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I think 6/$130 or so gives him about Dansby's AAV. Dansby was coming off a 6.4 fWAR season, and Hoerner has never cracked 5, but Hoerner's last four years have all been better than any other Braves year for Dansby. Plus generally contract values only go up, 2022 Dansby going into this offseason gets a lot more than what he got from us.

Nico Hoerner has been the 22nd best offensive player in baseball over the last 3 years. Better than Semien, Elly, Adames, Chapman, Bregman, Harper just from looking in slots 23-30. 21st over the last two years, 20th best this year. Offering him $14m a year is an insult.

There's roughly a $75m difference between the luxury tax number that FG has for 2025 ($220m) and what they have for currently rostered players under contract for 2026 ($147m). A bench outfielder would presumably not be one of any consequence, with Happ, PCA, Suzuki, Caissie, and Alcantara all already here. A depth starter is....$15m? The bullpen cost roughly $25m-$30m this year. You really foresee another $30m or so drop in total spend?

Just foul pop outs and Ks

Andrew Vaughn also a gold glover now, nice

We’re allowed to get out of situations like that without giving up runs?

horsefeathers Joey Ortiz continuing the inning

2-3-4 facing Mis for the second time seems pretty crucial. Uribe and Megill aren’t Miller and Suarez but they’re still good.

He tried

Chet Holmgrem before puberty ass

The three headed monster guy and this postage stamp of a strike zone seems like a bad combination for the brewers. Ideally if the cubs fans can get into his head a little bit.

I like to think I’m a pretty levelheaded cubs fan but I know in my heart that Josh Ortiz and his 384 OPS absolutely converts if he’s in Nico’s spot there.

I had that thought too but assume it’s more valuable to keep the platoon advantage for the next AB

High strike is not there at all.

Oh so some of you nerds are waving off a 28 PA sample size but now want to point to a 1 PA sample size huh???

He’s literally never been good against lefties besides this invented 28 PA sample size. It’s not a ‘bad stretch’

Seriously how the horsefeathers do they do this

Honestly, hat tip to Busch. We probably don’t get Suzuki and Hoerner v a LHP if they weren’t clearly worried about Busch.

It feels stupid to bring up Zips on October 6th, but going into the year, with a healthy Steele, Zips had us as the 9th ranked offense and the 18th ranked pitching team (17th for SP, 21st for relievers) in baseball. There was one obvious position on the offensive side to upgrade, we made some sort of attempt to get Bregman, we didn't get him, and we did basically nothing else with the money (Flexen and Turner technically signed after Bregman, but....yeah.) The list of pitchers who signed after the Bregman deal is admittedly not impressive, basically just Quintana and Patrick Corbin, but A. it was clear we needed at the very least innings, if not talent, and B. it's Jed's job not to be left with a pile of money and a weakness he was almost certainly aware of. This is probably an unnecessary shot, but it's almost like he got high on his own supply with the (both objectively good) Swanson and Bellinger contracts, waiting out the market and getting a good player for less than he maybe would have cost otherwise. But he didn't make enough improvements in the offseason, and he certainly didn't make enough improvements at the trade deadline. (I'm also aware that if you would have asked me about this topic in July I would have said that upgrading from Colin Rea to Shane Bieber or Zac Gallen would have improved our WS odds from like 6% to 8% so who cares and I'm in about as close to meatball mode as I'm going to be. But I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.)

All fair, and really chose to respond to you specifically because I figured I’d get a fair response. My point was more that a well run organization shouldn’t A. Leave $20m-$30m on the table and pretend like it was earmarked for midseason acquisitions in an era where 20-25 teams are going to be in contention in July, and B. Not worry about an alcantara or Triantos or even a Wiggins being an overpay in a very clear playoff year where there was very obviously a weak spot. Just develop another one, or (conspiracy theory) game the system like I have the suspicion the dodgers do so that it seems like you’ve developed another one.

Yeah but I think you're being a little unfair in a couple places. One, making the comparison to Wiggins multiple times, who is ranked higher than Stephan in the highest Stephan ranking, and also looked at around here as the next Horton. And two, calling it seven starts, because he's making an EXTREMELY important 8th start in a couple days here.

I think I'm mostly just talking to myself here as a guy who has been accused of being a Jed/front office apologist. We ended the offseason with a big hypothetical pile of unspent cash and myself and others were like 'it's fine, we should be good enough to win high 80s-90 games (which at the time, seemed more than enough to carry the division)....let's keep the powder dry for the midseason acquisitions that are definitely coming'. And then July came and went and it was like 'well, that would have been stupid to make a meaningful acquisition'. And here we are, at least a starter short, probably more, with that pile of cash sitting safely in Tom's bank account.

I'm so torn on this because it feels like we're, again, letting Jed off the hook here. I know Jaxon Wiggins is the hot pitching name at a time where we are, as we are currently discussing, very short on pitching. But like...just using the FG list, which is making the price paid seem as high as possible.....would anyone be that upset right now about Alcantara (30ish slots higher) having gotten moved for Bieber? Which would be even more of an overpay. Should I be? Maybe, almost certainly on a aggregate WAR or WAR/dollar basis. But man, I have to tune in tonight and hope that they pick the right time to turn to Colin Rea before Shota gives up a dong when we are 11 wins away from a World Series. And that sucks.

He gets noticeably better results with guys on base than he does with the bases empty. If he's capable of those kind of results, why doesn't he get them when there are no guys on base?