiu are suggesting the Cubs are playing Shaw instead of Suarez. That isn’t the case. They don’t have Suarez to play.
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Fair
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I think Cabrera will cost someone in that Cassie, Wiggins range. They would have him 3 years after this one and he is cheap. Wouldn’t give up both of them, but I would seriously consider one and maybe even a lottery ticket too.
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I also agree. And I was not suggesting trading Cassie AND Wiggins. I am just saying there is NO untouchable prospect in the system. If a top 3 in the organization is needed to get a guy who will be here for a few years and can really help this year, I wouldn’t object. But as you and Chibear already said, not for a rental. Using last years trade of Flaherty to the Dodgers as a guide to the cost for a pitcher to start in the playoffs, the Tigers got the Dodgers 8th and 22nd ranked prospects. That would be a good spot to start when discussing Lugo, Gallen or Kelly (give or take a few spots in the Cubs rankings)
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There is not one untouchable in the minors, IMO. I am not saying I would trade all of them, but for the right deal any would be available. Not for a rental, however.
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That is kind of where I am with Cabrera. Just do it. Then figure out how to get a rental arm. Whether it is Kelly, Gallen, Lugo, Heaney or anyone who can give them innings. If they are concerned about losing the prospects, if they really want they can just use Cabrera this year and then trade him next off season.
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Agreed. Just ignore the post.
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Cabrera is going to cost more than you are suggesting. You probably could get Kelly and Suarez without trading Cassie or Wiggins. But Cabrera is going to cost. Honestly I would be fine with what Bertz suggested, but might rather have Kelly than Gallen. Castro would be fine for me.
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Cardinals (Fedde) vs Cubs (Boyd): 7/6/25, 5:10pm
Rcal10 replied to Brandon Glick's topic in Fred Hornkohl Game Thread Forum
I think the ball hit his bat. -
Cardinals (Fedde) vs Cubs (Boyd): 7/6/25, 5:10pm
Rcal10 replied to Brandon Glick's topic in Fred Hornkohl Game Thread Forum
No other cubs named. How does Busch not make the team? -
Cardinals (Mikolas) vs Cubs (Rea): 7/4/25, 1:20pm
Rcal10 replied to Brandon Glick's topic in Fred Hornkohl Game Thread Forum
Obviously I don’t want to see Tailon go down with an injury. But I do like the idea of Wicks starting against the Cardinals. They are also not good against lefties. However, before anyone starts panicking, assuming Wicks does get the start tomorrow, it could be another windy day with the wind blowing out. Going to be very hot. With that normally comes wind blowing out. -
You did and I said it wouldn’t be. I will be glad to be wrong and tell you that you were right on Monday. 🤞
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5.5 on St.l, right?
