I think we're mostly in the clear on the sticky stuff front. Nance has seen his spin rates absolutely crater, and Keegan Thompson's also taken a real hit, but everyone else is down but really not any more than the league as a whole. I am a bit nervous to see Steele back up here, because he was a spin rate monster as well, so I hope he doesn't get Nance'd. I’m confused on how what you said means the Cubs are in the clear? Nance and Thompson were 2 of the reasons the Cubs bullpen was as great as it was for 6 weeks so having their spin rates plummet means the bullpen was propped up by sticky tack pitchers. And then you say the rest of the pen is down but not more than the rest of the league. Meaning it is down since the ban started meaning sticky substances were likely contributing to their success to some degree. Unless I’m reading your comment wrong. So it goes back to my original comment. The Cubs have had the ability to cobble solid bullpens together from the scrap heap the past 3 or so years. It was one of the few things we could point at and say the Cubs were doing better than the others teams in baseball. It gave me some confidence that the FO was competent. If all of this was driven by being ahead of the curve on using sticky substances than I’m not sure how confident I am in the organization to do anything well. Now a caveat - even if the Cubs were heavy sticky tack users, that doesn’t mean it’s the sole reason why they’ve had success, and also the Cubs had no reason to believe that sticky substances would be banned so they get credit for finding a competitive advantage and embracing it. It was just the wrong one it looks like. Every team is down, and nearly every pitcher is down. Because MLB decided to put sunscreen on the bad side of the line, something like 80% of guys have some drop in their spin rate, and like a quarter have seen a large drop. This is basically a reverse "rising tides lift all boats" situation. The Cubs having two low pedigree rookies get smoked by this is actually quite lucky. Look at what what happened to the Dodgers: https://twitter.com/No_Little_Plans/status/1409873784811757589?s=19 As A TEAM, they've lost more spin than Keegan Thompson. And beyond them, the league average is down ~50 RPMS. The Cubs, or any team, was never going to get through this unscathed. The key is not having a bunch of guys, or one primo guy like Gerrit Cole, get popped. And I wouldn't worry about the pitch lab moving forward. I mean just since this happened Brad Wieck has come back up since this happened and hasn't yet allowed a run. There's also a couple guys doing monster things at Iowa and Tenn. The reliever pipeline is still strong. They need to figure out how to apply those same principles to starters.