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Well avg with RISP is a fairly standard stat. Is the correlation between that and the avg with no one in scoring position 100% or thereabouts? (all mertics - not just BA)

I've never understood this. There needs to be some context given but dismissing is ridiculous. If a player has come up with 400 players in scoring position and drives in 40. That's terrible. If he has come up with 100 in scoring position and driven in 40 that's pretty good. If you want to say that Bradley's rbi total isn't disapointing then you need to show me that he has had significantly fewer chances to drive in runs than other players. Do that and I'll agree it's not disapointing - (I have no idea what the numbers are) We all know rbi's are heavily influenced by the team - but if you want to outright dismiss some players total of 100 - that's fine if you can demonstrate that he's had a disproportionate number of chances. If that's the case I'll agree 110%. I've never understood why there isn't a "percentage of runners driven in" stat of some kind.

poorly? Well that's just ignorant. I'll rephrase mediocrely? mediocre and poor are not the same thing. so technically you are restating not rephrasing. his career line is solidly above league averages, so poorly doesn't really seem justified. hence the restatement I guess. if you are looking for a power hitting corner outfielder then I guess you could squeeze him in mediocre.

Soriano is a LF and Wells is a CF Wells is a fair bit better defensively, at least by reputation - he's won a couple of Gold Gloves - which I know isn't the be all and end all but I would assume he's not Adam Dunn out there - I also assume he wouldn't still be playing CF if his defense was a question mark. That said I'd consider it at least - Wells is younger and a change of scenery has done wonders for some players - Cobs are stuck between a rock and a hard place right now.

My head just exploded if anyone finds any of the pieces please PM them to me. Thanks in advance.

his picture looks like it is from 1976

Legit, one hopped and hit the wall it looked like Even so why is Fox still in there??? OMG HR!!!!!!!!

Well he scores every time he gets on. Averages more than one stolen base attempt per time he reaches and is succesful at a resonable rate of 75%. Plenty to be excited about there!! I'm gonna pencil him in at 21 on my top 30,

I live in Toronto and I can tell you he's not thought of that way here. He's constantly dogged by fans and media. I think management thought they were getting him just at the right time when in fact he just flatlined...at best.

An .850 OPS and plus defense isn't too shabby. Calling Rios an .850 OPS guy is mighty generous. He's hit that twice in 6 seasons (06 and 07). The other four, he's been .720, .702, .798, and this year .734. See the bolded part in dexter's post. Rios is one of those players you just figure should be better than he is. He's got a ton of tools but, to this point, hasn't been able to harness them. You see the flashes and salivate at what just might be...and then...poof. Here in Toronto he gets ripped for not being focused and for a widely variable intensity level. i.e alot of times he seems just to be going through the motions. Now I certainly don't know if that's actually the case, only a very few could, but I can certainly see where appearances could lead you to that conclusion. He seems to me to be somone that has enough talent that he can get by (again at least so far) but for whatever reason he hasn't been able to put it together for a full season. He might just not be a "baseball player"...ducks and runs for cover. Seriously though he reminds me a little of DLee who never put it all together until that second season with the Cubs. He had flashes, and certainly had some decent seaons but you always figured that more was possible.

I'm not saying this is the case here, but being a selfish jerk and doing good charity work are not mutually exclusive. Oh, and I'd trade Lou + Larry for TLR + DD any day. Agreed. I just thought the discussion deserved a more balanced look at the man. Is he perfect? No. As far as the DUI, yeah, that was a stupid mistake. Glass houses. Can I just hate him because he's managed both the White Sox and the Cards? :D Either/Or is the trigger point here; hating him because he managed both is like arriving at the party after the cops have confiscated the dummy dust and the rent-a-dates.

:rotfl: "Gold Jerry, Gold!" There is some brilliant quip that ties this into Bill Hall's self proclomation as the best 3B in baseball ... but I'm not smart enough to come up with it.

Close enough.

Ran out of the baseline? Nope Batter interference?

Cripes. Dude strikes out a TON though. But still, he could hit 50 this year. That's nuts. I noticed that the other day too. I think he struck over 200 times last year and is on pace to do it again. I assume he has the season record??

I've never seen him play (I'm in Toronto) and won't likely ever see him so that would be cool.

Suppose his name were Tyler Colvin? Other than the lack of power I'm assuming that most (with a little hindsight at this point admittedly) would be pretty happy with Colvin putting up his numbers. I just noticed that physically they are pretty similar and Aducci is just a few months older than Colvin. He's 6'2 so he's got a bit of size so maybe some increase in power is a possability. I always find fringe players like him a little interesting - they quitely put up decent numbers but because of lack of pedigree, a percieved deficincy in some part of their game or just simple circumstance they may never get a shot. But given that shot the could be decent major leaguers - and I'm sure there are hundreds (well maybe dozens) of these guys scattered around the minors. Until Soto had his explosion 2 years ago I would have put him in that catagory, maybe even in Theriot. Maybe Casey Maghee is one of those guys getting a chance this year.

Patterson had some success - a lot of those guys had none - I'm not sure he belongs on this particular list. Was Josh Booty this decade? What about the SS San Diego drafted - Matt Bush?? I just noticed John Ford Griffin on the Iowa roster wasn't he once really highly regarded?

I understand that the four prospects are rated pretty well but shouldn't somebody of Lee's caliber and contract status (especially) net one of the opposing teams top 3 prospects? I mean would Lee for Drabek straight up be a resonable trade? I wouldn't have thought so. Francisco is no star but he has some value. I don't know the Phillies prospects at all but unless whichever of the four is most highly rated (Carasco?) would be the #1 prospect for most other teams I think the Phillies got a bit of a steal. It reminds me of those Braves trades of the early 90's.

Aaron Hill is having the flashier season but I would say Marco Scutaro is the most underrated on that team.

I can. I remember a game against the Cubs, 2 years ago I think, where he cost the Reds three our four runs. He turned the wrong way on a very catchable ball that ended up going for extra bases with runners on; there was another very catchable ball he just didn't get to and there were a couple of other plays - he had a rough day and I don't think he was charged with any errors. Now obviously I don't see all his games so maybe that was his worst game ever - I doubt it - but I don't have a hard time rationalizing him costing his team 35 runs a year.

I'm not saying good Soriano absolutely should hit leadoff. I don't think he should drop below the top three to four hitters, though. In the Cubs' situation, Lee and Aramis were already entrenched in the 3-4 spots, leaving the top 1-2 spots for Soriano. I was fine with him hitting in either of those spots. As for Pujols, I wouldn't necessarily move him there from the #3 spot in the order, but I wouldn't find it outlandish to lead him off. Skip Shumaker played 110 games in the leadoff spot and had 536 PAs. Pujols played 143 games in the 3rd spot and had 636 PAs. Pujols had 100 more PAs in 30 more games. Had Schumaker played as many games as Pujols at the average number of PAs he was getting per game, Schumaker would have had 50 more PAs than Pujols. Not a huge difference, but imagine Pujols getting 50 more PAs a season. Moving Soriano from 1st in the lineup to 5th last year would have decreased his PAs by nearly 100. That's significant. I guess the weight of that argument would depend a little bit on on who got those 100 at bats instead. If they got on base a better clip than Soriano I wouldn't have too much of an issue - factor in more people on base when Soriano did come to bat and its pretty easy to rationalize a net gain. I wouldn't bat him second, and with Lee and Ramirez on the the team (and producing) I couldn't justify him hitting third or fourth - I could see an argument where you would move Lee to 2nd - in which case I would bat him 4th - ultimately I would disagree with the move of Lee but I understand the reasoning. FWIW I would find it outlandish to bat Pujols leadoff

2 for 4 with a BB tonight...he's a lefty... ...just sayin'

I never hear his name mentioned when prospects are mentioned but he seems to put up some quitely decent numbers. He maybe a shade old, but does he have a shot at all? What is his defense like?

I have a relative by marriage whose name is Perry Perry. Undrafted though.