javy knows my name

What school has a red hawk as its mascot other than Miami Ohio?

haha, it would get ugly. Where has DoucheBagman been? (apologize in advance if you guys are offended) Pretty sure he got banned for calling everyone a bunch of sticks. Would you please point me to that thread? That sounds like a whole lot of fun!

There are actually whole articles about that. And they're stupid too.

I don't think Beane would have much say in whether a sequel gets written or not. Of course, I was kidding. Out of curiosity, what about Moneyball do you think set the organization back?

If you keep triple-posting, this thread will catch up in no time

I'm just guessing but it's probably because Ryan Theriot has outperformed Ronny Cedeno at the major league level. Just a guess... If Theriot is just short of terrible, that makes Cedeno what - far short of terrible then? This is not a difficult argument. Ryan Theriot is a below average baseball player - we all know that. However, he is the best shortstop the Cubs have and better than Cedeno. LOL ya, it must mean nothing that Cedeno has outperformed Theriot everywhere else, and at a younger age. Theriot obviously just has what it takes to succeed at the major league level, while Ronny doesn't. Damn all those crazy minor league numbers that say Ronny is far better at baseball. It's a different game in the minors. They're not playing baseball. Or something. You're right, Cedeno has outperformed Theriot in the minor leagues. Unfortunately, the Chicago Cubs play in the major leagues where Cedeno has fell flat on his face. Ryan Theriot has outperformed him in the major leagues - that is a fact and why he's playing over Cedeno. For a board so obsessed with numbers it's comical how some keep overlooking those like they don't exist. I would love to see Ronny hit and play like he did in the minors - the problem is he has not shown that at the major league level and has not shown any signs that will come soon. Theriot has at least had some success in the major leagues - Cedeno can't even claim that. Why do some receivers coming out of college football put up big numbers, get awards, get drafted high while having all the measurables but just don't succeed and are sometimes outperformed by undrafted free agents? I don't know why but I do know it happens. Unless you can pitch as well, you are not a successful major league player if you hit like Ryan Theriot. Instead of reading what you want to enhance your argument I suggest you read what I actually wrote. I said Theriot has at least had SOME success in the major leagues. I did not say he was a successful player - just that he has had some. Big difference. I saw what you wrote. It's just that I don't call hitting out of your mind for four weeks and still finishing the season with terrible numbers SOME success. I saw Ronny Cedeno hit a double once in a major league uniform. I guess he's had SOME success, too.

don't tell that to crazy illini fans, they'll think you're a ku alum. i said this exact same thing on the scout board, along with my reasoning (ie: ku being a top 5 program nationally, and one could argue, the most prestigious job in college basketball seeing as how the guy who invented the game used to occupy the position), and some guy said i was a delusional ku alum, i swear. so, i guess that 1. stating that self is not going to abandon ku, and 2. stating that ku is a top collegiate program makes me not only delusional, but a ku alum. this is why people hate UI fans on the internet, most of them are too young to drive or are too old to go to the bathroom by themselves. i wish we could just stop the hate. self is not going to leave kansas, kansas is not illinois and osu is not kansas, get over it. Aren't you thinking of Rupp at Kentucky?

I'm just guessing but it's probably because Ryan Theriot has outperformed Ronny Cedeno at the major league level. Just a guess... If Theriot is just short of terrible, that makes Cedeno what - far short of terrible then? This is not a difficult argument. Ryan Theriot is a below average baseball player - we all know that. However, he is the best shortstop the Cubs have and better than Cedeno. LOL ya, it must mean nothing that Cedeno has outperformed Theriot everywhere else, and at a younger age. Theriot obviously just has what it takes to succeed at the major league level, while Ronny doesn't. Damn all those crazy minor league numbers that say Ronny is far better at baseball. It's a different game in the minors. They're not playing baseball. Or something. You're right, Cedeno has outperformed Theriot in the minor leagues. Unfortunately, the Chicago Cubs play in the major leagues where Cedeno has fell flat on his face. Ryan Theriot has outperformed him in the major leagues - that is a fact and why he's playing over Cedeno. For a board so obsessed with numbers it's comical how some keep overlooking those like they don't exist. I would love to see Ronny hit and play like he did in the minors - the problem is he has not shown that at the major league level and has not shown any signs that will come soon. Theriot has at least had some success in the major leagues - Cedeno can't even claim that. Why do some receivers coming out of college football put up big numbers, get awards, get drafted high while having all the measurables but just don't succeed and are sometimes outperformed by undrafted free agents? I don't know why but I do know it happens. Unless you can pitch as well, you are not a successful major league player if you hit like Ryan Theriot.

Thank you. OBP is no longer undervalued, people. Beane will find something else that is overlooked by the majority and then someone will write Moneyball II and expose that attribute and the cycle will continue.

no, he really isn't Agreed, Cedeno is better and so would moving DeRosa to short and starting E-Patt at 2B. He's only the best realistic option because our organization lacks any creative ability whatsoever. Jim is a moron, and Lou is just a silly old man. ! My thoughts exactly!

why is Soto batting 8th? He's actually batting ninth. The pitcher would bat leadoff. Kind of reverse logic of the second leadoff guy Milwaukee employs. Oh my God, to hear Bill Shroeder explain the merits of that strategy had me rolling on the floor

Can you make these a little bigger?

Ugh Brewers take the sweep and I never hear the end of it up here

Suppan throwin cheese to the tune of 86 today

Suppan's scurred of KOSUKE FUKUDOME

LOVE seeing that 1.000 BA next to Kosuke's name

Was that a curve or a change that got Hart?

Bill Hall pops out to (God)

God I hate Bill Hall. And Ryan Braun. And Corey Hart. And Prince Fielder. And Ricky Weeks. Ugh.

Good location on that pitch

Yeah Derrek way to start us off

I see what you did there. And it was a 4-3, how fitting

Not one of those pitches were close to the plate per gameday

wtf T-Lills

We really don't need another lefty CF who can't hit lefty pitching